Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[suckmymuscle]

you are saying that all these pics showing loose hanging skin are 'nonsense"?

WTF?

 

WHAT IS IT THEN?

  Hulkster, even if you're depleted and at 3% bodyfat, the skin can fold. It's a flexible tissue. There is no loose skin there; there's folded skin as a reusult of the pressure exerted by muscular contraction.

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[NeoSeminole]

Hulkster, even if you're depleted and at 3% bodyfat, the skin can fold. It's a flexible tissue. There is no loose skin there; there's folded skin as a reusult of the pressure exerted by muscular contraction.

hey idiot, respond to my post before you think about replying to others.

[NarcissisticDeity]

  Hulkster, even if you're depleted and at 3% bodyfat, the skin can fold. It's a flexible tissue. There is no loose skin there; there's folded skin as a reusult of the pressure exerted by muscular contraction.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

The irony is how can he possibly have loose skin in his lower lats and lower back and yet in a pose that highlights lower lat and lower back detail it be 100% tight ! its impossible.

[suckmymuscle]

hey idiot, respond to my post before you think about replying to others.

  I will reply in the order I want to, and you will wait in line. By the way, I have beaten you so badly in the last few weeks that to be honest I lost all interest in you. I rank you now together with Pumpster in this debate. In any case, I will go back, search your reply and see what strawman you came up with this time. Is Dorian's grain now the result of micoses? Or maybe he just painted little white dots all over his skin to make himself look grainy? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

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[NeoSeminole]

I will reply in the order I want to, and you will wait in line. By the way, I have beaten you so badly in the last few weeks that to be honest I lost all interest in you. I rank you now together with Pumpster in this debate. In any case, I will go back, search your reply and see what strawman you came up with this time. Is Dorian's grain now the result of micoses? Or maybe he just painted little white dots all over his skin to make himself look grainy? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

bwahahahaha, you are so full of shit. You just lie and make up facts. Then you say that you "owned" me.

[suckmymuscle]

The irony is how can he possibly have loose skin in his lower lats and lower back and yet in a pose that highlights lower lat and lower back detail it be 100% tight ! its impossible.

  If you create a robot covered with human skin and make him flex, the areas where the pressure is exerted will have folded skin there. Even if the robot is pure metal covered in human skin, the skin will fold. Is it evidence of subcutaneous bodyfat or water? No.

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[suckmymuscle]

bwahahahaha, you are so full of shit. You just lie and make up facts. Then you say that you "owned" me.

  Like you made up that grain is the result of acne, when there's a ton of bodybuilders who have stepped onstage covered in acne and none has ever been refered to as grainy? And how you made up that grain shows more when one has low bodyfat and water levels, when in reality a skinny guy covered in acne looks no grainier than a fat one who's also covered in acne? No, you take the prize for making stuff up with no evidence to back it up.

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[NeoSeminole]

If you create a robot covered with human skin and make him flex, the areas where the pressure is exerted will have folded skin there. Even if the robot is pure metal covered in human skin, the skin will fold. Is it evidence of subcutaneous bodyfat or water? No.

no one said Dorian is carrying extra body fat or water in his lower back, you dumbass. It's loose skin.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no one said Dorian is carrying extra body fat or water in his lower back, you dumbass. It's loose skin.

WRONG these idiots are claiming loose skin is water & fat ! and Dorian has it in his lower lats , lower back and both triceps !

[NeoSeminole]

Like you made up that grain is the result of acne, when there's a ton of bodybuilders who have stepped onstage covered in acne and none has ever been refered to as grainy? And how you made up that grain shows more when one has low bodyfat and water levels, when in reality a skinny guy covered in acne looks no grainier than a fat one who's also covered in acne? No, you take the prize for making stuff up with no evidence to back it up.

I didn't make anything up. You claim that Dorian has a "grainy" appearance. I don't see how b/c he looks like he was rolled from a batch of dough. I'm postulating possible reasons why you might be confused and think he looks grainy.

[NeoSeminole]

WRONG these idiots are claiming loose skin is water & fat ! and Dorian has it in his lower lats , lower back and both triceps!

where? Show me.

[suckmymuscle]

no one said Dorian is carrying extra body fat or water in his lower back, you dumbass. It's loose skin.

  Loose skin is only apparent if you have fat and water in abundance; therefore, my intellectual inferior, Dorian's skin is not loose, but folded. Skin olds when you exert pressure against it. Even at 0% bodyfat, it folds if you bend it. And by the way, imbecile, they did say that Dorian had fat and water in excess.

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[Parker]

1064 pages, and now the argument goes to skin folds.

iI wonder what is next, Toe Jam, whose toes were the cleanest on stage, Dorian or Ronnie?

[suckmymuscle]

I didn't make anything up. You claim that Dorian has a "grainy" appearance. I don't see how b/c he looks like he was rolled from a batch of dough. I'm postulating possible reasons why you might be confused and think he looks grainy.

  The really funny thing is that I have already proved to you through several examples why you're wrong, and yet you continue to insist with this shit. Dorian was at his grainiest at the 1995 Olympia, and he had no acne in his body. There are tons of bodybuilders who have competed with more acne in their bodies than Dorian, and none of them were ever refered to as "grainy". Besides, Dorian was grainy in his entire body, which means that it couldn't be caused by acne because the distribution of acne is not symmetrical.

  There are so many reasons why you're wrong, and yet you remain adamant that it is the result of acne. You even made a retarded assertion that acne somehow makes one grainier when there is less fat and water, when I have already demonstrated to you, through example, that this is impossible. Try to understand this: Dorian's grain is the result of his extremely low fat and water levels, plus genetics.

  Some bodybuilders would show more separations at that bodyfat and water levels, while Doria shows his superb coditioning more through a hange in skin texture. This is obvious. Dorian didn't have as much separatios as a Wheeler even when he was in better conditioning. Why? Because his conditioning was expressed as a change in skin texture rather than just separations. Learn your lesson.

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[NeoSeminole]

The really funny thing is that I have already proved to you through several examples why you're wrong, and yet you continue to insist with this shit. Dorian was at his grainiest at the 1995 Olympia, and he had no acne in his body. There are tons of bodybuilders who have competed with more acne in their bodies than Dorian, and none of them were ever refered to as "grainy". Besides, Dorian was grainy in his entire body, which means that it couldn't be caused by acne because the distribution of acne is not symmetrical.

There are so many reasons why you're wrong, and yet you remain adamant that it is the result of acne. You even made a retarded assertion that acne somehow makes one grainier when there is less fat and water, when I have already demonstrated to you, through example, that this is impossible. Try to understand this: Dorian's grain is the result of his extremely low fat and water levels, plus genetics.

Some bodybuilders would show more separations at that bodyfat and water levels, while Doria shows his superb coditioning more through a hange in skin texture. This is obvious. Dorian didn't have as much separatios as a Wheeler even when he was in better conditioning. Why? Because his conditioning was expressed as a change in skin texture rather than just separations. Learn your lesson.

yawn, arguing with you is a waste of time b/c you are clearly a retard who thinks he's smart. I'm just entertaining your nonsense that Dorian had a grainy appearance. To me, he looks very smooth and puffy.

[NarcissisticDeity]

where? Show me.

Shown 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shown ( again ) 

and they're all wrong period , yes Dorian has wrinkles in his skin in that pose , yes he has wrinkles in his triceps in that pose , and NO he's NOT holding water NO he's NOT holding any subcutaneous fat .

[Necrosis]

Shown ( again ) 

and they're all wrong period , yes Dorian has wrinkles in his skin in that pose , yes he has wrinkles in his triceps in that pose , and NO he's NOT holding water NO he's NOT holding any subcutaneous fat .

either way it is still a negative. it could be water, could be fat, but it is loose skin. loose sking isnt just fat or water. take craig titus for example with his loose skin on his pecs, he had to have surgery to correct it.

regardless of what it is you admit that he has "wrinkles".


either way it is a negative, loose skin or "wrinkles" detract from the pose greatly. like titus's saggy tit line, to which he went to the extent of having surgery. dorian was no where near this level, but he still has "wrinkles" which are  a negative anyway you slice it.


sucky how come ronnie doesnt have loose skin in that pose. its not universal obviously, and also not desirable. in fact it is a negative. would you agree?

[NarcissisticDeity]

either way it is still a negative. it could be water, could be fat, but it is loose skin. loose sking isnt just fat or water. take craig titus for example with his loose skin on his pecs, he had to have surgery to correct it.

regardless of what it is you admit that he has "wrinkles".


either way it is a negative, loose skin or "wrinkles" detract from the pose greatly. like titus's saggy tit line, to which he went to the extent of having surgery. dorian was no where near this level, but he still has "wrinkles" which are  a negative anyway you slice it.


sucky how come ronnie doesnt have loose skin in that pose. its not universal obviously, and also not desirable. in fact it is a negative. would you agree?

You flip flop on your statements , you have trouble keeping track of your own argument or mine , you're ignorant I mean you just are , lets entertaong your insanity for a moment that it is a ' negative ' and would detract from his pose ' greatly ' how the hell do you explain Dorian receiving straight firsts in every single pre-judging of every single one of his Mr Olympia wins? I'll tell you how its NOT water , loose skin , fat or anything other than wrinkles in the skin , its NOT a ' negative ' obviously what it is , is a pathetic attempt to try and knock down Dorian's outstanding conditioning and it failed

[Iceman1981]

Blah Blah blah = I have no fucking clue how to retort because I'm dead fucking wrong , you see what you want to see and again his skin absolutely CAN NOT be loose and tight at the same time its an oxymoron , and once again for the slow ( you ) if he had water/fat loose skin it would obscure his lowerlats & x-mass tree and its clearly not your assessment is addressed , corrected and dismissed , please go back to the drawing board and create new flaws because this one is garbage 

oxymoron , he can't be both tight and loose .

LOL, look who's giving reading advice. You just typed all of that nonsense after seeing this pic. You're clueless.

[monstermunch]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuck this shit is still going on....

Surly you have covered every angle possible and have come to some fair conclusion? 

[Iceman1981]

Hey moron we're talking about loose skin that would be clearly evident in a pose that highlights his lower back crispness he absolutely CAN NOT has loose skin fat/water in his lower back in one pose and have it extremely tight in the next its impossible and a oxymoron , if he had loose hanging skin in his lower back it would be even more clearly evident in the crunch pose and its not I.E. he has NO loose skin , no water and no fat , learn what this means before you type because I will singlehandedly crush your ignorance.

Well, this pic you have posted many times single handedly crushes your ignorance. The pic says it all.

He has no loose skin? Yeah, and pigs can fly.

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL, look who's giving reading advice. You just typed all of that nonsense after seeing this pic. You're clueless.

No in fact I'm not clueless , I'm not the one claiming an oxymoron  I'm not claiming he has loose skin , fat and water in his lower lats and lower back that magically tightens up in moments lol you really , really played yourself with this comment and the sheep who followed you did as well !

skin can't be both ' loose ' and tight thats an oxymoron .

[NarcissisticDeity]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this shit is still going on....

Surly you have covered every angle possible and have come to some fair conclusion? 

No they're making up new angles as we go along lol

[Iceman1981]

Yawn another ignorant assessment he's just as ripped in 1993 as he was in 1993 and he was 15 pounds heavier ,

LOL. And you're giving advice on the english language?