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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26475 on: March 13, 2007, 07:53:37 PM »
iceman,





notice the xmas tree.

its not loose skin if you are not flexing.  (dorian does not flex his xmas tree in the lat spread)

why dont you just take a picture of someone asleep and then site how soft and loose they are?

Well, who the fuck told yates not to flex his lower lats and lower back in the raear latspread? That's his problem and it shows his flaws. Bodybuilders aren't supposed to have any loose skin hanging from anywhere on their body. By having sagging skin, causes him to clearly lose the rear latspread against Coleman.

Again, yates is doing a rear latspread and still shows major loose skin. Do you consider hitting the rearlatspread as being "asleep"? You guys know he has loose skin hanging, but don't want to admit it. Be a man and actually admit when  you guys are wrong. Nice try, but try to come up with a better reply, lol.

Pics don't lie. By the way, you guys are hiding from the rearlatspread pics. I'll help you guys out:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26476 on: March 13, 2007, 07:55:21 PM »
Speaking of the front double biceps, here is an example of a perfect one, that smokes ANY version of Ronnie ;)

LOL, get out of here with that bull

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26477 on: March 13, 2007, 08:01:48 PM »
wtf are you talking about? Ronnie had striated triceps in:

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they were striated in later years.



Coleman's side tri looks pretty good here

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26478 on: March 13, 2007, 08:06:59 PM »
LOL, get out of here with that bull

What the fuck?

Now you are using pixelated, poor quality Yates photo against a black and white enhanced Coleman photo :-\

Sorry, but eventhough Ronnie's front double bi looked good at 244lbs, Dorian dwarfs him.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26479 on: March 13, 2007, 08:38:59 PM »

Still obsessed with me ?  LOL!!!!!

How many muscles have you gained since we talked last time skinny bitch ?

I have the answer, a Big 0 like it should be for a skinny internet bodybuilder  8)


THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT.

how is it that you call people an "internet fan boy" yet you mysteriously show up when your name is mentioned ONCE in a reply with 1000 letters??????

internet fan boy?  why dont you just call us bucktooth jackasses?

last time you were on here, you got owned, and called out myself, sucky, nd, etc.

if we are so skinny, then post some pictures of yourself so we can see what a real bodybuilder looks like?

last time you were asked to do that, but you bitched out?

are you going to bitch out this time AGAIN?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26480 on: March 13, 2007, 08:39:56 PM »
listen to yourself, you idiot. You claim that I purposely ignore certain parts of your posts yet you mention in the same sentence that I replied to them. Make up your mind.

  You remain very quiet when I own you, sport. I have even gotten a confession from you that I'm right about something and you were wrong. When did I say that you were right about somethig you wrote? That's right: never. ;)

  I make you shut up, and the only reason why you keep responding is to save face and not have to admit that you're wrong. Then you demand me to respond to your posts that I have already responded before, and when I ignore you claim that I remained silent because you somehow owned me.

  Some of the things I proved you wrong conlusively:

  - Separations are partially genetic.

  - Ronnie carried more mass at the 1999 Olympia than he did at the 2001 ASC.

 - The 1995 Dorian Yates carried more mass than the 2001 ASC Ronnie.

 - McGough's opinion about Ronnie's 2001 ASC coditioning is nullified by the fact that he said in 2006 that no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as Dorian.

 - Separations is only one of the things that indicate conditioning, and the most separated bodybuilder is not necessarily the most conditioned.

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not really. My argument is assuming there is such a thing as looking "grainy." I don't believe there is. Where exactly do you see this "grain" on Dorian? His arms, delts, pecs, quads and glutes all look smooth to me. This is the opposite of what you claim - he's covered everywhere in bumps. I'm just entertaining your nonsense. If you make such retarded statements, then don't be surprised if you get a retarded response. ;)

  Dorian looks grainy because his skin looks dry and, and it has nothing to do with acne. I have already explained that when some bodybuilders show more separations when they drop fat and water, while others show their extremely low fat and water by a chage in skin texture. This is obvious to the eyes. Dorian was never the king of separations, even when he was supremely conditioned, and yet no one would deny that he shows an incredibly hard appearance. Dorian never required acne to look grainy: at the 1995 Olympia he was acne-free, and he he was at his grainiest.

  And the really sad thing is that you owned yourself when you claimed that ace produces more grain when the individual is low in fat and water. You obviously implied that grain is at least partially the result of low fat and water. When I challeged you to explain why acne by itself cannot make one look hard like Yates, you were dumbfounded by it and couldn't explain it. Losing either fat or water, by itself, will make you look more like a contest-ready Dorian, but having acne won't.

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bullshit, Branch Warren has the same "look" as Dorian. How do you determine grainyness then?

  Because you say so? First of all, Warren is supremely conditioned, thus you're implying that Dorian's contest-ready physique was the result of low fat and water levels. Secodly, Warren looks nothing like Dorian - except for the fact that, together with Badell, he is currently the most well-conditioned bodybuilder out there.

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 completely irrelevant. If I challenged you to a 100 meter race and then you challenged me to a marathon, then I'm not the one trying to weasel my way out of the situation. I had no intentions of entering an online bodybuilding competition to begin with. I'm simply asking you to throw up a pic of yourself from your prime to compare with me at 21 yrs old. It only takes you a few seconds to look for a pic. Conversely, it would take me several months to get in shape for a bodybuilding contest.

  Bullshit. You are afraid of me, and you should as well be. ;) What's the point of posting a pic that won't be judged? I responded to your challenge by calling you out to post pics at a contest where they will actually be judged. Claiming unfairness is non-sensical, because you'd have the same time to prepare that I would. Ordinarily, you would be entitled to decline my challenge without losing face, but not in this case, because the first challenge came from you.

  I know what the problem is: you are a nerd living your life on the internet. I obviously hurt your feelings when I pointed out that you spend all Saturdays logged in to Getbig. I know exactly how to manipulate you; you are a puppet on a string to me. ;) It's not my fault that you're shy and socially inept. This is why you're rejected by the normal Society of people, and log in every weekend to try and make friends here. I make you meltdown all the time, to the point where you report me to moderators, quote posts from others at different threads where I'm posting - which have nothing to do with this topic - and write "owned", even when I'm not even arguing with the poster in question, and stalk me around other threads demanding that I reply to you. It's quite sad, really, and you obviously give more importance to my posts than I do to yours. ;)

  Here is a pic of Dorian at his grainiest. And guess what? No acne! ;) This is what I mean by "grain": a change in skin texture that some bodybuilders display when they're low in fat and water, which is completely uncorrelated with acne. Remove the acne from the 1993 Dorian - the only year when he had acne, and he still looks grainy; cover the 1999 or 2001 ASC Ronnie with acne, and he still doesen't look grainy. By the way, Coleman is clearly off, and yet his delt tie-ins are still as separated as Dorian's, thus indicating that separations are partially genetic, and that the most conditioned bodybuilder is not necessarily the most separated. Owned 8).

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26481 on: March 13, 2007, 08:44:29 PM »
says the spooge licker who is known for his retarded comments. ::)
author=suckmymuscle link=topic=69359.msg1796102#msg1796102 date=1171084762]What separated Dorian from the other competitors was that he had hardcore muscle.


  You obviously read all of my posts very carefully. And the pathetic part is that, unlike what you claim, several of these quotes are from posts where I wasn't addressing you. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26482 on: March 13, 2007, 08:45:56 PM »
Sorry, but eventhough Ronnie's front double bi looked good at 244lbs, Dorian dwarfs him.

ha ha ha ha, you are by far the dumbest poster in this thread. Even neutral members have commented on your stupidity. Ronnie at the 01 ASC was 247 lbs - NOT 244 lbs. Also, Dorian doesn't dwarf Ronnie. The reason you keep posting a shot of Dorian by himself is b/c you fear a side-by-side comparison. ;)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26483 on: March 13, 2007, 09:04:31 PM »
ha ha ha ha, you are by far the dumbest poster in this thread. Even neutral members have commented on your stupidity. Ronnie at the 01 ASC was 247 lbs - NOT 244 lbs. Also, Dorian doesn't dwarf Ronnie. The reason you keep posting a shot of Dorian by himself is b/c you fear a side-by-side comparison. ;)



This coming from an illegal immigrant that claimed that the 01ASC Ronnie carried more mass than the 95 Yates ha ha ha ha ha

Here is NeoSemen's driver's license:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26484 on: March 13, 2007, 09:26:32 PM »
You remain very quiet when I own you, sport. I have even gotten a confession from you that I'm right about something and you were wrong. When did I say that you were right about somethig you wrote? That's right: never.

I don't really give a shit if you never said I was right. No matter how severely you get owned, your over-inflated ego won't let you admit you are wrong. Here are a few things I was right about off the top of my head:

- rhomboids (I was the first one who called you out)
- Ronnie's arms were more than 2" bigger than Dorian's
- Ronnie's brachialis aren't poor
- you lying and denying it
- Ronnie has better taper than Flex

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Some of the things I proved you wrong conlusively:

- Separations are partially genetic.

sorry, but you never proved anything. I actually supported my argument with sound theory while your argument basically amounted to "nah uh." ::)

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- Ronnie carried more mass at the 1999 Olympia than he did at the 2001 ASC.

I already said you are probably right.

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- The 1995 Dorian Yates carried more mass than the 2001 ASC Ronnie.

You're such a lying douche. I never said 01 ASC Ronnie carried more mass than 95 Dorian.

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- McGough's opinion about Ronnie's 2001 ASC coditioning is nullified by the fact that he said in 2006 that no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as Dorian.

post both quotes b/c I have no f*cking clue what you are talking about.

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- Separations is only one of the things that indicate conditioning, and the most separated bodybuilder is not necessarily the most conditioned.

Once again you are so pathetic that you have to make up shit to argue with me. I said that conditioning is determined by looking at separations and striations. Human anatomy and physiology are the same from person to person. It makes no sense that one person becomes defined while another gets bumps all over his skin when they shed body fat and water.

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Dorian looks grainy because his skin looks dry and, and it has nothing to do with acne. I have already explained that when some bodybuilders show more separations when they drop fat and water, while others show their extremely low fat and water by a chage in skin texture. This is obvious to the eyes. Dorian was never the king of separations, even when he was supremely conditioned, and yet no one would deny that he shows an incredibly hard appearance. Dorian never required acne to look grainy: at the 1995 Olympia he was acne-free, and he he was at his grainiest.

how do you define "grainyness" then? If the only requisite is the skin must look dry, then Ronnie is grainy too.

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Because you say so? First of all, Warren is supremely conditioned, thus you're implying that Dorian's contest-ready physique was the result of low fat and water levels. Secodly, Warren looks nothing like Dorian - except for the fact that, together with Badell, he is currently the most well-conditioned bodybuilder out there.

don't just take my word. I've heard several people remark that Branch looks grainy.

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Bullshit. You are afraid of me, and you should as well be. What's the point of posting a pic that won't be judged? I responded to your challenge by calling you out to post pics at a contest where they will actually be judged. Claiming unfairness is non-sensical, because you'd have the same time to prepare that I would. Ordinarily, you would be entitled to decline my challenge without losing face, but not in this case, because the first challenge came from you.

bwahahahahaha, by all means please enlighten us why I'm afraid of you. It can't be b/c of your intelligence. You've been owned numerous times on matters of science and philosophy. It can't be b/c of your physique. You're too scared to throw up a pic of you from your prime to compare with a 21 yr old. It can't be b/c of your popularity on Getbig. Nobody likes you. So what exactly am I afraid of?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26485 on: March 13, 2007, 09:28:17 PM »
This coming from an illegal immigrant that claimed that the 01ASC Ronnie carried more mass than the 95 Yates ha ha ha ha ha

I was born in the US, dumbass, and I never claimed that 01 ASC Ronnie carried more mass than 95 Dorian.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26486 on: March 13, 2007, 09:32:38 PM »

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« Reply #26487 on: March 13, 2007, 09:35:19 PM »
hey Suckmyasshole, how is your sobriety coming along? You never did say.

Suckmymuscle,how are ya doing with the whole sobriety thing?Good I hope.

I heard his liver is suing him for damages.

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« Reply #26488 on: March 13, 2007, 09:37:25 PM »
oh man, I laughed out loud at this one.

Did I say they were standard-bearers, you moron? No. I said these were the bodybuilders who had the most innate genetic potential or bodybuilding, exemplified by having a perect skeletal frame and long muscle bellies.

I think you're just upset about how badly I owned you at the Hugo Chavez thread on the general topics boards. What a waste of time you are or me. Loser.

Dude, I don't know if this was addressed to me but I WAS REFERRING TO PUMPSTER YOU ROTTEN TOOTH ENGLISH FUCKWIT! You haven't owned anybody on GetBig so get over yourself. What happens is you get hammered and then disapear for a month and then work up your courage to post again so shut the fuck up retard.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26489 on: March 14, 2007, 01:00:35 AM »
LOL dorian getting killed again and Pubic tries to say that the dorian pic is of 'pixilated quality' (which apparently will make his arms 10x better if it wasn't ::)) and that the Ronnie pic is now 'enhanced' ::)

Pubic is truy the dumbest poster on getbig.

and he is a demonstrated troll to boot.

Here is a guy who argued for hundreds of pages that Ronnie 99 was the greatest ever, now he is using the same pics to all of a sudden say how bad he was... ::)

maybe he has two personalities? dumb and stupid...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26490 on: March 14, 2007, 10:06:29 AM »
Hulkster, Ronnie never had a front double bi this good for the reasons I already pointed out as severe flaws on Coleman:

A) Gyno
B) Pancake chest
C) No Calves
D) Weak/non existant sartorius development
E) Alien Abs
F) Smooth condition (compared to Diesel)

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« Reply #26491 on: March 14, 2007, 10:09:28 AM »
Hulkster, Ronnie never had a front double bi this good for the reasons I already pointed out as severe flaws on Coleman:

yawn, Dorian looks unbeatable until you put him next to Ronnie. Suddenly all of Dorian's advantages fade away.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26492 on: March 14, 2007, 10:14:11 AM »
yawn, Dorian looks unbeatable until you put him next to Ronnie. Suddenly all of Dorian's advantages fade away.




you mean like better structure, better conditioning, and density.

 ::)


the only thing ronnie has in the post on dorian is his arms and quad size.


however, that actually hurts ronnie bc his calves are 15 inches.


ronnie's chest has gyno and he has a lousy four pack.

what else is there? 

nothing. 

yates has a better chest, forearms, leg balance, and the entire midsection.  not to mention the edge in conditioning. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26493 on: March 14, 2007, 10:18:14 AM »
"Dorian was the last Mr. Olympia that strived for proportioned development."

This was a great quote from IronAge Forums.......

As well, the IronAge poll easily chose Yates as superior to Coleman.

The GetBig poll on the other hand is not viable becuase the majority of posters on GetBig are ignorant, gimmick accounts, or have never even seen a picture of Yates becuase he retired over a decade ago.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26494 on: March 14, 2007, 10:21:20 AM »
What the fuck?

Now you are using pixelated, poor quality Yates photo against a black and white enhanced Coleman photo :-\

Sorry, but eventhough Ronnie's front double bi looked good at 244lbs, Dorian dwarfs him.



LOL, pixelated? If it makes you feel beter I'll use the pic you posted. It doesn't really matter with the pic you posted. yates still gets crushed:

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« Reply #26495 on: March 14, 2007, 11:00:45 AM »
you mean like better structure, better conditioning, and density. the only thing ronnie has in the post on dorian is his arms and quad size. however, that actually hurts ronnie bc his calves are 15 inches. ronnie's chest has gyno and he has a lousy four pack. what else is there? nothing. yates has a better chest, forearms, leg balance, and the entire midsection.  not to mention the edge in conditioning.

alright, I will explain in detailed fashion why Ronnie beats Dorian in that comparison.

Pecs

Ronnie demonstrates better shape, definition, and balance. Ronnie's pecs extend much lower, comprising almost half of his torso while Dorian's only makes up about 1/3. Similar to how lower originating lats are more advantageous, a longer chest is more impressive (e.g. Arnold vs. Lee Priest). Ronnie also has superior definition in his pecs. You can see the split down the middle and between upper and lower halves more clearly. Furthermore, Ronnie's pecs are more balanced from top to bottom. The lower half doesn't overpower the upper half in thickness like Dorian's.

Arms

Ronnie has superior muscularity, definition, and shape. Need I say more?

Taper

Ronnie has equal lat width and a much narrower midsection. The result is a visually more dramatic taper. Even if Ronnie is 10 lbs lighter here, his better structure creates the illusion of carrying as much weight as Dorian.

Midsection

Although Ronnie's abs certainly aren't pretty, they are more etched and symmetrical than Dorian's. Ronnie also has a hint of striations in his obliques which Dorian lacks. Now couple Ronnie's aforementioned strengths with a narrower waist, and it becomes apparent why Ronnie's midsection beats Dorian's in this pose (note: I'm only referring to the front double biceps).

Legs

Ronnie's quads have superior muscular bulk, definition, shape, and fullness. His rectus femoris are more separated, and his outer quads have more sweep to them. Even though Dorian's legs are more balanced, Ronnie's combination of muscularity, detail and shape overwhelm them.

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« Reply #26496 on: March 14, 2007, 11:09:22 AM »
alright, I will explain in detailed fashion why Ronnie beats Dorian in that comparison.

Pecs

Ronnie demonstrates better shape, definition, and balance. Ronnie's pecs extend much lower, comprising almost half of his torso while Dorian's only makes up about 1/3. Similar to how lower originating lats are more advantageous, a longer chest is more impressive (e.g. Arnold vs. Lee Priest). Ronnie also has superior definition in his pecs. You can see the split down the middle and between upper and lower halves more clearly. Furthermore, Ronnie's pecs are more balanced from top to bottom. The lower half doesn't overpower the upper half in thickness like Dorian's.

Arms

Ronnie has superior muscularity, definition, and shape. Need I say more?

Taper

Ronnie has equal lat width and a much narrower midsection. The result is a visually more dramatic taper. Even if Ronnie is 10 lbs lighter here, his better structure creates the illusion of carrying as much weight as Dorian.

Midsection

Although Ronnie's abs certainly aren't pretty, they are more etched and symmetrical than Dorian's. Ronnie also has a hint of striations in his obliques which Dorian lacks. Now couple Ronnie's aforementioned strengths with a narrower waist, and it becomes apparent why Ronnie's midsection beats Dorian's in this pose (note: I'm only referring to the front double biceps).

Legs

Ronnie's quads have superior muscular bulk, definition, shape, and fullness. His rectus femoris are more separated, and his outer quads have more sweep to them. Even though Dorian's legs are more balanced, Ronnie's combination of muscularity, detail and shape overwhelm them.


you are right only with arms.

ronnie's chest is too long WITH GYNO and his abs are too short.

arnolds' chest was long, but he had a good midsection.

ronnie's midsection better?  why dont you just say yates has better biceps?

with ronnie's long chest, bad 4 pack, no calves, it ruins every front shot.

all he has is arms. 

what good is a taper if your torso is extremely short?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26497 on: March 14, 2007, 11:45:40 AM »
you are right only with arms. ronnie's chest is too long WITH GYNO and his abs are too short. arnolds' chest was long, but he had a good midsection. ronnie's midsection better?  why dont you just say yates has better biceps? with ronnie's long chest, bad 4 pack, no calves, it ruins every front shot. all he has is arms. what good is a taper if your torso is extremely short?

lame reply. All you did was disagree with me. You didn't support your argument with any explanations or examples. Come back when you actually have something intelligent to say. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26498 on: March 14, 2007, 01:19:17 PM »
Hulkster, Ronnie never had a front double bi this good for the reasons I already pointed out as severe flaws on Coleman:

A) Gyno
B) Pancake chest
C) No Calves
D) Weak/non existant sartorius development
E) Alien Abs
F) Smooth condition (compared to Diesel)

Yeah that sartorius development really wins the front double bi for Dorian, lol. Anyone with half a brain would look at those two pics (which you're still too pussy to post side by side) and see the superior arms on Ronnie first of all - it is a bicep pose, the smaller waist and the eye popping muscle bellies ala Flex, then maybe if they have time the superior legs. Of course the sartorius would change everything.........

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26499 on: March 14, 2007, 01:22:34 PM »
lame reply. All you did was disagree with me. You didn't support your argument with any explanations or examples. Come back when you actually have something intelligent to say. ;)

yes, i did disgree with you and explained why i think dorian would win that pose.

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