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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26975 on: March 31, 2007, 06:46:04 PM »
Gaspari, Haney and DeMey (88) vs Ronnie, Chris and Dennis (2001):



the possibilities are endless! 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26976 on: March 31, 2007, 06:46:59 PM »
thanks to ForcedReps's awesome screencaps, we can now do stuff like this, Haney peak form vs Ronnie peak form:

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Coleman is the clear winner, hey I only said haney had the thicker chest and the wider back.

Coleman is more complete and his muscle form is better and he is of course bigger cause he is heavier.

I still don't get it why you compare haney with coleman, it's total pointless.

It's like the yates nuthuggers would compare yates from 1995 with coleman from 1995, it's retarded ;)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26977 on: March 31, 2007, 06:48:20 PM »
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I still don't get it why you compare haney with coleman, it's total pointless.

so is comparing peak coleman to peak yates 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26978 on: March 31, 2007, 06:49:06 PM »
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Coleman is the clear winner, hey I only said haney had the thicker chest and the wider back.

do you think Haney had a wider back?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26979 on: March 31, 2007, 06:54:17 PM »
do you think Haney had a wider back?


Yeah I think so cause I have seen them both ;)

Haney has the better structure.

I was more impressed from haneys back than from colemans.

Of course coleman was the bigger BB but haney had the wider back and I have seen them both.

Haneys back is still unmatched at least from what I have seen.




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26980 on: March 31, 2007, 10:40:37 PM »
Haney looked awesome without the drugs from today but it's pointless to compare a guy on GH with someone like haney that had not the chance to max his potential like coleman did on GH.

Haney has won the Mr.O 8 times without the drugs from today  ;)

I have seen both guys a few times on stage and coleman even backstage and I can  tell you haney is still the man with the best back in my book.

Sure coleman has awesome arms and legs and also a great back so therefore he is more complete but to claim haney would be a b tier olympian is stupid.

Both guys have/had flaws, coleman is far away from perfect.

Coleman has the best back in the world ? Sorry not in my book.

Best back double biceps pose yes cause of his biceps but best back NO.

Haney had a way better structure and much better back/chest, he was wider than coleman and that without GH so to call haney b tier is ridiculous.

Coleman has the advantage in biceps, lower back, legs but haney at his peak blows coleman away from the back and from the chest if it comes to thickness.


To compare a guy on GH with somone that hasn't used it is almost like you would compare a natural with someone on roids ;)  Pointless.

Hell haneys back/chest was better than colemans and that almost 20 years ago so that should give you an idea how haney would have looked compared with him if he would have used todays drugs and would have played the mass game  ;)

Haney is still unmatched if it comes to back and chest thickness, you would say the same if you would have seen haney onstage at his best.

So better biceps/legs for coleman yes but better back or chest no way....

Sure coleman would win over haney at his best no question but like I said haney is the man if it comes to chest and back.

Never forget haney peaked almost 20 years ago so please stop to compare them.

I want not even know how coleman would look and what he would be today without GH ;)

BTW, Your haney pics show him at his worst showings (1989/90)

Here are a few better pics of haney if you still want compare him with coleman but like I said this comparison is pointless.



we agree to disagree.

I don't think Haney had a better back even at his best than Ronnie.

I mean, this is just crazy:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26981 on: March 31, 2007, 10:45:09 PM »
haney still had a crazy ass back though.

better than dorian's at his best.

but I don't think he could match Ronnie in 99 at least for overall impressiveness:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26982 on: April 01, 2007, 03:23:52 AM »
haney's back looks better than coleman's..... ???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26983 on: April 01, 2007, 03:49:06 AM »
haney still had a crazy ass back though.

better than dorian's at his best.


No way did Haney ever match this:




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26984 on: April 01, 2007, 01:56:32 PM »
  Ronnie Coleman is better than Dorian Yates! :D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26985 on: April 01, 2007, 01:57:41 PM »
  That was my April fool's joke for you... :P ;D ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26986 on: April 01, 2007, 02:05:52 PM »
No way did Haney ever match this:





In terms of dryness yates is unbeatable from the back but that doesn't mean that his back double biceps looks better.

Haney is also in great shape on the 1988 pics and if you open your eyes you will see that haney is the clear winner if it comes to v-taper,muscle bulk and shape of the lats oh and lets not forget the traps thickness.  Yates has a pencile neck compared to haney ;)

But yeah yates has a awesome hardness from the back, his flaw is the hardness from the front.

He has never showed the same hardness from the front.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26987 on: April 01, 2007, 02:33:07 PM »
bump for lack of pictures

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26988 on: April 01, 2007, 03:55:03 PM »
In terms of dryness yates is unbeatable from the back but that doesn't mean that his back double biceps looks better.

Haney is also in great shape on the 1988 pics and if you open your eyes you will see that haney is the clear winner if it comes to v-taper,muscle bulk and shape of the lats oh and lets not forget the traps thickness.  Yates has a pencile neck compared to haney ;)

But yeah yates has a awesome hardness from the back, his flaw is the hardness from the front.

He has never showed the same hardness from the front.

After reading your last post there is no doubt in my mind that you are an American fanboy.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26989 on: April 02, 2007, 07:00:53 AM »
haney still had a crazy ass back though.

better than dorian's at his best.

but I don't think he could match Ronnie in 99 at least for overall impressiveness:

i think both haney and ronnie have stated that yates has the best back of all time.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26990 on: April 02, 2007, 07:29:29 AM »
haney does not have wider lats then coleman. nor is his back thicker. ronnie was in better condition at a higher bodyweight. throw in the 03 ronnie and its a ridiculous argument.


the fact that you've seen both means literally nothing. why do you think eye witness testimony isn't a credible source of evidence?

memory, bias, and suggestibility often affects us, actually always effects us. you seeing haney years before coleman at his peak(YEARS) would lead your mind to decieve you. im looking at the pictures and i fail to see how is back is wider or thicker.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26991 on: April 02, 2007, 08:12:42 AM »

He has never showed the same hardness from the front.

disagree:



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26992 on: April 02, 2007, 01:45:24 PM »


Ronnie 99 had a superior back to Haney, IMO.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26993 on: April 02, 2007, 02:25:48 PM »

Ronnie 99 had a superior back to Haney, IMO.



its not an opinon its reality based on the criteria.

i have never been that impressed with haney, in any of the vids or pics i have seen. his small waist and taper has impressed me to a degree. but ive seen better.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26994 on: April 02, 2007, 03:24:28 PM »
ha ha ha ha, you guys are still at it? I thought this discussion was already settled by visual evidence, a Getbig poll, eye witness testimony, and quotes from professional bodybuilders and magazine writers. I guess some people are just delusional nuthuggers. :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26995 on: April 02, 2007, 04:21:30 PM »

i have never been that impressed with haney, in any of the vids or pics i have seen. his small waist and taper has impressed me to a degree. but ive seen better.

The hype on Haney is tremendous, based largely on numbers of wins, like Yates.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26996 on: April 02, 2007, 08:43:16 PM »

Ronnie 99 had a superior back to Haney, IMO.



agreed.

as good as haney's back was, the best back is a 2 man race. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26997 on: April 02, 2007, 08:44:04 PM »
ha ha ha ha, you guys are still at it? I thought this discussion was already settled by visual evidence, a Getbig poll, eye witness testimony, and quotes from professional bodybuilders and magazine writers. I guess some people are just delusional nuthuggers. :-\


yeah, but some of that favors the other guy.

especially, when some consider yates overrated. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26998 on: April 02, 2007, 08:45:20 PM »
The hype on Haney is tremendous, based largely on numbers of wins, like Yates.


i think the issue with haney is that he had no real competition.

all of his main competitors were like 5'6.

he never faced any formidable competitors, unlike yates and ronnie. 

any year of yates or coleman, if they were off, any # of guys could win.

can the samething be set for haney?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26999 on: April 03, 2007, 04:34:10 AM »



Now, not to dispute that Dorian had a great back, it clearly does not flare out in the awe-inspiring way which had so many people crown Ronnie's as 'the greatest back of all time'.

In the same way that Dorian's wins were cool because he had his own style and wasn't all arms and small waist like so many bbs, Ronnie had his own style too and his awesome lat-waist ratio is part of it - coupled with his trademark unparalelled hams/glutes. In this sense it's apples and oranges, but personally when I look at Yates's back double bi I see a thick back with little taper accompanied by huge delts and strange looking arms. Ronnie's is a 3D display of width and (it's called the BACK double BICEP) awesome biceps which is anything but flat. It's insane when people say Yates wins this one. Plus Dorian has a noticeable lat imbalance, his right one looks slightly damaged, certainly asymmetrical.

Back lat spread is much more debatable, but give this one to Ronnie without doubt.