Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

No, he had muscle size over Dorian and nothing more.

Ronnie in 03 had greater muscularity, definition, shape, taper and fullness.

Balance?! How can the 2003 Coleman have better balance than Dorian with quads that overpower his upper body, an ass that overpowers his back, small forearms, calves that are pathetic for a guy who weight over 280 lbs and a gut that that looks like that of a pregnant woman? To me, the gut by itself ruins that complete look of the physique because it makes Ronnie look obese, which is the opposite of what an in-shape physque is supposed to look like.

wow, you guy dumbf*cks sure love to put words in people's mouths. Show me where I said 03 Ronnie has better balance than Dorian. I've always maintained in this thread that Ronnie and Dorian both have comparable symmetry issues. So balance shouldn't be listed as an advantage for either. Dorian's arms are overpowered by his back, his midsection is too wide, he's missing his upper pecs, and his calves actually seem too big for his quads.

As for conditioning...please ...give me a fucking break! Ronnie couldn't match Dorian for hardness even at 250 lbs, let alone 287 lbs! Look at Ronnie's posing video from the 2003 Olympia and you'll see that he barely has a cut on his back! He still had ok separations on his quads due to good separations genetics, but that's about it. The 2003 Ronnie does defeat an all-time best Dorian for muscularity, but Dorian takes symmetry. That's 50% of the points!

the difference in conditioning between Dorian and 03 Ronnie is less than the difference in size. Ronnie makes Dorian look like his b*tch.





and that's from the back where Dorian is most competitive. From the front, it's LIGHTS OUT, GAME OVER!!!

[suckmymuscle]

  Sperm having a morning meltdown. Again with the meaningless quotes, and again with the charge that I am accusing him of saying things that he didn't. This despite the fact that I actually quoted the post where he said that two guys who weight 200lbs and carry 3% bodyfat will not have the same amount of bodyfat if one is taller. Hey, Sperm, ready to get your ass kicked at this year's Mr.Getbig?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

no, the general consensus was that an 03 Ronnie would beat a prime Dorian. Ronnie simply has a better combination of muscularity, conditioning, and balance than Dorian. However, the Dorian nuthuggers think calves outweigh everything else.

  Here is where you say that the 2003 Ronnie has better balance than Dorian. Can you say owned? I can.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

Sir NeoSeminole having a morning meltdown. Again with the meaningless quotes, and again with the charge that I am accusing him of saying things that he didn't.

huh? Since when does formulating an argument and supporting it with testimony and visual evidence constitute a meltdown? By the way, you have yet to show me where I said 03 Ronnie has better balance than Dorian. I'm still waiting...

Hey, NeoSeminole, ready to get your ass kicked at this year's Mr.Getbig?

you are so far behind me now that I have nothing to worry about. Hulkster knows what I'm talking about. The only way you can beat me is by using drugs. I hope you are prepared to get owned by a 22 yr old, you pathetic loser.

[NeoSeminole]

Here is where you say that the 2003 Ronnie has better balance than Dorian. Can you say owned? I can.

can you not read, dumbass? Re-read the whole quote.

"Ronnie simply has a better combination of muscularity, conditioning, and balance than Dorian."

if I had singled balance out, then you would be right. However, I was referring to a combination of all those factors. The only person who got owned is you for typing a hasty reply and it backfiring.

[suckmymuscle]

can you not read, dumbass? Re-read the whole quote.

"Ronnie simply has a better combination of muscularity, conditioning, and balance than Dorian."

if I had singled balance out, then you would be right. However, I was referring to a combination of all those factors. The only person who got owned is you for typing a hasty reply and it backfiring.

  And how does that change what you said? You included balance in your reasons for why you believe that the 2003 Coleman would defeat Dorian. If you didn't believe that the 2003 Ronnie had better balance than Dorian, you would not have mentioned that. You got owned big time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  And Sperm, please explain me something. If the 2003 Coleman did not have better balance than Dorian's, then how exactly would this add to his superior "combination"? If it is only as good as Dorian's or worse, then it is not contributing anything to the combination. You have committed a logical fallacy, which happens when you outsmart yourself.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

And how does that change what you said? You included balance in your reasons for why you believe that the 2003 Coleman would defeat Dorian. If you didn't believe that the 2003 Ronnie had better balance than Dorian, you would not have mentioned that. You got owned big time.

uhhh, last time I checked, bodybuilding contests were judged on muscularity, conditioning, and balance. Ronnie at the 03 Mr. Olympia simply matched the criteria better than Dorian. Stop acting so dumb. The only person getting owned here is you.

[NeoSeminole]

And Sir NeoSeminole, please explain me something. If the 2003 Coleman did not have better balance than Dorian's, then how exactly would this add to his superior "combination"? If it is only as good as Dorian's or worse, then it is not contributing anything to the combination. You have committed a logical fallacy, which happens when you outsmart yourself.

refer to above post.

[pobrecito]

Great condition all right 

[pobrecito]

So much for Ronnie's superior taper LOL

[IceCold]

So much for Ronnie's superior taper LOL

hahaha owned.

ronnie from 03 being owned by yates from 94. 

[IceCold]

I have ALWAYS given Yates density & hardness, always. Coleman's weakness IMO, even though at times he's been far more shredded than Yates, which is equally impressive but not the same.

i agree.

many guys have won shows - warren, nasser, ruhl, gunter, yates, francois, priest, etc. have won shows bc they were dryer and harder than guys that finished behind them who were more detailed with more striations. 

also, i've said what you've said from day 1 - two kinds of condition - being hard and dry or ripped and shredded.

(we all know that according to hulkster ronnie is the best of both, but his too extreme nuthuggin is insane).

[pobrecito]

hahaha owned.

ronnie from 03 being owned by yates from 94. 

Seriously, enough with this garbage that Ronnie's taper is superior, it clearly is not as that comparison shows. Yates' waist is tighter without the bulging obliques when contracted. Now I will wait for hulkster/pumpster to post a relaxed shot of Yates.

[suckmymuscle]

  Sperm, you are a piece of shit moron. If Ronnie's balance is not better than Dorian's, then why the fuck do you mention it as part of the reasons why Coleman would defeat Dorian? How can you argue that balance is one of the reasons that Ronnie would defeat Dorian if his balance is not an advantage?

  And me being dumb...please...you know who's the intellectual alpha male here. I was the guy who owned you several times by pointing out all the dumb things you say, like that Coleman carried more mass while being 10 lbs lighter, that the surface ara of an object is not proportional to it's mass, that two guys who weight the same and have the same bodyfat % won't have the same amount of bodyfat, etc. I have owned you so many times that you have a big SMM tattoed on your ass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[IceCold]

[IceCold]

Seriously, enough with this garbage that Ronnie's taper is superior, it clearly is not as that comparison shows. Yates' waist is tighter without the bulging obliques when contracted. Now I will wait for hulkster/pumpster to post a relaxed shot of Yates.

what did ronnie's taper do for him from 92-97?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

his taper only got worse as he got older.

[RocketSwitch625]

Talk about top heavy. LOL

[Hulkster]

Seriously, enough with this garbage that Ronnie's taper is superior

but in at his peak weight of around 250ish, Ronnie had a FAR superior taper..

only does 2003 and later years does ronnie's taper and lines go out the window:

Please tell me the nuthuggers do not believe that dorian had a better taper than Ronnie at his (lower bodyweight) peak?:

[Hulkster]

Talk about top heavy. LOL

talk about bottom heavy LOL: seriously, Chris dickerson has better arms than this..

[pumpster]

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[Hulkster]

what did ronnie's taper do for him from 92-97?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

ya know what is really funny?

is that you guys are now making the EXACT same arguments that ND used to have to make in his desperation against the overwelming evidence.

Sure, ronnie's taper didn't win many contests for him 92-97.

but the fact that he lost has NOTHING to do with the fact that having a great taper is not an advantage.

he lost because of OTHER reasons..lack of good conditioning, imbalances between his then huge upper body and smaller legs..lack of width (he looked really weird before he filled out) etc.

you guys are now isolating traits to somehow come up with an argument for dorian's superiority over peak ronnie.

ND did the same thing in his desperate attempt also.

Problem is, bodybuilding is NOT judged like this.

they look at the total package.

[Hulkster]

LOL Flex is KILLING dorian in this shot, and it looks like had shawn completed the pose, he would have too.


just look at shawns abs!

[D_1000]

LOL Flex is KILLING dorian in this shot, and it looks like had shawn completed the pose, he would have too.

I see it the other way around. Dorian in 1993 was unbeatable.

[Hulkster]

I see it the other way around. Dorian in 1993 was unbeatable.

...back in 93...not 5 or 6 years later: