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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32250 on: August 11, 2007, 12:37:40 PM »
what is really funny is that I promise you that FAR more people out there think that Ronnie has better quads than the 215 pound Platz than think that Dorian was better than Ronnie LOL

think about that one for a while LOL

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32251 on: August 11, 2007, 12:40:17 PM »
Oh please we've crushed this myth ages ago , need a refresher? look at these pics of Ronnie 2001 Arnold Classic and these ( according to your retard logic ) are indicative of how he looked PERIOD , countdown to the excuses 4............3.......... 2.......1.........






what you fail to realize and comment on is that Yates gets crushed by Ronnie in the BEST shots from the 93 O.

just ask Iceman and the fans on musclemecca, getbig, bodybuildingpro, etc etc etc..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32252 on: August 11, 2007, 12:41:04 PM »
what is really funny is that I promise you that FAR more people out there think that Ronnie has better quads than the 215 pound Platz than think that Dorian was better than Ronnie LOL

think about that one for a while LOL



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argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges that "If many believe so, it is so."

weak logic from a simple mind.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32253 on: August 11, 2007, 12:42:19 PM »


what you fail to realize and comment on is that Yates gets crushed by Ronnie in the BEST shots from the 93 O.

just ask Iceman and the fans on musclemecca, getbig, bodybuildingpro, etc etc etc..



NO in your opinion Yates get crushed your opinions not matter how many doesn't constitute fact just wishful thinking which is what you're left with.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32254 on: August 11, 2007, 12:44:46 PM »


what you fail to realize and comment on is that Yates gets crushed by Ronnie in the BEST shots from the 93 O.

just ask Iceman and the fans on musclemecca, getbig, bodybuildingpro, etc etc etc..



And you're corrected in your opinion that the bad pics argument only applies to Dorian , I just corrected you for the umpteenth time your absence in addressing this doesn't excuse you from issuing an apology  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32255 on: August 11, 2007, 12:45:05 PM »
LOL so when what, 95% of fans out there when shown good and fair comparions shots vote Ronnie, like what happened, you are going to argue that the 95% are uneducated and wrong? LOL ::)

no, the delusional minority are the incorrect ones..

and thats you and a small handful of others..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32256 on: August 11, 2007, 12:47:39 PM »
LOL here is a whole bunch of "bad pics" of dorian LOL

they are actually GREAT shots, just showing poor quality muscle.

this is something that Icecold still has not figured out, and apparently you can't either...

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32257 on: August 11, 2007, 12:49:11 PM »
LOL so when what, 95% of fans out there when shown good and fair comparions shots vote Ronnie, like what happened, you are going to argue that the 95% are uneducated and wrong? LOL ::)

no, the delusional minority are the incorrect ones..

and thats you and a small handful of others..

95% of the fans don't know how contests are judged ( you included ) 95% of fans base their opinions on personal prefference and what THEY think wins contests , and fans don't judge bodybuilding contests if they did Bertil Fox , Nasser El Sonbaty , Tom Platz , and Flex Wheeler would all have won the Mr Olympia


argumentum ad populum is weak logic , you're not working with much.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32258 on: August 11, 2007, 12:52:08 PM »
LOL here is a whole bunch of "bad pics" of dorian LOL

they are actually GREAT shots, just showing poor quality muscle.

this is something that Icecold still has not figured out, and apparently you can't either...



poor muscle quality? WTF? this stand on par with your most overrated bodybuilder ever comment lol I've posted quotes from judges and writers who ALL agree that Yates is the type of bodybduilder who pictures DO NOT do justice ontop of the crappy B&W pics you post from 1996 , now who shall we side with someone who has never attended a contest or eye witnesses , like 1993 its no contest .  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32259 on: August 11, 2007, 12:53:36 PM »
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95% of the fans don't know how contests are judged

oh please. ::)

bodybuilding fans know the difference between a good physique (yates 93) and a great physique (peak ronnie).

stop trying to say that the majority of fans out there are stupid and ignorant just because they are not delusional like you few are.

its pathetic.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32260 on: August 11, 2007, 12:55:30 PM »
You have to love the delusional at least they provide entertainment lol I'm not sure of Hulkster doesn't like Dorian because he's white but with pumpster thats pretty much a fact .

  Don't forget SemenHole saying that White people are "pasty and frail", or Pumpy claiming that Dorian was excellent...for a British White guy.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32261 on: August 11, 2007, 12:55:41 PM »
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argumentum ad populum is weak logic , you're not working with much.
 
 
 

no, it is very strong logic when we can support our position with comparisons.

you are just bitter that hardly anyone agrees with your opinion and you are desperately trying to come up with a good reason why so few people agree with you.

it isn't working.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32262 on: August 11, 2007, 12:57:35 PM »
no, it is very strong logic when we can support our position with comparisons.

you are just bitter that hardly anyone agrees with your opinion and you are desperately trying to come up with a good reason why so few people agree with you.

it isn't working.



Hulkster NO you're wrong its weak logic your substituting opinion for fact and just because the majority agree doesn't make it so , its weak logic I don't need anyone to agree with me hence why I don't use the argument as a crutch like you  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32263 on: August 11, 2007, 01:00:29 PM »
Oh please we've crushed this myth ages ago , need a refresher? look at these pics of Ronnie 2001 Arnold Classic and these ( according to your retard logic ) are indicative of how he looked PERIOD , countdown to the excuses 4............3.......... 2.......1.........




The funny thing is, great pics of yates and Ronnie showing there size, detail, seperation etc from 2 of there best years for each guy were shown side by side and yates got crushed, according to the majority of people.

Who is better 99/03 Ronnie or 93/95 Yates?
It also mentioned 99' Ronnie here 108 votes to yates 93' 23 votes and yates 95' 32 votes
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3109401

Who is better 99/03 Ronnie or 93/95 Yates?
It also mentioned 99' Ronnie here 39 votes to yates 93' 6 votes and yates 95' 10 votes
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=9710

Did I forget this one?
Who has the best back so far?
It also mentioned Ronnie here 207 votes to yates 103 votes.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2974091

Oh look, here is another one.
The best PHYSIQUE ever in YOUR opinion?
Although Flex is winning this poll, It mentioned Ronnie with 59 votes to yates 20 votes
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3505431

These polls are from different sources and 2 of them specifically mention and show pics of a 99 & 03 Ronnie crushing a 93 & 95 yates.

I can't wait for some idiotic replies to this post.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32264 on: August 11, 2007, 01:01:00 PM »
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I'm not sure of Hulkster doesn't like Dorian because he's white

I don't like dorian because his muscles lack the shapelyness of people like flex, ronnie and even shawn ray.

also because his arms, quads and delts always looks so soft and puffy, even in 93.

also because even at his best, his waist is superthick.

it has nothing to do with colour.

if dorian were PURPLE he would STILL have these flaws.

so I really don't know why the dorian side keeps bringing race into it.

oh wait, I do know:

its the only thing they can come up with to criticize our opinion because it is a widely held and supported one....and they don't like looking like delusional fools.. :-*
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32265 on: August 11, 2007, 01:01:16 PM »

but the newport smoking ghetto rat will talk shit about everyone else, yet post no pictures.

must be the darkest pussy in the history of getbig.

Don't forget these pics. LOL

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32266 on: August 11, 2007, 01:01:38 PM »
oh please. ::)

bodybuilding fans know the difference between a good physique (yates 93) and a great physique (peak ronnie).

stop trying to say that the majority of fans out there are stupid and ignorant just because they are not delusional like you few are.

its pathetic.


LMFAO 1993 a ' good ' physique this comment highlights your ignorance its quite okay you feel it was just good but you're the guy on the Titanic saying everythings okay lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32267 on: August 11, 2007, 01:02:52 PM »
no, it is very strong logic when we can support our position with comparisons.

you are just bitter that hardly anyone agrees with your opinion and you are desperately trying to come up with a good reason why so few people agree with you.

it isn't working.


hulkster im getting the feeling you are a Ronnie Coleman fan. are you suggesting that ronnie is better than , oh, say Dorian yates?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32268 on: August 11, 2007, 01:03:30 PM »
The funny thing is, great pics of yates and Ronnie showing there size, detail, seperation etc from 2 of there best years for each guy were shown side by side and yates got crushed, according to the majority of people.

Who is better 99/03 Ronnie or 93/95 Yates?
It also mentioned 99' Ronnie here 108 votes to yates 93' 23 votes and yates 95' 32 votes
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3109401

Who is better 99/03 Ronnie or 93/95 Yates?
It also mentioned 99' Ronnie here 39 votes to yates 93' 6 votes and yates 95' 10 votes
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=9710

Did I forget this one?
Who has the best back so far?
It also mentioned Ronnie here 207 votes to yates 103 votes.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2974091

Oh look, here is another one.
The best PHYSIQUE ever in YOUR opinion?
Although Flex is winning this poll, It mentioned Ronnie with 59 votes to yates 20 votes
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3505431

These polls are from different sources and 2 of them specifically mention and show pics of a 99 & 03 Ronnie crushing a 93 & 95 yates.

I can't wait for some idiotic replies to this post.

argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges that "If many believe so, it is so."

Your opinion no matter how numerous don't mean your right  , its weak logic.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32269 on: August 11, 2007, 01:05:47 PM »
how is it weak logic when it is supported and backed up with excellent comparison pics?

no, weak logic is looking at the same pics, not having a sound knowlege of what the judges look for, and then going with an opinion that few people share (because it makes little sense based on the comparisons)

THAT is weak logic.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32270 on: August 11, 2007, 01:06:12 PM »
I don't like dorian because his muscles lack the shapelyness of people like flex, ronnie and even shawn ray.

also because his arms, quads and delts always looks so soft and puffy, even in 93.

also because even at his best, his waist is superthick.

it has nothing to do with colour.

if dorian were PURPLE he would STILL have these flaws.

so I really don't know why the dorian side keeps bringing race into it.

oh wait, I do know:

its the only thing they can come up with to criticize our opinion because it is a widely held and supported one....and they don't like looking like delusional fools.. :-*

Okay we know why you don't like Dorian HOWEVER does that mean he can't beat Ronnie? thats the question lol and he had all those faults and dominated the most shapely Flex and the biggest Dillet/Nasser this is where your ignorance of the criteria comes through , he won for many reasons and it wasn't because he was the most shapely or the biggest .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32271 on: August 11, 2007, 01:07:50 PM »
  Here's a list of retarded things that the Coleman spooge-suckers have claiming several times:

- That Ronnie was more dominant than Dorian, even though Dorian had five out of six straight-firsts Olympia victories while he had less.

- That Dorian's gut at the 1995 Olympia was worse than that of Coleman at the 2003 Olympia.

- That Coleman carried more lean muscle mass at 247 lbs than at 257 lbs, even though Coleman was at 3% bodyfat at 257lbs.

- That Dorian should have lost the Olympia due to his torn biceps, which comprises 3% of the muscle mass of a Human body

- That a 260 lbs Dorian carried less lean muscle mass than a 247 lbs Coleman, even though they had about equal bodyfat levels and that their difference in skeletel frame weight was at best 5 lbs.

- That things look in a photography exactly how they look in loco,  thus claiming that I was using a "photoelectric effect" explanation for why Dorian looked best in person than on pics.

  I grew tired of arguing with the Coleman fans because they are fanatics who don't respond to reason, logic and common sense. Not only that, most of them are biased towards the 2003 showing of Coleman, his second worse performance ever besides 2004.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32272 on: August 11, 2007, 01:09:23 PM »
how is it weak logic when it is supported and backed up with excellent comparison pics?

no, weak logic is looking at the same pics, ignoring them, and going with an opinion that very few people share... ::)

Again its weak because the masses don't decide , judges do and again because its popular doesn't means its so your opinion is flawed because of ignorance , bias , personal preference , etc you see what you want in the comparisons not what a judge sees , you have limited abilities but thats nothing we didn't already know.  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32273 on: August 11, 2007, 01:10:16 PM »
The only guy capable of beating Yates is Haney. No one can prove me wrong because it actually happened.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #32274 on: August 11, 2007, 01:10:48 PM »
  Don't forget SemenHole saying that White people are "pasty and frail", or Pumpy claiming that Dorian was excellent...for a British White guy.

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