Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[suckmymuscle]

Then stop bashing Ronnie because of his "small" calves!

  Fair enough...but I never bashed Ronnie for his calves: I simply pointed out that his calves represented a liability in certain angles and in certain poses. For instance, even though Dorian's front double biceps pose is perfect in terms of symmetry, I believe that most bodybuilders would defeat Dorian in this pose because Yates' biceps were really sub-par. They were still great, but definitely not Mr.Olympia caliber. They are also a liability in the back double biceps, but Dorian's back muscles, traps, hams and glutes are so superior that it doesen't matter. Only a biased fool wouldn't think that Ronnie's sub-par calves didn't take away from his back double biceps, back lat spread and side mandatories.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Today is my birthday!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Shockwave]

This is MY OPINION on why Dorian would beat Ronnie and its based on the IFBB judging criteria which I know and know how to apply

Dorian has everything the judges are looking for muscular balance , muscular size , conditioning and muscle density he is executing the pose perfectly and lacks nothing , now its MY OPINION that Dorian meets the IFBB judging criteria better than Ronnie it isn't a fact its an educated opinion ( which is more than yours ) so keep chasing your tail while I laugh .

That is such a textbook shot.
Everything is well balanced, but doesn't look as bland as a Cormier, where nothing stands out. Dorians 93 physique is unrivaled.

[figgs]

Just think of all the life you used up typing on your keyboard arguing over an opinion.

[NarcissisticDeity]

That is such a textbook shot.
Everything is well balanced, but doesn't look as bland as a Cormier, where nothing stands out. Dorians 93 physique is unrivaled.

Great post !

[phyxsius]

huckster,

popular opinion on a message board nor your bedroom full of ronnie posters doesn't quite equate to "tons of credible evidence".

that's funny

[IceCold]

we are still waiting for you to go on all those forums with the polls comparing the 99 Ronnie vs 93 dorian shots and tell the 90+% that voted for Ronnie how much better you can apply the critera LOL

I would pay good money to see that.

hahahaha

someone made the argument that bc ronnie is more recent people will vote for him over the previous champion.

i believe that to be true for a a few reasons.

one, it is more recent in everyone's memory.

also, i was flipping through magazines from 99-01, and dorian won ever poll, best back, most muscular, etc.  that had to with that people were still used to him being mr. olympia and not ronnie.

notice how i said between the years of 99-01 - that comprises the "best" of coleman that you claim. yet, bc dorian was more recent, he won the polls.

bc ronnie was more recent to date, he won the polls.

a perfect example will be in about 3 or 4 years, when jay is mr. olympia, people will point to him and not ronnie.

same exact thing your doing with yates and ronnie.

but, then, you'll talk about how ronnie still beat jay which is the same exact logic as dorian beating ronnie.

[Danimal77]

  Today is my birthday!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Happy Birthday

[toty21]

Just think of all the life you used up typing on your keyboard arguing over an opinion.

LOL 

[IceCold]

That is such a textbook shot.
Everything is well balanced, but doesn't look as bland as a Cormier, where nothing stands out. Dorians 93 physique is unrivaled.

there's another one.

huckster keeps talking about these polls, but in over a year, its been the same 3 nuthuggers for ronnie - huckster, iceman, and pumpster/bowflex.

surely, if all these people voted on the polls, then they would come over here and voice their opinion.

yet, at least 1 time a week, whether it be squadfather or this week shockwave, supporting reality - that yates rules.

by the way, iceman and huckster thinks ronnie's quads are better than platz.

if that isnt pathetic nuthugging, then tell me what is?

[IceCold]

huckster,

popular opinion on a message board nor your bedroom full of ronnie posters doesn't quite equate to "tons of credible evidence".

huckster also cited ken b, a mod. on ironage as a credible source.

mods being credible?

you mean like our very own pumpster, a mod on the training forum, yet despite not even going to a gym and using a bowflex in his dirty, ghetto ass apartment?

huckster will claim anyone and anybody if it matches his delusions, despite whatever anyone has to say.

INCLUDING RONNING HIMSELF.

lmao.

[NeoSeminole]

####? looks like I'm getting to someone in all of our exchanges I don't ever recall stooping to this level , I've insulted peoples intelligence yes but this? you played yourself with this one kid

it's only appropriate that I address you by what you are, and I have never stooped to your low of making up lies.

Oh yes you're grasping at straws with the word lie , the fact that continue to post those pics very much implies you think they're A-O-kay and if you think they're NOT perfect or okay why post them as what you think is an accurate comparison ? why not preface it by stating you don't think they're perfect or accurate?

blah blah blah, I'm still waiting for you to show me where I claimed my comparisons are perfect.
 

No this is where you're wrong on more than one occasion Hulkster has claimed Dorian lacks quality , if compared to Ronnie or Shawn Ray you're damn right he's claim Yates lacks quality which is nonsense is a term he read in the magazines and bandies about on here and thinks he knows what he's talking about

you accused Hulkster of saying Dorian lacks quality in order to make your argument look better when in reality, he never made such an absolute claim. This is another blatant lie on your part.

LMFAO I measured both their calves ON A SLANTED comparison I made this has to be one of the dumbest fucking things you ever fucking typed period , and you ' measured ' both their calves and forgot a PART OF RONNIE'S CALF

ha ha ha ha, covering your eyes and ears doesn't constitute a rebuttal. You made the claim that Ronnie's calves are bigger than Dorian's in my comparison. I showed this to be a lie. Moreover, I proved my comparison is fairly accurate by drawing lines across several anatomical landmarks. The results show the pic actually favors Dorian. If anything, the Ronnie fans should be complaining my comparison is unfair. I also demonstrated that 03 Ronnie's calves were the same width as Jay's that year. Jay is known for his large calves. So it's not far-fetched that Ronnie's calves might have been just as wide as Dorian's (note: I'm NOT referring to circumference).

[NeoSeminole]

Wow news flash moron NO ONE is claiming Dorian's waist is small

wow, news flash - learn to read, dumbass. Then maybe you will avoid making yourself look stupid. I didn't say Dorian had a big waist. The purpose of my post was to show Dorian had a gut also. So if you're going to criticize Ronnie and say he should have lost, then you must do the same for Dorian.

[NeoSeminole]

wow that was witty barrel with twigs get a new gimmick kid that one's played out

I can't help if it's true. Can you honestly say they don't bear a resemblance?

[NeoSeminole]

and your ton of ' credible ' lmfao ( funny to ponder the word credible used by someone ignorant of what the judges are looking for ) evidence is nothing more than like minded OPINIONS

you must have missed the memo. Here it is again for your reading pleasure. A list of professional bodybuilders, fans, and magazine writers who all said Ronnie is the best of all-time.

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dorian Yates - Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

[NeoSeminole]

and the final nail in the coffin - your beloved Team Flex saying Ronnie is the greatest.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

[NarcissisticDeity]

it's only appropriate that I address you by what you are, and I have never stooped to your low of making up lies.

blah blah blah, I'm still waiting for you to show me where I claimed my comparisons are perfect.
 
you accused Hulkster of saying Dorian lacks quality in order to make your argument look better when in reality, he never made such an absolute claim. This is another blatant lie on your part.

ha ha ha ha, covering your eyes and ears doesn't constitute a rebuttal. You made the claim that Ronnie's calves are bigger than Dorian's in my comparison. I showed this to be a lie. Moreover, I proved my comparison is fairly accurate by drawing lines across several anatomical landmarks. The results show the pic actually favors Dorian. If anything, the Ronnie fans should be complaining my comparison is unfair. I also demonstrated that 03 Ronnie's calves were the same width as Jay's that year. Jay is known for his large calves. So it's not far-fetched that Ronnie's calves might have been just as wide as Dorian's (note: I'm NOT referring to circumference).

it's only appropriate that I address you by what you are, and I have never stooped to your low of making up lies.

Again a personal attack by you means I'm getting to you  I'm above calling you a ' fagg*ot ' and again you're being melodramatic , now its ' lies ' plural lol no it wasn't a lie it was an assumption and I proved my point by you think its just fine

blah blah blah, I'm still waiting for you to show me where I claimed my comparisons are perfect.

Again show me where you didn't claim your comparisons weren't perfect , now you're playing with words and its the last resort of someone who has nothing to work with , you very much think your ' comparisons ' are JUST FINE if not perfect and if they are NOT PERFECT why post them? and why not post them with a preface? the fact you think thats an accurate depiction despite the many problems I pointed out very much give the indication you think they are fine and they're not , either way you're wrong .

you accused Hulkster of saying Dorian lacks quality in order to make your argument look better when in reality, he never made such an absolute claim. This is another blatant lie on your part.

Oh Hulkster most certainly did imply Dorian lacks quality be it compared to Ronnie or Ray thats not a blatant lie its common sense and Hulkster has on other occasions stated Dorian lacks quality so you're a tad premature in claiming its a ' blatant lie ' at the very least he implied and you're choosing to hop all over it because you don't have much to work with. ( as usual )

ha ha ha ha, covering your eyes and ears doesn't constitute a rebuttal. You made the claim that Ronnie's calves are bigger than Dorian's in my comparison. I showed this to be a lie. Moreover, I proved my comparison is fairly accurate by drawing lines across several anatomical landmarks. The results show the pic actually favors Dorian. If anything, the Ronnie fans should be complaining my comparison is unfair. I also demonstrated that 03 Ronnie's calves were the same width as Jay's that year. Jay is known for his large calves. So it's not far-fetched that Ronnie's calves might have been just as wide as Dorian's (note: I'm NOT referring to circumference).

You love to cling to the word ' lie ' the absolute hystrical thing about this whole calf thing is you made a comparison which you admit yourself as NOT being perfect and then have the balls to measure the calves on your IMPERFECT comparison and manage to leave out part of Ronnie's calves in the ' measuring ' process and try to tie Ronnie's calf ' width ' to Dorian's via Cutler its the funniest thing you personally ever posted the fact you're taking this seriously and trying to convince yourself and others to do the same is the funny part , you most certainly fit in with the other idiots who share your opinion

Neo your comparisons are NOT PERFECT  ( self admittedly ) so how can we expect your ' measurement ' to be if not perfect at least accurate? I'll tell you how we can't , you tried an elaborate way to justify your nonsense and have been exposed as the idiot you are now run along and play and come back when you learn something 

[IceCold]

you must have missed the memo. Here it is again for your reading pleasure. A list of professional bodybuilders, fans, and magazine writers who all said Ronnie is the best of all-time.

[

yawn.  old news publishing old article that contains only half the quotes - the rest saying dorian would win - including labrada, priest, samir, dugdale, etc.

how do you only have half the article?

either publish the entire article or don't publish it at all - you arent fooling anyone. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

wow, news flash - learn to read, dumbass. Then maybe you will avoid making yourself look stupid. I didn't say Dorian had a big waist. The purpose of my post was to show Dorian had a gut also. So if you're going to criticize Ronnie and say he should have lost, then you must do the same for Dorian.

Ah I never said Dorian didn't have a gut its old news you're posting the obvious I said Ronnie should have lost for his big gut AND bitch-tits plus no calves , ho-hum conditioning ( compared to Dorian ) his lack of Yatesesque balance & proportion etc , etc , etc , etc

Wow this just in Neo the internet-genius just figured out Dorian had a gut lmfao

[NarcissisticDeity]

you must have missed the memo. Here it is again for your reading pleasure. A list of professional bodybuilders, fans, and magazine writers who all said Ronnie is the best of all-time.

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dorian Yates - Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

you must have missed the memo. Here it is again for your reading pleasure. A list of professional bodybuilders, fans, and magazine writers who all said Ronnie is the best of all-time.

Everyone of these quotes don't say Ronnie is the greatest of all time LIE #1 

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Stating the obvious Ronnie 2003 was the biggest and ' hardest ' Mr Olympia in history not stating anything new 287 pounds with good conditioning thats an accurate statement , his opinion Ronnie is the greatest Mr Olympia of all time is just that an opinion , he's also of the opinion that Ronnie wouldn't have most of his Sandows if he was still competing lol but I'm sure you guys agree with Flex on that too lol

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

His opinion and I obviously disagree , and NOTICE the word probably  and best hardly

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Stating the obvious Ronnie was 287 pounds he did set the standard of being the biggest and best conditioned athlete at that time , I don't find in this particular quote where it says Ronnie is the greatest of  all time though 

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

Again stating the obvious after 2003 Ronnie was the best bodybuilder on the planet earth , Dorian was retired  and it wasn't quite accurate that no one would be able to beat ' touch ' him for years to come lol the follow year he only beat Jay by just 3 points !! thats touchable ! and again I don't see where it says Ronnie is the greatest of all time in this one either 

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

I'm having trouble with this one as well , I don't see a reference about Ronnie being the best of all time  I see him stating the obvious Ronnie most certainly dominated the competition in 2003 and that year his physique couldn't be equaled

b]Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)[/b]

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

lets see whats missing ......oh the reference of Ronnie being the best of all time thats whats missing on this quote lol Shawn stating the very obvious and I'm surprised you posted this because Shawn agrees with me that Ronnie won in 2003 based on sheer mass not because he presented the best overall physique from top to bottom , and I'm sure you agree with all Shawn's comments on Ronnie? 

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

He was giving his opinion and he never said Ronnie was the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived that he has the attributes to be the  big difference and this is a comment on Dorian Yates by Mike from Flex Oct 2003

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.

Kind of contradicts what he says about Ronnie don't cha think? either way its his opinion

Dorian Yates - Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Wow talk about Fluff lol you're reaching very far with this one simply because NO WHERE does Dorian state Ronnie is the best who ever lived and he said repeated in this interview that it was VERY HARD for him to answer this and that the judges would PROBABLY ( operating word ) choose Ronnie based on a size advantage , not certainly but probably and that says nothing about how Ronnie would fair against Dorian from 1998/1999/2001 which in Peter McGough states ( 01 ) as being better than 2003 so lets find out what Yates thinks on those topic I'm wager its a different opinion 

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

LMAFO where does it state Ronnie is the greatest of all time? I'm still looking for all these claims and he's stating the obvious see above

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

This isn't accurate because at among his best showings 1998 he was very beatable and in 2003 he wasn't beatable by anyone who he was competing with

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

He's giving his opinion and I respect Peter's opinion very much but humbly disagree with it

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

keyword arguably its open for discussion its NOT a closed case

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Again opinion not much more

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

This is posed as a question and its NOT a declaration and the answer is yes Dorian 1993 

most of the opinion don't say hands down that Ronnie is the greatest of all time a few do , so your little ploy is like your comparisons NOT ACCURATE  and neither is the argument from ad populum ( appeal to the masses ) the only opinions that do matter are judges in the end .

[NarcissisticDeity]

I can't help if it's true. Can you honestly say they don't bear a resemblance?

the last resort of someone who lacks the intellect to argue his point , just like the comment you made about me being a ' fagg*t ' desperate mumblings of a frustrated person , I used to think that you were a little more intelligent than pumpster & Hulkster but I was mistaken and I;ll accept your apology when you're man enough to give it 

[NeoSeminole]

Again a personal attack by you means I'm getting to you I'm above calling you a ' fagg*ot ' and again you're being melodramatic , now its ' lies ' plural lol no it wasn't a lie it was an assumption and I proved my point by you think its just fine

oh please, all you've done is make yourself look stupider and stupider with every post. Yeah, you're really getting to me.

Again show me where you didn't claim your comparisons weren't perfect , now you're playing with words and its the last resort of someone who has nothing to work with , you very much think your ' comparisons ' are JUST FINE if not perfect and if they are NOT PERFECT why post them? and why not post them with a preface? the fact you think thats an accurate depiction despite the many problems I pointed out very much give the indication you think they are fine and they're not , either way you're wrong.

the burden of proof rests on the person making the positive claim. You inferred that I said my comparisons are perfect. I'm still waiting for you to show me where I claimed this.

Oh Hulkster most certainly did imply Dorian lacks quality be it compared to Ronnie or Ray thats not a blatant lie its common sense and Hulkster has on other occasions stated Dorian lacks quality so you're a tad premature in claiming its a ' blatant lie ' at the very least he implied and you're choosing to hop all over it because you don't have much to work with. ( as usual )

your reading comprehension, as usual, leaves much to be desired. You accused Hulkster of saying Dorian lacks quality. That's it. Nothing more. Got it? Hulkster called you out on your bullshit, and you ignored him like it never happened or fabricated a lie that he said Dorian lacks quality when compared to guys like Ronnie and Shawn Ray to save face.

You love to cling to the word ' lie ' the absolute hystrical thing about this whole calf thing is you made a comparison which you admit yourself as NOT being perfect and then have the balls to measure the calves on your IMPERFECT comparison and manage to leave out part of Ronnie's calves in the ' measuring ' process and try to tie Ronnie's calf ' width ' to Dorian's via Cutler its the funniest thing you personally ever posted the fact you're taking this seriously and trying to convince yourself and others to do the same is the funny part , you most certainly fit in with the other idiots who share your opinion

the accuracy of my comparison aside, you still claimed Ronnie's calves look bigger in the pic. I already proved this is not true using a ruler. Now shut the f*ck up little boy before I own you for the 100th time.

[IceCold]

extreme ownage by ND.

job well done !


by the way, its extremely amussing that neo whatever he is, refuses to post the entire article where half the people in their said yates was the best and would not be beaten by any version of ronnie.

he claims the quotes he has are the only ones.

how convienent.

[pumpster]

I give you our 6-time winner with unblemished record.

[NarcissisticDeity]

oh please, all you've done is make yourself look stupider and stupider with every post. Yeah, you're really getting to me.

the burden of proof rests on the person making the positive claim. You inferred that I said my comparisons are perfect. I'm still waiting for you to show me where I claimed this.

your reading comprehension, as usual, leaves much to be desired. You accused Hulkster of saying Dorian lacks quality. That's it. Nothing more. Got it? Hulkster called you out on your bullshit, and you ignored him like it never happened or fabricated a lie that he said Dorian lacks quality when compared to guys like Ronnie and Shawn Ray to save face.

the accuracy of my comparison aside, you still claimed Ronnie's calves look bigger in the pic. I already proved this is not true using a ruler. Now shut the f*ck up little boy before I own you for the 100th time.

oh please, all you've done is make yourself look stupider and stupider with every post. Yeah, you're really getting to me.

You resort to petty name calling and I'm the one who looks ' stupider ' ? lol great logic I've corrected you and Hulkster with facts countless times I've constantly & consistantly proved myself more knowledgeable about competitive bodybuilding compared to you and Hulkster and forget pumpster your statement carries no weight like your opinions 

the burden of proof rests on the person making the positive claim. You inferred that I said my comparisons are perfect. I'm still waiting for you to show me where I claimed this.

Again you're playing with words , Okay I'll retract my statement eluding that you think your comparisons are ' perfect ' but thank you for admitting they're not lol because thats obvious and again the question is why post them if they're not accurate or fair? 

your reading comprehension, as usual, leaves much to be desired. You accused Hulkster of saying Dorian lacks quality. That's it. Nothing more. Got it? Hulkster called you out on your bullshit, and you ignored him like it never happened or fabricated a lie that he said Dorian lacks quality when compared to guys like Ronnie and Shawn Ray to save face.

Oh he most certainly eluded to Dorian lacking quality compared to Ronnie and again he has said in the past about Dorian lacking quality compared to Ray & Coleman , maybe I'll look for it later and either ways its a term he doesn't even know what means he reads it in a magazine and think it applies , its an example of his ignorance

the accuracy of my comparison aside, you still claimed Ronnie's calves look bigger in the pic. I already proved this is not true using a ruler. Now shut the f*ck up little boy before I own you for the 100th time.

LMFAO accuracy aiside thats the whole point and again you didn't even measure a part of the calf and again Ronnie's calves don't compare to Dorians no matter what vehicle you tale to get there

and kid you couldn't own me if it was 1860 and I was black in Virginia  you have nothing for me little man , keep trying thats all you can do