Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[IceCold]

gee, how fucking convienient..


when dorian gets owned and experts agree, you say it is wrong.

when dorian gets owned you say its because he 'looks bad on film'..

can you see a fucking pattern here? 

and when people openly comment on dorian, you either say they are being humble (ronnie coleman) or that they dont know what they're talking about and you know more than them (peter mcgough).

notice how i mentioned ronnie and PM - not these people like pumpster who vote in your polls.

explain why you emphasize when someone in the industry says something about ronnie, but not yates.

in fact, you refuse to acknowledge their comments.

EXPLAIN YOURSELF

[Hulkster]

explain why you emphasize when someone in the industry says something about ronnie, but not yates.

in fact, you refuse to acknowledge their comments.

EXPLAIN YOURSELF

because those quotes are completely irrelevant because they are not comparing ronnie vs yates.

that is the topic of this thread.

you can't take a quote made in 1992 and say it is relevant to a comparison to a physique that came 7 years later..

quote have a time context to them.

what was amazing in 1990 is common place today (such as ripped glutes for example)..

Secondly, if you think that arguing the reason that dorian gets owned is

'because he looks bad on film and no one else does', well, then you my friend, are being as naive as humanly possible..

Yates did  not have magical properties unique to him.

He did not look any worse on film than anyone else did.

[delta9mda]

and the same is not true of Ronnie or anyone else?

 

Cut the crap with this 'dorian has magical properties that no one else has' argument.

it is stupid, wrong and total bullshit.

and, as ND would say, a total fallacy, faulty logic and weak to boot.

 

Its no wonder everyone looks at the cold hard evidence and says ronnie is better.

you guys have no idea what the fuck you are doing

its not fantasy, i saw yates live in 91 and 95. the pics of him in mags from the 95 o dont show how he looked for real. i was there, saw it with my own eyes. he dominated 95 more so than 93. that is just the way it is.

[Hulkster]

Its amazing how WEAK the argument has become since ND came back.

In a few short days:

1. we are back to quotes as opposed to real proof.

2. we are back to claiming dorian had magical properties unique to him as an excuse for his being owned.

3. we have dormant polls resurrected (by over 1000 votes) OVERNIGHT by people who claim not to CARE about poll results...

its unreal.

When ND was gone the debate was interesting, with comparisons being used and discussions.

Now, it is just stupid. The argument is no longer an argument, just a set of excuses..with no comparisons even bothered to be posted anymore..

as if bodybuilding is a blind man's sport..

 

ND, go back from where the hell you came from.

or, post something with some fucking substance for once..

[Hulkster]

its not fantasy, i saw yates live in 91 and 95. the pics of him in mags from the 95 o dont show how he looked for real. i was there, saw it with my own eyes. he dominated 95 more so than 93. that is just the way it is.

I have some news for you.

the pics of ANY pro in a magazine do not to justice to a pro live and in person.

the first time I ever saw a pro up close and personal, it was a real eye opener compared to the pics in the mags..

[NeoSeminole]

For the billionth time, I understood the first time, but you're wrong. Why? Because all the factors you've mentioned are irrelevant when it comes to direct measurement - although you're partially correct that there is an illusion aspect to it. I measured their forearms and found a difference in excess of 1 cm. Considering the scaling of the picture, that would translate into a difference of anywhere from 20 to 30 centimeters in real life, which is too much to be explained by the fact that Dorian is bending his forearms away from the camera. For fuck sake, dude, why is this so hard for you to comprehend? How many times more will I need to explain this shit? If their fprearms were of roughly equal lengh, Ronnie's forearsm wouldn't appear to be 20 to 30 centimeters longer only on account of Dorian having his forearms  bend forward. Make an experiment. Have two bodybuilders of equal forearm lengh do the back double biceps, with one of the bending the forearm forward. Will thi be enough to make the guy who has his forearm standing up look 20 to 30 centimeters longer? Of course not.

cut the crap, you imbecile. Here's a pic of Dorian with his 22" arms like you claim. If we follow your retarded logic, then his head must be the same size as a man who's 9 feet tall. Why is it so hard for you to understand that camera angles make things look bigger or smaller?

[IceCold]

because those quotes are completely irrelevant because they are not comparing ronnie vs yates.

that is the topic of this thread.

you can't take a quote made in 1992 and say it is relevant to a comparison to a physique that came 7 years later..

quote have a time context to them.

what was amazing in 1990 is common place today (such as ripped glutes for example)..

Secondly, if you think that arguing the reason that dorian gets owned is

'because he looks bad on film and no one else does', well, then you my friend, are being as naive as humanly possible..

Yates did  not have magical properties unique to him.

He did not look any worse on film than anyone else did.

of course those quotes matter.

especially when you say yates is overated, didnt deserve to win, shawn was in better shape, or what ever RETARTED (that's for you pumpster) comment you made.


the fact that you've been proven wrong so many times (about 4 times as many as yates beat coleman) you're saying now that the issue is whose best is the best.

too late.  you've made too many stupid remarks with no evidence or support and will continue to proven wrong.

[NeoSeminole]

I see a desperate pathetic and incorrect excuse for the fact peak Ronnie owns dorian in most of the comparisons.

what's amusing is the same people who said Dorian looks better in person also saw Ronnie compete. Guess what? They still picked Ronnie as the greatest bodybuilder of all-time. ND is too stupid to realize this.

[IceCold]

what's amusing is the same people who said Dorian looks better in person also saw Ronnie compete. Guess what? They still picked Ronnie as the greatest bodybuilder of all-time. ND is too stupid to realize this.

some did, some didnt.

if you posted the entire article from MD, instead of only posting the quotes about ronnie.

but you dont have those quotes.

how conveinent.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and the same is not true of Ronnie or anyone else?

 

Cut the crap with this 'dorian has magical properties that no one else has' argument.

it is stupid, wrong and total bullshit.

and, as ND would say, a total fallacy, faulty logic and weak to boot.

 

Its no wonder everyone looks at the cold hard evidence and says ronnie is better.

you guys have no idea what the fuck you are doing

I've never once read that quote attributed to Ronnie ANYWHERE and I have a lot of magazines if you can find the quote share it 

and its ' stupid , wrong and total bullshit ' lmfao ( see meltdown)

[IceCold]

Its no wonder everyone looks at the cold hard evidence and says ronnie is better.

you guys have no idea what the fuck you are doing

you mean your poll with people like yourself - claiming to be more knowledgable than mcgough and pumpster voting.

lmao.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I see a desperate pathetic and incorrect excuse for the fact peak Ronnie owns dorian in most of the comparisons.
 

get a real argument for a change, one that actually has some concrete evidence going for it..
 

concrete evidence is eyewitness testimony , and I have more than one source stating specifically Dorian isn't as good on film and video as in person , and most say he's 10 times better in person , your opinion is based off of faulty biased slanted comparisons , your conclusion was reached inaccurately your biased opinions is NOT evidence and those pathetic comparisons are most certainly NOT evidence .

[NarcissisticDeity]

gee, how fucking convienient..

you really will say anything to avoid the REALITY that Ronnie is better, won't you?

this is retarded.

when dorian gets owned and experts agree, you say it is wrong.

when dorian gets owned you say its because he 'looks bad on film'..

can you see a fucking pattern here? 


I am done with this thread if this is what you have to resort to.

its stupid.

Dorian was no different than anyone else.

EVERYONE looks better up close and in person than in a magazine pic.

Why don't you go to a board that is more pro Yates and anti ronnie?

oh wait, there are none...

meltdown 4  and don't let the door hit you on the way out !!

[NarcissisticDeity]

what's amusing is the same people who said Dorian looks better in person also saw Ronnie compete. Guess what? They still picked Ronnie as the greatest bodybuilder of all-time. ND is too stupid to realize this.

So people say Ronnie is the best NOT all and its okay its an opinion they only opinions who matter are the judges 

[IceCold]

So people say Ronnie is the best NOT all and its okay its an opinion they only opinions who matter are the judges 

what about the politics?

i guess weider paid those guys as well to say ronnie was great.

lol.

[pumpster]

to this day i still think dorian winning any olympia is a crock of shit

hahahahahahah Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last few decades, not Haney or Yates with 14 Olympia "wins"/backroom deals between them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what about the politics?

i guess weider paid those guys as well to say ronnie was great.

lol.

See its so easy to trap these guys in their own bullshit , Ronnie is a great bodybuilder he has 8 Olympias most pro wins but these guys scoff at the idea of Dorian even stands a chance lol to much Muscular Development propganda drilled into their heads

[IceCold]

See its so easy to trap these guys in their own bullshit , Ronnie is a great bodybuilder he has 8 Olympias most pro wins but these guys scoff at the idea of Dorian even stands a chance lol to much Muscular Development propganda drilled into their heads

ronnie has the most wins, but he's also competed since 92 and has the most losses of any top pro.

[IceCold]

See its so easy to trap these guys in their own bullshit

no wonder hulkster has meltdowns - he tries to make a point about ronnie thinking he did, but the same exact logic can be applied to dorian.

lol.

he knows this and forces him to meltdown.

1 example - the polls online count, but not the ones in the mags.

i guess pumpster finally read the 4 threads last week bashing him - hilarious.

see ya.

[IceCold]

hahahahahahah Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last few decades, not Haney or Yates with 14 Olympia "wins"/backroom deals between them.

how many olympia's does flex have?

who in 1993 called yates "untouchable".

get back to your dump and clean those walls. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ronnie has the most wins, but he's also competed since 92 and has the most losses of any top pro.

exactly Ronnie has like a 42% win/loss ratio and Dorian 88% win/loss ratio , Dorian never once in his career placed below 2nd thats unheard of and these guys think Dorian would be lucky to stand next to Ronnie lol Dorian was a winning machine , from a statistic standpoint Yates in the favorite

[NarcissisticDeity]

no wonder hulkster has meltdowns - he tries to make a point about ronnie thinking he did, but the same exact logic can be applied to dorian.

lol.

he knows this and forces him to meltdown.

1 example - the polls online count, but not the ones in the mags.

i guess pumpster finally read the 4 threads last week bashing him - hilarious.

see ya.

lol he doesn't know what he's talking about ( seriously ) and when he thinks he made a point it gets addressed , corrected and dismissed , he keeps trying different angles and he's failed to make any inroads lol he's said three times already he's done with this thread , I mean shut up and be done with it already.

[IceCold]

hahahahahahah Wheeler was the 2nd best BB of the last few decades, not Haney or Yates with 14 Olympia "wins"/backroom deals between them.

another example of to prove you wrong:

shawn ray, with 2 pro wins (1 with a DQ) is considered one of the best ever.

[Hulkster]

meltdown 4  and don't let the door hit you on the way out !!

wow. great retort.

can you now see that your posts have absolutely no concrete proof or substance to them?

instead of trying to refute me point for point (which you cannot do)

you just say 'meltdown'.

ND, go home to ironage.

[IceCold]

wow. great retort.

can you now see that your posts have absolutely no concrete proof or substance to them?

instead of trying to refute me point for point (which you cannot do)

you just say 'meltdown'.

ND, go home to ironage.

posting quotes from judges and mcgough dont count.

 

lol.