Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[JediKnight]

Ronnie > Dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie > Dorian.

lmfao kid go away , come back when you have something . 

[JediKnight]

I got your attention. Dorian had less muscle than Ronnie. Ronnie was superior. My proof: Look at the guy. He is the best Mr.O so far in the history. Arguing with you wont matter, you know Ronnie is better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I got your attention. Dorian had less muscle than Ronnie. Ronnie was superior. My proof: Look at the guy. He is the best Mr.O so far in the history. Arguing with you wont matter, you know Ronnie is better. I am sorry your sick.

Well I like to entertain other people's opinions , and FYI more muscle isn't the only thing that wins contests , if you weren't so ignorant you'd know this , and your opinion isn't proof , typical Coleman fan " Ronnie is better just look at the pics " and I'm sorry you're ignorant and it would be " I am sorry you're sick " not your sick , I hope this helps. 

[JediKnight]

Dorian had freaky muscle. This guy had lots of muscle and it was freaky. He had a great back. But Ronnie took it to the next level. His back is far superior to Dorian. Dont get me wrong, Dorain was freaky, and had incredible muscle mass and when you saw the guy he was a freak, but when Ronnie is in his best freakiest shape ever, you cannot honestly believe Dorian is superior to Ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian had freaky muscle. This guy had lots of muscle and it was freaky. He had a great back. But Ronnie took it to the next level. His back is far superior to Dorian. Dont get me wrong, Dorain was freaky, and had incredible muscle mass and when you saw the guy he was a freak, but when Ronnie is in his best freakiest shape ever, you cannot honestly believe Dorian is superior to Ronnie.

lmfao at the overuse of the term freaky and your assessment Ronnie's back is far superior nevermind superior is a gross overstatement typical of stary-eyed Coleman fans , learn before you type , please or run the risk of looking stupid ( another Coleman-fan trait )

[Hulkster]

ND is sick. and stupid. and delusional. and incapable of learning. and critical thinking. and understanding philosophy. and reading comprehension and...

lol

he has no clue.

like I said before, he just doesn't understand this sport.

its too mentally challenging for him..lol

[Hulkster]

Instead of telling me I'm wrong prove that I'm wrong

irony alert.

here you have a guy who in order to prove that dorian is better does nothing but post 12 year old quotes that have no relevance what so ever to a direct comparison with peak Ronnie coleman and he is telling someone ELSE to show him that he wrong..

 

ND, everyone has been showing that you have been wrong for months now.

its you who avoids the direct comparisons:

words on a page mean nothing in this sport.

its visual comparisons that matter.

it is the ESSENCE of competitive bodybuilding.

[Hulkster]

Narcissistic Deity = Self Loving Idiot

fixed.

[haider]

words on a page mean nothing in this sport.

its visual comparisons that matter.

it is the ESSENCE of competitive bodybuilding.

beautifully said, I'm tired of these so-called intellectuals trying to TELL us who looks better when the truth is clearly seen in the comparison pics  Wankers like I said, wankers... mental masturbators.

[Hulkster]

beautifully said, I'm tired of these so-called intellectuals trying to TELL us who looks better when the truth is clearly seen in the comparison pics 

exactly.

since ND has been back he avoids the 93 vs 99 screecaps like the plague and posts long winded posts with quote after quote that having nothing to do with the comparison between dorian and ronnie.

this is why he comes across as being stupid.

he does not understand what is relevent to an argument and what is not.

he also has no concept of how to support an argument either.

this sport is about visual comparisons.

if you want to add support and strengthen your stance, this is where you do it.

not by quotes.

this is not a blind man's sport.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

beautifully said, I'm tired of these so-called intellectuals trying to TELL us who looks better when the truth is clearly seen in the comparison pics  Wankers like I said, wankers... mental masturbators.

First of all jackass no one is telling you who looks better , I'm telling you Yates meets the criteria better than Ronnie , again your personal opinion doesn't count as truth or evidence , learn this.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND is sick. and stupid. and delusional. and incapable of learning. and critical thinking. and understanding philosophy. and reading comprehension and...

lol

he has no clue.

like I said before, he just doesn't understand this sport.

its too mentally challenging for him..lol

meltdown4 

[JediKnight]

Deity,,,Everyone keeps proving it to you and you are to stupid to reliaze that.Open your eyes you idiot.

[NeoSeminole]

One look at your slanted comparison verifies I'm not wrong, Dorian' waist is much narrower than Ronnie's in your comparison and thats not reality no matter how you slice it

there's no need to lie, ND. Dorian's waist is not "much narrower" in my comparison. I just measured the difference in waist size and got 2 mm, which translates into 0.98" in real life. So much for your sensationalized claim. Furthermore, Ronnie's hips are narrower than Dorian's. This proves you don't know the difference between "waist" and "hips." Waist size can change; hips cannot. Ronnie's waist became significantly wider after he gained 30 lbs. The top pic is from 99 when he weighed 257 lbs. The bottom one is from 03 when he weighed 287 lbs.

Again large calves I can post pics of Ronnie's calves 2003 NOT looking so large compared to Jay , nevermind Dorian and Jay is known for his large calves in todays circles not yesterdays , in a best calves thread how many times does Jay's name come up? zero

irrelevant babble since we are purely discussing size rather than quality. Jay's calves easily measure over 20" which you have long argued that Ronnie's don't exceed, yet here we have visual evidence they do.

and besides that in your slanted comparison Ronnie's calves are clearly bigger or at the least comparable thats not reality no matter how you slice it , you tried to justify your bullshit claim by ' measuring ' both calves lmfao all the while leaving out part of Ronnie's calf ( soleus ) because you claim most people would count that lmfao again most of Ronnie's weight gain in 03 was quads , abdomen , and glutes and his soft back , not his calves so go back to the drawing board

there you go again with your false sensationalized claims to make your argument look as though it has merit. "Ronnie's calves are clearly bigger." Give me a break, you pathetic dipshit! Dorian's calves in my comparison are actually wider by a hair.

No this is a more accurate comparison than your garbage and why? he's still shorter than Ronnie and he isn't being made to look like a middleweight

how is this an accurate comparison when Jay is 2" shorter than Ronnie in person?



these are better pics to show the actual difference in size.

[NarcissisticDeity]

irony alert.

here you have a guy who in order to prove that dorian is better does nothing but post 12 year old quotes that have no relevance what so ever to a direct comparison with peak Ronnie coleman and he is telling someone ELSE to show him that he wrong..

 

ND, everyone has been showing that you have been wrong for months now.

its you who avoids the direct comparisons:

words on a page mean nothing in this sport.

its visual comparisons that matter.

it is the ESSENCE of competitive bodybuilding.

Wrong , wrong and Oh more wrong 

Wrong 1

Dorian's quote is from 2005

Wrong 2

Dorian specifically stated he has better balance & condition when directly compared to Ronnie 

Wrong 3

The essence of bodybuilding is direct comparisons LIVE and in the flesh , most certainly not with slanted picture comparisons made by biased Yates-haters

What you're really saying if you have no way to prove your argument so you wont even try , you'll leave it to inaccurate means and slanted comparisons and hope that a bunch of people agree because thats validation ( see argument ad populum ) 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Deity,,,Everyone keeps proving it to you and you are to stupid to reliaze that.Open your eyes you idiot.

They've proved zero , only their ignorance. 

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie doesn't look so super human here does he? and he's not dwarfing Cutler like he is Yates in your comparison

uggh, it's like arguing with a retard. You chose a pic where even 5'8" Dennis James is just as tall as 5'11" Ronnie. No shit Ronnie isn't dwarfing anyone b/c he standing farther away from the camera.

[NarcissisticDeity]

there's no need to lie, ND. Dorian's waist is not "much narrower" in my comparison. I just measured the difference in waist size and got 2 mm, which translates into 0.98" in real life. So much for your sensationalized claim. Furthermore, Ronnie's hips are narrower than Dorian's. This proves you don't know the difference between "waist" and "hips." Waist size can change; hips cannot. Ronnie's waist became significantly wider after he gained 30 lbs. The top pic is from 99 when he weighed 257 lbs. The bottom one is from 03 when he weighed 287 lbs.


irrelevant babble since we are purely discussing size rather than quality. Jay's calves easily measure over 20" which you have long argued that Ronnie's don't exceed, yet here we have visual evidence they do.



there you go again with your false sensationalized claims to make your argument look as though it has merit. "Ronnie's calves are clearly bigger." Give me a break, you pathetic dipshit! Dorian's calves in my comparison are actually wider by just a hair.

there's no need to lie, ND. Dorian's waist is not "much narrower" in my comparison. I just measured the difference in waist size and got 2 mm, which translates into 0.98" in real life. So much for your sensationalized claim. Furthermore, Ronnie's hips are narrower than Dorian's. This proves you don't know the difference between "waist" and "hips." Waist size can change; hips cannot. Ronnie's waist became significantly wider after he gained 30 lbs. The top pic is from 99 when he weighed 257 lbs. The bottom one is from 03 when he weighed 287 lbs.

I was being like you people melodramatic , its noticeably narrower , and again spare me the ' you measured it ' bullshit , you measured a slanted comparison YOU created its retarded your measurements and comparisons are useless and I most certainly know the difference between hips & waist , unlike you who didn't think there was a difference between balance & proportion , it common sense and your comparison is worthless for the already mentioned faults , keep iceskating uphill defending your ' comparison ' because it needs it

irrelevant babble since we are purely discussing size rather than quality. Jay's calves easily measure over 20" which you have long argued that Ronnie's don't exceed, yet here we have visual evidence they do.

You don't know what Jay's calves measure thats a guesstimate on your part , spare us your critique on Ronnie's size by proxy , hey better yet just measure them lmfao

there you go again with your false sensationalized claims to make your argument look as though it has merit. "Ronnie's calves are clearly bigger." Give me a break, you pathetic dipshit! Dorian's calves in my comparison are actually wider by just a hair.

See melodramatic Coleman fans for ' sensationlized cliams ' and again Ronnie's calf size isn't comparable to Dorian's no matter what Ronnie weighs and they do appear smaller in your comparison

You comparison sucks , Ronnie would NOT make Yates look like a middleweight , NO ONE DID reguardless of what you fantasize about , Ronnie 287 pounds , big deal Nasser was 285 and fell by the wayside as well

And that pic of Jay did you take into consideration his hair? Ronnie is bald and Jay has the Hitler-Youth haircut sticking up again your comparison is false , Ronnie 03 wouldn't make Dorian look like a middleweight

[NarcissisticDeity]

Again Ronnie wouldn't be dwarfing Yates like in your comparison , period . 

[Hulkster]

The essence of bodybuilding is direct comparisons LIVE and in the flesh , most certainly not with slanted picture comparisons made by biased Yates-haters

yes, they are so slanted..

what a fucking idiot.

you are being owned by everyone now..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie 2003 was Seven-feet-tall and weighed 1300 pounds with legs the size of skyscrapers and calves the size of Dorian's quads lmfao you gullible MD believing child

Shawn Ray on the 2004 Mr Olympia where Ronnie was even BIGGER than 2003

From where I sat, in certain poses you would never know Dexter was giving up 70lbs to Ronnie

Ronnie ( in some poses ) couldn't dwarf a 225 pound Dexter Jackson , but he's going to do it to a 260 pound Dorian Yates , lmfao what school of logic to you attend?

a 275 Paul Dillett and a 317 Pound Lou Ferrigno couldn't dwarf a 257 pound Dorian but a 287 Pound Ronnie can , keep defending that abortion called a ' fairly accurate ' compariosn ' Neo because you really need too .

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, they are so slanted..

what a fucking idiot.

you are being owned by everyone now..

Stop making empty claims , you , Neo , iceman and pumpster have yet to counter my argument , you haveing owned anything at all , see density , see balance & proportion , see conditioning and then see Dorian Yates 

[NeoSeminole]

I was being like you people melodramatic , its noticeably narrower

no, it's not. The difference in waist size is only 2 mm which would translate into less than 1" in real life. If we measure their hips (the part that doesn't change), we find that Ronnie's are still narrower in the comparison. This fits what we can reasonably expect.

You don't know what Jay's calves measure thats a guesstimate on your part , spare us your critique on Ronnie's size by proxy , hey better yet just measure them lmfao

don't play these stupid childish games, ND. It's safe to say Jay's calves measure over 20". I never claimed an exact measurement for them.

You comparison sucks , Ronnie would NOT make Yates look like a middleweight , NO ONE DID reguardless of what you fantasize about , Ronnie 287 pounds , big deal Nasser was 285 and fell by the wayside as well

yawn.

[NeoSeminole]

hey ND, since you love quotes so much here are some for you to digest.

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Dorian Yates - Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”