And Hulkster you keep making blanket statements like Dorian only wins the ab-thigh and front latspread and you refuse to acknowledge that Dorian has clear advantages in ALL MANDATORY poses compared to Ronnie advantages in balance & proportion , conditioning and density , posing and presentation it doesn't matter ho strong Ronnie may appear in a pose when you consider all of the judging criteria and base it as the judges do , remember ALL ROUNDS are physique rounds so every criteria is applied in everypose
So while Ronnie has an advantage in part of the symmetry , with a small waist & hips and smaller joints he still lags behind in balance & proportion , density and conditioning and posing and depending on the year bulk and recall they don't judge symmetry as a separate and distinct entity in the symmetry round , the same with the muscularity round and posing rounds , which is exactly why Cutler beat Ronnie in 2001 in the whole prejudging despite not being as detailed , or having a better taper or smaller hips & waist or smaller joints and even a better back , and its exactly why Dorian would beat Ronnie especially in 1999 he's down to much to recover .
