Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

I mean, look at the density of Ronnies delts in the above shot.

he is so dense he is just standing there and his delts are cut!

[bizzy]

I've made a few lighting adjustments to make everyone look better.

The first pic shows why Dorian had Ronnie in any side triceps pose.

The 2nd pic shows why I think 99 Prejudging Ronnie is the best of all time.

The 3rd pic shows why Ron thinks anyone smokes crack if they think they were
denser than him.

It's late...more to come later....

[RocketSwitch625]

Nice pictures of Yates hitting the side chest and Spazman hitting the side biceps. Learn how to pose son.

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Yeah, Rocketfuel, but both are infinitely better than your avatar pic of yourself hitting the classic 'Ram-Man from Masters of the Universe' pose.

Who stole your neck? You gonna call the police?


TNBT

[RocketSwitch625]

Yeah, Rocketfuel, but both are infinitely better than your avatar pic of yourself hitting the classic 'Ram-Man from Masters of the Universe' pose.

Who stole your neck? You gonna call the police?


TNBT

Still better than your smooth fatty legs and Internet forum bullshite. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. LOL

P.S. Why don't you post a pic of you and Dorian Yates together? Now go eat your porridge you Scotch wanker.

[NarcissisticDeity]

we have been saying this for 1400+ pages now.

the nuthuggers go on about dorian's density without realizing that he was surpassed in this department by Ronnie 99.

its not 93 anymore, as you can clearly see:

Another Hulkster LIE no you haven't been saying Ronnie has had better density than Yates for 1400+ pages you're once again full of shit . you being the ignorant fuck you are didn't even KNOW what density was until I posted the definition and that wasn't until recently , just like you didn't ( and still don't ) know the judging criteria stop trying to act like you were right all along because its a flat out lie and its wrong ontop of being a lie

Ronnie perhaps matched Dorian for density on two occasions 1998 and 2001 and he was under 250 at both of them , Dorian was as high as 270 with outstanding density and that was consistent from year to year NOT hit or miss like Coleman , when Ronnie gets really dry and really hard he gets small ( relatively ) but he looks so much better for it and its part of the judging criteria , the bigger Ronnie got , the less dense he got and the more water he carried notice McGough commenting on this FACT and see the pic for McGough stating the obvious once again the bigger Ronnie got the less density & detail he got

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


Oh and please learn what density is before commenting on it

Density - Muscle hardness, which is also related to muscu-lar definition. A bodybuilder can be well-defined and still have excess fat within each major muscle complex. But when he has muscle density, even this intramuscular fat has been eliminated. A combination of muscle mass and muscle density is highly prized among all competitive bodybuilders.

[Hulkster]

Another Hulkster LIE no you haven't been saying Ronnie has had better density than Yates for 1400+ pages you're once again full of shit

go back to the beginning of the thread retard.

we have been arguing and SHOWING  with visuals that dorian is soft and puffy in many shots compared to Ronnie.

why the fuck do you think we have been calling him DOUGHIAN:

top pic is density personified.

bottom pic is dough personified.

[Hulkster]

LOL ND does not have a clue what density is:

[Hulkster]

soft and puffy is NOT density.

dry ripped muscle is:

[The Next BIG Thing!]

Hulkster, Chaos just said something to me on another thread about an imbalance in Coleman's shoulders.

Interesting. In that pic below, his right deltoids look like half a huge cantalope (sp?) but the left cantalope looks like it's been out in the sun too long.

See?



TNBT

[Hulkster]

hmmm. hard to say, they look pretty even in most shots:

[Hulkster]

hahaha ND is going to hate this.

Since we all know ND picks and choses which quotes to believe, selectively ignoring those that favor Ronnie or put down dorian, here is a quote from page 43 of the january 94 Musclemag:

Ripped - when defined as ultra striated deep and surface muscle - perhaps stands alone as the pinnacle of muscle conditioning..

like we have been saying: ultra striated and ripped Ronnie 99 shows better conditioning than dorian who lacks these attributes to the same degree..

the review of the 93 olympia also went on to point out that:

only the more massive andreas munzer and the lighterAykutlu could match the shredded shawn and lee

NOTICE: according to the eyewitness account:

Shawn Ray, Lee Labrada, Andreas Munzer AND Hambullah Aykutlu were ALL IN BETTER CONDITION THAN DORIAN YATES AT THE 93 OLYMPIA..

hahaha so much for the bullshit aobut dorian being the standard for conditioning! hahaha

hahahaa OWNED:

lets wait and see how ND piles on the excuses for this one:

dorian cannot match Ronnie in terms of conditioning.

hahaha

ND: you can fill in your excuses and pathetic attempts to discredit the quote below:

[Hulkster]

the countdown to the excuses is on!

even though any fool can see dorian cannot match peak ronnie in terms of ultra ripped striated conditioning:

[Necrosis]

this whole thread is a joke, its fucking clear as day that ronnie is killing dorian.

there is nothing to argue, every shot posted ronnie is more detailed, seperated, dense, etc etc etc etc..

he is just a better bodybuilder, bodybuilding evolves get over it.

to argue that dorian was better then a peak ronnie is laughable, theres really no comparison. there is in their backs. ronnie destroys him on arms, detail, quads, hams, delts, chest and i would say back as well.

[Hulkster]

this whole thread is a joke, its fucking clear as day that ronnie is killing dorian.

there is nothing to argue, every shot posted ronnie is more detailed, seperated, dense, etc etc etc etc..

he is just a better bodybuilder, bodybuilding evolves get over it.

to argue that dorian was better then a peak ronnie is laughable, theres really no comparison. there is in their backs. ronnie destroys him on arms, detail, quads, hams, delts, chest and i would say back as well.

well said.

cue the excuses and denials from ND..

it ain't even close.

[Iceman1981]

  What a fucking joke! Your copmparisons are garbage. Why? Because you didn't control for scale either for depth or height, you chose pics where they are under different lighting and with different contrast from the cameras. I mean, give me a fucking break! At least SemenHole's comparisons were scaled for height and he chose pics with more or less imilar contrast. He didn't scale for width and he photoshopped some bodyparts, but at least his comparisosn had one or two merits - yours have none.

  Oh, I do have an argument! You mistook what I said and thought that I claimed that there are more quotes saying that Dorian is the greatest bodybuilder ever than there are quotes saying this about Ronnie. I never said such thing. The word "dominant" refers to how each bodybuilder faired against their respective competitors. What I meant by saying that Dorian was more dominant was that the distance between him and his competitors was greater than the distance between Ronnie and his at most of their respective contests. Dorian won 5 of his 6 olympias with straight-firsts scores, compared to ronnie who only won 4 out of 8 with straight-firsts. So who was a more dominant Mr.Olympia? answer: not Ronnie!


  First of all, you stupid idiot, I never denied that there were more quotes stating that Ronnie is the greatest Mr.Olympia ever; what I claimed is that Dorian was more dominant, which is not open to debate since Dorian has more straight-firsts wins than Ronnie even though he won less Olympias!

  Secondly, there is a difference between McGough's quote that Dorian is the most conditioned ever and that ronnie at this best is unbeatable. The difference? The word "ever". McGough said flat out that "no bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows". Conversely, when he said that Ronnie would be unbeatable, he could be saying that he would be unbeatable by any bodybuilders who ever stepped onstage, or only by his current crop of competitors. We'll never know, and here's where you get owned, dumbass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

LOL, can anyone believe this moron? He types his bullshyt and thinks he owns someone. The comparisons are as close as they can be. Stop whining. You keep saying the same shyt over and over. Get over it.

Since Ronnie became an 8 Time Mr. O champ, post 5 quotes stating that yates is the best bodybuilder of All-Time. Well if yates was so dominant, post some quotes from bodybuilders, experts, writers, judges, photographers etc. stating that he was. That's all you have to do to prove me wrong. I have many stating that Ronnie is the most dominant.

8 Mr. O titles,
Most contest wins ever
Most contest wins in a row
4 physiques considered the greatest (Mr. O 98, 99, 03, ASC 01, which I have quotes for)
You can't counter this. Now shut up and go back into your hole.

So now Peter's quote only means for Ronnie's time? LOL, you' are a complete joke. Everyone knows (even ND) that Peter's quote means "All-Time". Stop trying to change things you incompetent fool. If yates was so good and "unbeatable", he would of said it, but he said it about Ronnie. Peter specifically speaks about yates and Ronnie in the same damn sentence, but yet he mentioned Ronnie as unbeatable, not yates. Here is the exact quote moron (Note that this quote is from 2005):

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack."

LOL, you're quick to claim you owned someone, where in fact you just got OWNED.

[Iceman1981]

he is just a better bodybuilder, bodybuilding evolves get over it.

Well dorian said it himself:

Dorian yates states at the 2000 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:

Mike Mattarazo: "Do you see anybody up there you can compare yourself to muscle mass and muscular density?"

Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."

"Things are always progressing. People say to me, Dorian you are incredible, I've never seen a physique bigger and better. Hey, Of course you will. Things never stand still." (Note: Ronnie Mr. O 1998, 1999, 2003 & ASC 2001)

[Hulkster]

Well dorian said it himself:

Dorian yates states at the 2000 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:

Mike Mattarazo: "Do you see anybody up there you can compare yourself to muscle mass and muscular density?"

Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."

"Things are always progressing. People say to me, Dorian you are incredible, I've never seen a physique bigger and better. Hey, Of course you will. Things never stand still." (Note: Ronnie Mr. O 1998, 1999, 2003 & ASC 2001)

exactly.

even yates can see that ronnie's proportions were fantastic, and much better than his own:

you can clearly see the barrel torso with the undersized arms, whereas Ronnie's proportions are great:

[Mons Venus]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ   old retired bobybuilders who look like shhit.

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly.

even yates can see that ronnie's proportions were fantastic, and much better than his own:

you can clearly see the barrel torso with the undersized arms, whereas Ronnie's proportions are great:

Oh Ronnie's proportions were great his BALANCE & PROPORTIONS aren't great and they aren't on Dorian's level  how well are his calves in proportion with his quads? great Ummm I don't think so , How well are his forearms proportioned to his biceps/triceps? Great Ummm I don't think so , how well are his overdeveloped glutes in proportion with his entire physique? great? Ummmm I don't think so


Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

Interview with David Robson

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?

      Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.


      One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.

Notice the refference to Ronnie a whole lot of parts thrown together? anyone who thinks Ronnie has better balance & proportion is high or better conditioning & density

[Hulkster]

who the fuck cares what Lee Priest thinks when there are a million other pros, insiders, fans, and writers who believe the opposite?

you cling to lee's quote for dear life because he is pretty much the only pro in existance who actually believes dorian would win..

 

[Hulkster]

hahaha ND is going to hate this.

Since we all know ND picks and choses which quotes to believe, selectively ignoring those that favor Ronnie or put down dorian, here is a quote from page 43 of the january 94 Musclemag:

like we have been saying: ultra striated and ripped Ronnie 99 shows better conditioning than dorian who lacks these attributes to the same degree..

the review of the 93 olympia also went on to point out that:

NOTICE: according to the eyewitness account:

Shawn Ray, Lee Labrada, Andreas Munzer AND Hambullah Aykutlu were ALL IN BETTER CONDITION THAN DORIAN YATES AT THE 93 OLYMPIA..

hahaha so much for the bullshit aobut dorian being the standard for conditioning! hahaha

hahahaa OWNED:

lets wait and see how ND piles on the excuses for this one:

dorian cannot match Ronnie in terms of conditioning.

hahaha

ND: you can fill in your excuses and pathetic attempts to discredit the quote below:

ND selectively ignores this..

 

[Hulkster]

this whole thread is a joke, its fucking clear as day that ronnie is killing dorian.

there is nothing to argue, every shot posted ronnie is more detailed, seperated, dense, etc etc etc etc..

he is just a better bodybuilder, bodybuilding evolves get over it.

to argue that dorian was better then a peak ronnie is laughable, theres really no comparison. there is in their backs. ronnie destroys him on arms, detail, quads, hams, delts, chest and i would say back as well.

and this excellent summary of pretty much the entire thread...

 

[RocketSwitch625]

exactly.

even yates can see that ronnie's proportions were fantastic, and much better than his own:

you can clearly see the barrel torso with the undersized arms, whereas Ronnie's proportions are great:

Look at Yates' traps almost touching his ears. Coleman's traps are lower down and his neck is long and skinny. Coleman more dense than Yates? My arse. LOL

[Hulkster]

Look at Yates' traps almost touching his ears. Coleman's traps are lower down and his neck is long and skinny. Coleman more dense than Yates? My arse. LOL

yeah, and notice how one trap is twice as big as the other..

symmetry, balance and proportion goes out the fucking window..

LOL

and don't even start with traps.

ronnie has traps that dorian would have killed for: