Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

once again, you hide behind the most muscular.

you never show any front shots to show ronnie's bad structure, gyno, abs, etc.

Hey genius..

Tonite's Pro BB Weekly:

Chick, Dan and McGough concurring on Coleman as the best BB in history

bwhahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/radioarchive.htm

[realkarateblackbelt]

Dorian, in my opinion, had the best ab-thigh pose in the history of the sport.
What makes it more amazing is his size. He looks more shredded than guys 50 pounds lighter.
His freaky mass adds to the "wow" factor.

[Dballn247]

like I said, dorian's quads could not even compare...just like his arms.

I think they compete. They actually look better.

[Iceman1981]

Peter McGough Flex Magazine Sept 2005

On July 4, I found myself in conversation with Lou Ferrigno. No, we weren't talking about Paul Revere and Mad King George; instead, with the 2005 Olympia Weekend looming like a Ronnie Coleman lat spread, the Hulk wanted to know who I thought was the best-ever Mr. Olympia. My response was that it was impossible to choose. All any athlete--in any sport--can do is become the best in his era, and it is futile to try to compare champions from different eras.

My response was that it was impossible to choose.

nice attempt, but try again.

[Iceman1981]

No you'd be right lol he has always been a collection of parts his body always lacked out standing balance & proportion

Not according to yates:

Dorian yates [/b] states at the 2000 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:

Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."

[pumpster]

Dorian, in my opinion, had the best ab-thigh pose in the history of the sport.
What makes it more amazing is his size. He looks more shredded than guys 50 pounds lighter.
His freaky mass adds to the "wow" factor.

Yup, then you look at the arms and realize how much it hurt him.

[Shockwave]

I think they compete. They actually look better.

I agree.
I like Dorians legs much better.
But to each their own.

[Mons Venus]

You said something similar recently.

You tired of this thread, Venus? What gets you going then?


TNBT

Usually CURRENT events and fitness chicks ! 

[suckmymuscle]

Hey buddy, are you this dumb or just acting dumb? Peter's quote was in 2005. You see that?, 2005

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

I'll explain this for the final/last time. It's simple to understand what Peter means if you have a brain. The quote was made in 2005. He was talking about yates 1993 and Ronnie ASC 2001. Knowing this, he states that the best physique he ever saw onstage was Ronnie (ASC 01"). He says "Unbeatable" in the same damn sentence when talking about yates. Since we all know that bodybuilding contests are judged on stage (I hope that you know that) and not in a gym wearing black socks, it is as clear as day that Peter is talking about "Ronnie ASC 01" beating any previous physique to 2005 because the damn quote was made in 2005.

You're the only guy arguing against this quote. That should tell you something right there if the rest of your side is quiet about it.  

Why waste my time responding to the rest of your previous post when all you type is bullshyt? Our argument is on what Peter said and that's what I'm sticking to.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.”

You all should listen to Peter since he knows what he is talking bout. Any argument against that quote is just straight up biased. Since all of you love to pick and choose Peter's quotes, I suggest you read that one. Either accept all of Peters quotes or none at all. His quotes are in line with my argument. Too bad for the yates side.


Now that's what you call being OWNED

  No, you completely misread what McGough meant to say. He said that both Ronnie and Dorian were contenders for the tilte of best physiques ever, but that one was seen onstage and the other offstage. He said that Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique was the best he saw onstage. Get it, you bumb fuck? And the reason why he said Ronnie 2001 ASC physique would be unbeatable is because, like you said it yourself, contests are judged onstage so the only physiques that can be compared for the title of best ever are those that appeared onstage. This means that, although Dorian's physique as seen in those famous black-and-white pics would challenge Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique as best ever, it is not in the running because only physiques that appeared onstage count. You claimed an ownage too soon, sport, and I turned it around and kicked your ass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[IceCold]

Hey genius..

Tonite's Pro BB Weekly:

Chick, Dan and McGough concurring on Coleman as the best BB in history

bwhahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha


so you only acknowledge PM's opinion when in suits you.

i wonder what PM's take on a bowflex is.


hahahah.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/radioarchive.htm

[Iceman1981]

  No, you completely misread what McGough meant to say. He said that both Ronnie and Dorian were contenders for the tilte of best physiques ever, but that one was seen onstage and the other offstage. He said that Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique was the best he saw onstage. Get it, you bumb fuck? And the reason why he said Ronnie 2001 ASC physique would be unbeatable is because, like you said it yourself, contests are judged onstage so the only physiques that can be compared for the title of best ever are those that appeared onstage. This means that, although Dorian's physique as seen in those famous black-and-white pics would challenge Ronnie's 2001 ASC physique as best ever, it is not in the running because only physiques that appeared onstage count. You claimed an ownage too soon, sport, and I turned it around and kicked your ass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I have stated what you just said in my previous posts. It takes you 3 days to realize this? LOL. A five year old would of understood what Peter meant the first time he/she read the quote. You must feel real stupid right now since you are the only one arguing against this quote. Now your trying to save face from looking like a moron, LOL.

What exactly did you turn around? Show us all what you turned around? LOL. I owned your stupid ass since my first post about this quote. What part of the words "in bold" don't you understand?

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

“Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage ....

[IceCold]

for over a year, anything mcgough said was ridiculed bd his ties to yates.

now, that he says something about ronnie, you clowns will not stop posting his words.

tycpical.

what's next - post the worst pics of yates you can find to altered digital pics of ronnie.

oh, that already happened. 

[Iceman1981]

for over a year, anything mcgough said was ridiculed bd his ties to yates.

now, that he says something about ronnie, you clowns will not stop posting his words.

tycpical.

what's next - post the worst pics of yates you can find to altered digital pics of ronnie.

oh, that already happened. 

I don't know about what other people said about Peter, but I have never said anything negative towards Peter and his opinions.

Just listen to PBW last night. Peter says that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of All-Time and that the best physique he ever saw was Ronnie ASC 01". He didn't mention yates 93/95. I'll post exactly what he stated, but for now, you can listen to it:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

Now that dumbass Sucky can't say anything about what Peter meant. 

[IceCold]

I don't know about what other people said about Peter, but I have never said anything negative towards Peter and his opinions.

Just listen to PBW last night. Peter says that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of All-Time and that the best physique he ever saw was Ronnie ASC 01". He didn't mention yates 93/95. I'll post exactly what he stated, but for now, you can listen to it:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

Now that dumbass Sucky can't say anything about what Peter meant. 

humpster and pumpster have continously ridiculed PM and only pointed to his words when it matched their point of view.

he didnt mention 93/95 yates.

PM also DID NOT mention 99 ronnie or 03 ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not according to yates:

Dorian yates [/b] states at the 2000 Mr. Olympia about Ronnie Coleman:

Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."

Yes proportions but NOT balance & proportion big difference  and where is this quote from? because Ronnie looked like shit at the 2000 Olympia huge but very soft

[NarcissisticDeity]

nice attempt, but try again.

Oh that quote counts because you need it to but this one doesn't lol great logic.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I don't know about what other people said about Peter, but I have never said anything negative towards Peter and his opinions.

Just listen to PBW last night. Peter says that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of All-Time and that the best physique he ever saw was Ronnie ASC 01". He didn't mention yates 93/95. I'll post exactly what he stated, but for now, you can listen to it:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/player.htm

Now that dumbass Sucky can't say anything about what Peter meant. 

It doesn't matter it doesn't make it true its a very subjective topic ! I mean seriously Hulkster has argued to ad nasuem that 99 is Ronnie's best showing , Neo that 2003 is Ronnie said 1998 see where this gets subjective?

[Iceman1981]

Yes proportions but NOT balance & proportion big difference  and where is this quote from? because Ronnie looked like shit at the 2000 Olympia huge but very soft

Ronnie was huge and did not look like shyt as you say. Ater all he had perfect scores. He was well conditioned, but not as good as in 98, 99. I got the quote from the 2000 Mr. O tape. yates wasn't talking about 2000 Ronnie specifically, he was talking about Ronnie in general.

Mike Mattarazo: "Do you see anybody up there you can compare yourself to muscle mass and muscular density?"

Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."

In bold "the new Mr. Olympia", (98,99). yates didn't say 2000 Ronnie.

[Iceman1981]

Oh that quote counts because you need it to but this one doesn't lol great logic.

I suggest you listen to the last PBW. That well give your answer. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie was huge and did not look like shyt as you say. Ater all he had perfect scores. He was well conditioned, but not as good as in 98, 99. I got the quote from the 2000 Mr. O tape. yates wasn't talking about 2000 Ronnie specifically, he was talking about Ronnie in general.

Mike Mattarazo: "Do you see anybody up there you can compare yourself to muscle mass and muscular density?"

Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."

In bold "the new Mr. Olympia", (98,99). yates didn't say 2000 Ronnie.

Ronnie looked like shot compared to 98 and 99 Sorry here's Kevin Levrone's thoughts on Ronnie 2000


The plain truth is that I beat Ronnie last year [2000] and Jay Cutler beat Ronnie this year. You should not win the Mr. Olympia if your stomach is hanging out -- period. Last year, I patted Ronnie's stomach during the posedown to draw attention to the fact that he was bloated. That tactic obviously didn't work, and Ronnie beat me in the posedown to successfully defend his title for a third straight Mr. O triumph.


So now the show rolls around and Jay Cutler beats Ronnie in both prejudging rounds: symmetry and muscularity. Ronnie was spilling over with too much water during the muscularity round, and Cutler took it to him in many of the poses that Coleman usually dominates.

How can Cutler lose this contest if he wins in both symmetry and muscularity? How can Ronnie retain his title if his midsection is bloated and distended? Why should the fans get behind a champion who can't present an aesthetic image of what bodybuilding is supposed to be all about?

I'm talking about classical proportions, perfect symmetry and ideal conditioning. Based on that ideal, I should have won the Sandow in 2000, and Cutler should have taken it in 2001.

The fans deserve better than what they are getting. I'm already working hard to ensure that, in 2002, a true peoples' champ can strip the title away from Ronnie Coleman.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I suggest you listen to the last PBW. That well give your answer. 

You're stuck on a subjective topic it doesn't negate Lee Priest's quote that Ronnie would lose to Yates or the Ernie Taylor quote  they're all the same opinions NOT proof .

[Iceman1981]

humpster and pumpster have continously ridiculed PM and only pointed to his words when it matched their point of view.

he didnt mention 93/95 yates.

PM also DID NOT mention 99 ronnie or 03 ronnie.

I guess you missed this part:

Dan Soloman - PBW - A Tribute to Ronnie Coleman - October 8, 2007:

"Peter, you've covered Ronnie Coleman every step of the way, In fact you've covered all of the great champions. What in your mind sets Ronnie apart from those past champions?"


Peter McGough  - PBW - A Tribute to Ronnie Coleman - October 8, 2007:

"For me the best physique I've ever seen was Ronnie at the 2001 ASC. He was about 245 pounds sliced and full. He was seperated from head to toe. After he had done his compulsaries, a large section of the crowd just left the pre-judging. For them the contest was over and then again at the other extremely fashion that 287 pounds physique at the 2003 Olympia that just blew everybody away for size and condition."

[Iceman1981]

It doesn't matter it doesn't make it true its a very subjective topic ! I mean seriously Hulkster has argued to ad nasuem that 99 is Ronnie's best showing , Neo that 2003 is Ronnie said 1998 see where this gets subjective?

This thread is about at their best. yates Mr. O 93/95 and Ronnie Mr. O 98/99/03/ASC 01. Both sides have used different years from both guys.

If it doesn't make it true, then why use quotes from Peter to prove a point, but not accept the quote about Ronnie from Peter? I've asked you this before, but you never gave an answer. I'm calling you out. Either accept all of Peter's quotes or none of them. What's your answer?

[Iceman1981]

You're stuck on a subjective topic it doesn't negate Lee Priest's quote that Ronnie would lose to Yates or the Ernie Taylor quote  they're all the same opinions NOT proof .

I have a quote from yates stating Ronnie would win. yates quote crushes anything Lee, Ernie or you has to say. You can't argue against this, so stop trying, LOL.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This thread is about at their best. yates Mr. O 93/95 and Ronnie Mr. O 98/99/03/ASC 01. Both sides have used different years from both guys.

If it doesn't make it true, then why use quotes from Peter to prove a point, but not accept the quote about Ronnie from Peter? I've asked you this before, but you never gave an answer. I'm calling you out. Either accept all of Peter's quotes or none of them. What's your answer?

Listen because you don't pay attention I use quotes to supplement my case quotes that are NOT subjective , like conditioning & balance & proportion either you're in shape or you're not either you have great balance & proportion or you don't

please don't tell me what quotes I can and can't use thats dumb I don't have to agree with everything Peter says I'll make up my own mind , and the irony is you accept the quote from McGough when he states Ronnie 2001 being unbeatable and yet dismiss the one where he said its IMPOSSIBLE to choose a best ever Mr Olympia that makes you a hypocrite plain & simple