Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pumpster]

Nasser on Yates' fixed wins that suckers like ND claim are legit:

Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.

He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.

He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".

I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.

There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.

[pumpster]

Nasser pt II

I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better build and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.

I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).

Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.

The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?

My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.

[pumpster]

Nasser pt III

Bottom line:

From the six Mr. Olympia titles Yates got, I do believe that he just deserved to win half of them.

[pumpster]

Nasser on the judges that our resident fool & IFBB shill ND puts so much faith in:

 it is about the judges. One foul apple can make them all bad. Some IFBB judges are drunk while judging, some are drug addicts, some just don't care and some are not from here and judge accordingly (to what they are told) because they are from outside the U.S. and they do not want to get into an argument with another judge because of a competitor. Otherwise they would have had their last paid trip to the U.S. And some just do not get the green light to judge again because they judged outside of the expectation circle.

I am not saying all judges are bad and oblivious, but a certain percentage of them should not be judging and do not even have a judging, or drivers, licence. Most of the IFBB pro judges are, towards me and on a one-on-one basis, polite and friendly.

But my experience of competing so far for 17 years in the pro ranks tells me otherwise when they are sitting together and judging. You can impeach the president of the U.S. but not the (pro) bodybuilding judges. You never hear them admitting a mistake or failure.

[rocket]

If Dorian had stepped onstage in the way he looked in those black-and-white pics, McGough would say it was the best physique ever.

Pure conjecture - and wrong at that.  Stage lighting on dorian in that condition and much of what was eccentuated with those well taken photos would fall by the wayside. 

Of course, I'm not going to debate that with you for 1500 pages as we'll still be in the same frame of mind a year later

[NarcissisticDeity]

Nasser on Yates' fixed wins that suckers like ND claim are legit:

Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.

He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.

He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".

I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.

There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.

Nasser on Yates' fixed wins that suckers like ND claim are legit:

Flex Wheeler came to me after the prejudging and told me backstage if I knew that they would not give me my very deserved title. I did not say too much because I hoped that he was wrong. But as we all know, Dorian Yates won the Olympia again, the very next day.

WOW Flex Wheeler told him he wasn't going to win I guess the fix was in  Flex also had Ronnie Coleman winning the whole prejudging at the 2007 Mr Olympia his opinion leaves a lot to be desired

He won despite a huge belly (looking like he was pregnant in the sixth month), a waist like a drum, a torn up left biceps, a freshly torn left triceps, a quad tear left, a quad tear right, a torn right hip.

He won it with a perfect score, which was just unbelievable. This was a completely staged outcome and the biggest bodybuilding robbery of the 20th century by the clique of judges who "judged".

Yates' gut was huge he's stating the obvious , and ironic Nasser complaining about someone's waist size because his gut is absurd ! he did win with perfect scores & torn muscles personally I don't think he should have won but that doesn't mean it was fixed , consider the source he was in second and didn't win he's bitter 10 years latter he's crying its fixed whats that tell you?

I also have to say that some judges had Dorian Yates even in third and fourth place, because about 13 judges judged officially. I think you just use seven of the score sheets. But these judges' (who scored Dorian lower) score sheets had not been used and some of the judges' had then been removed from the judging panel because they did not produce what was expected of them to produce.

Both high & low scores are tossed out this isn't anything unique to 1997 and he still won with straight firsts that means all the judges placed him first independent of each other in order to fix the contest ALL judges would have to be in cahoots again highly unlikely

There are multiple reasons why I did not win. Some judges did not want to upset their friend Dorian and they did not want him to go out of bodybuilding with a defeat after all his injuries and tears. They did not want to give another non-U.S. guy the most prestigious title in bodybuilding because it would underline the U.S. inferiority in bodybuilding compared to non-U.S. athletes.

I mean this is just pure speculation and bitterness , Nasser did well in bodybuilding but when he didn't there is always an excuse or a hidden reason Nasser in 1997 beat Yates from the front , not from the side and the back and Nasser flip flops first he wasn't winning because he was European against guys like Kevin , yet Yates won despite being European its an excuse when it suits him

[delta9mda]

yates owned nasser. nasser= bitter

[NarcissisticDeity]

Nasser pt II

I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better build and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.

I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).

Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.

The Olympia is not a lower back contest. An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?

My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.

I had, compared to 1997 Mr. Olympia title winner, Dorian Yates, the better build and the better, god given genetic structure with even nicer looking veins. I did not have one torn muscle like he had so many, many torn muscles. My body is more proportioned and more, way more symmetrical.

Nicer looking veins ? WTF? I wouldn't disagree with any of this compared to Dorian 1997 its pretty accurate

I had the better waist (also the best V-taper, shoulders/waistline), better and tighter abs, paper thin skin, better triceps, better biceps, better shoulders, better chest, better hams, and better quads. I was tighter, harder and fresher in appearance (because I did not have a couple of week-old triceps tears which had not even been attempted to have been fixed surgically, otherwise Yates wouldn't have been able to step on stage).

Yates' was very dry in 97 his skin was paper thin too , so his assassment he was tighter , harder I don't agree with especially not from the back

Then I heard the big BS - "... but Dorian had him (Nasser) from the back." The only body part I give Yates when he supposedly had me was his tremendous lower back development but not his thickness or back width.

The Olympia is not a lower back contest. [/b] An Olympia title is not to be given out to the best lower back - otherwise why do all of us still train all of the other body parts?

This is very eyeopening of his delusion , NO Dorian didn't just have him on lower back he had him on ENTIRE BACK Nasser was just as wide , thick? NO Nasser doesn't compare in depth , separation and detail couple that with hardness and Nasser's on crack if he think he compares favorably with Yates in the back other than width

My general opinion of that show, the 1997 two-day Olympia, is that I got robbed live in front of thousands of people but with no consequences for anyone but me and a few judges who did not judge according to that which was expected of them, that what was suggested to them.

Of course he fells he was Robbed , doesn't mean its true he's bitter thats painfully obvious did you catch the part where he says they robbed him of $5 Million dollars because he never won the Olympia? I mean seriously lol and how about this gem?

If I would have won the Olympia back then, I would have won it for a couple more years straight with the body, dedication, drive, willpower and desire I had at that time

That means he would have beat Ronnie 1998/1999 I'm sure you agree with this?  thats more of his delusion whats the excuse for him NOT winning in these years? Yates the other European was out of the picture , Ronnie wasn't even in the running ( on paper ) Nasser was the favorite to win in 1998 being the runner up , so if we entertain your nonsense Yates was hand selected than Ronnie was too lol see where you're stuck at? you can't pick and choose

Nasser lost in 1997 because he was off conditioning wise , semi-soft from the back especially in the back , hams and glutes he could beat Yates in the front double biceps/ab-thigh , come close in the front latspread , Yates edged him out in the side triceps/side chest and all back shots , should Yates have won with straight firsts? NO but I don't think Nasser had him beat being Mr Olympia helped Dorian but I don't think Nasser was so much better than Dorian on that day.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Nasser on the judges that our resident fool & IFBB shill ND puts so much faith in:

 it is about the judges. One foul apple can make them all bad. Some IFBB judges are drunk while judging, some are drug addicts, some just don't care and some are not from here and judge accordingly (to what they are told) because they are from outside the U.S. and they do not want to get into an argument with another judge because of a competitor. Otherwise they would have had their last paid trip to the U.S. And some just do not get the green light to judge again because they judged outside of the expectation circle.

I am not saying all judges are bad and oblivious, but a certain percentage of them should not be judging and do not even have a judging, or drivers, licence. Most of the IFBB pro judges are, towards me and on a one-on-one basis, polite and friendly.

But my experience of competing so far for 17 years in the pro ranks tells me otherwise when they are sitting together and judging. You can impeach the president of the U.S. but not the (pro) bodybuilding judges. You never hear them admitting a mistake or failure.

More delusion plain & simple all rantings of a bitter competitor who's been reduced to selling used shorts online .

[NarcissisticDeity]

I mean seriously !

The caption of the last pic sums it up " El Sonbaty seems to be in NO hurry to join a back exhibition "

[Hulkster]

man what contest are those colour dorian shots from?

he looks absolutely terribe.   LOL I love the flexed hamstring with nothing happening.LOL

I am guessing 96/7?

[RocketSwitch625]

If Nasser really had a problem with Yates winning the 97 Olympia, how come he acted all nice when he was announced 2nd? Watch the video to see.

[slaveboy1980]

nasser at his peak was better than yates ever was.

[slaveboy1980]

If Nasser really had a problem with Yates winning the 97 Olympia, how come he acted all nice when he was announced 2nd? Watch the video to see.

its called class and being professional.


but yes nasser has talked alot about the mr o 1997 afterwards..so nasser is not a class act all the way through..but he kept it professional onstage.

nasser won the mr o 1997.

[Hulkster]

people with brains will note that Shawn Ray did the same thing following the 94 olympia after getting royally screwed.

you have to keep your cool onstage and show class even if you got screwed as bad as some of dorian's post tear opponents did.

Flex 99 on the other hand, lost it, despite getting destroyed by Ronnie 99.

[slaveboy1980]

people with brains will note that Shawn Ray did the same thing following the 94 olympia after getting royal screwed.

you have to keep your cool onstage and show class even if you got screwed as bad as some of dorian's post tear opponents did.

Flex 99 on the other hand, lost it, despite getting destroyed by Ronnie 99.

flex a great bodybuilder, was and is a very insecure person who def hasn't class. so no suprise how he acted.

[RocketSwitch625]

nasser won the mr o 1997.

No he didn't. He might've looked good from the front but he had one of the worst backs if not the worst in the show. Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Chris Cormier, Mike Francois etc. all had more detailed backs than your man Nasser.

[Andre Nickatina]

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  I LOVE RONNIE.

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  Go to hell truce thread.

[freespirit]

At the end there's no truce. Lock this thread. 

[Master Blaster]

PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD, MODS!

[pumpster]

No he didn't. He might've looked good from the front but he had one of the worst backs if not the worst in the show. Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Chris Cormier, Mike Francois etc. all had more detailed backs than your man Nasser.

Nasser already covered this clown's stock response. To criticize his back is to imply that Yates was flawless and thus had an advantage. Hardly the case.

[RocketSwitch625]

Did I forget to mention that Yates was also better conditioned than Nasser in 1997? Nasser's career went down the shitter immediately after 97 so he's going to claim he should've won that year. The 97 O was probably his best ever showing and the majority of people who follow bodybuilding know that he never really got back into shape after that. Does the term sour grapes mean anything to you?

P.S. It amazes me that no one has ever mentioned the fact that Yates was hospitalised 4 weeks before the 97 Olympia because he had a hole in his stomach caused by the painkiller pills he took for his torn triceps. It's amazing that he was even able to compete let alone retain the title.

Blood & Guts forever!

[slaveboy1980]

No he didn't. He might've looked good from the front but he had one of the worst backs if not the worst in the show. Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Chris Cormier, Mike Francois etc. all had more detailed backs than your man Nasser.

nassers back was plenty wide and big (not as good as yates tho), the mr olympia should not be only about the back. he beat yates from every other angle.

therefor nasser won the mr o 1997.

[RocketSwitch625]

nassers back was plenty wide and big (not as good as yates tho), the mr olympia should not be only about the back. he beat yates from every other angle.

therefor nasser won the mr o 1997.

The funny thing is the judges agree with me, not you, ME. I would say that the vast majority of bodybuilding judges are more knowledgeable of the sport than you. I'm sorry but I don't value your opinion.

[slaveboy1980]

The funny thing is the judges agree with me, not you, ME. Shove that in yer pipe and smoke it.

haha the judges are a non factor, as they proved by giving yates the mr o 94,95,96....so they were a non factor in 1997 too.

the majority of the time the judges dont judge the physiques, they go by name recognition and bb politics. nasser won the mr o 1997.
yates won the mr o in 1992 and 1993. Yates bb career was basically over when he ripped his biceps in 1994. Should never have set a foot on stage after that. Yates was an amazing bodybuilder before he started to fall apart. Ripped his quads, ripped his triceps, ripped his biceps, ripped a hole in his tummy. Yates had an iron will, for sure, but we who are not brainswashed know that nasser won 1997.

please be free to inhale that.