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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36300 on: October 20, 2007, 06:29:37 AM »
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Ronnie Coleman | 1999

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic."

hahaha hey ND what are you going to do now?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36301 on: October 20, 2007, 06:43:33 AM »
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Given his stunning superiority, the judges saw no need to include him in a muscularity comparison,

I still can't believe that they could ever get a collection of judges that were so biased that they weren't even going to bother comparing dorian with his competitors..

by definition, this is probably the most biased incident of judging in history.

those judges should have all stepped down. it is no different than convicting a person of a crime without even having a trial..it makes no sense and is a mockery of the system. :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36302 on: October 20, 2007, 06:50:43 AM »
hahaha hey ND what are you going to do now?

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No whats are you going to do?


Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .



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My best Olympia was my first because my conditioning was SPOT ON

Oh snap !   ;)




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36303 on: October 20, 2007, 06:54:19 AM »
I still can't believe that they could ever get a collection of judges that were so biased that they weren't even going to bother comparing dorian with his competitors..

by definition, this is probably the most biased incident of judging in history.

those judges should have all stepped down. it is no different than convicting a person of a crime without even having a trial..it makes no sense and is a mockery of the system. :-\



Not biased they just seen something so overwhelmingly better than anyone on-stage it was redundant to include Yates ! this didn't happen in 1999 and it didn't happen in 2003 lmfao what do you have except excuses? ........................ ...nothing  ;)

I mean for all the judges collectively to come to the same conclusion should give you an idea of who great Dorian was in 1993 ...the sport advanced MY ASS ! Ronnie was worked to death in 1998 and that was ' peak Ronnie " lol

and you're the ignorant fuck who claimed Yates should have lost in 1993 LMFAO man your knowledge is severely lacking .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36304 on: October 20, 2007, 07:38:33 AM »
No whats are you going to do?


Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .



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My best Olympia was my first because my conditioning was SPOT ON

Oh snap !   ;)





LOL so now you are selectively picking and choosing which quotes to go by because they fit your incorrect agenda?

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guess what ND: the visual evidence overwhelmingly shows Ronnie was just as ripped if not more so in 99.

your quotes don't even matter in the first place.

you can find some that say he was not as ripped.

you can find some that say he was just as ripped if not more.

the equalizer is real life:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36305 on: October 20, 2007, 07:39:29 AM »
the difference in quad cuts alone is noticable.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36306 on: October 20, 2007, 07:44:09 AM »
LOL so now you are selectively picking and choosing which quotes to go by because they fit your incorrect agenda?

 ::)

guess what ND: the visual evidence overwhelmingly shows Ronnie was just as ripped if not more so in 99.

your quotes don't even matter in the first place.

you can find some that say he was not as ripped.

you can find some that say he was just as ripped if not more.

the equalizer is real life:

Hulkster I posted pictures showing the contrary so whats that mean? pictures ALONE aren't accurate and I supplemented them with quotes by the man HIMSELF all you're left with is excuses .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36307 on: October 20, 2007, 07:44:29 AM »
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Not biased they just seen something so overwhelmingly better than anyone on-stage it was redundant to include Yates ! this didn't happen in 1999 and it didn't happen in 2003 lmfao what do you have except excuses? ........................ ...nothing  

look, I know your critical thinking skills leave a whole lot to be desired, but you don't seem to understand what is happening here:

by definition, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a panel of judges to award an accurate and fair score in a comparison round of mandatory poses WITHOUT ACTUALLY COMPARING DORIAN TO HIS FELLOW COMPETITORS IN THE ROUND.

they were prepared to give him a score in the round without even bothering to compare him to his competitors.

this is the very definition of baised and partial judging.

the judges were basically saying dorian didn't even need to step on stage - yet they give him a score anyway..

this is a travesty of the entire scoring system.

why even bother to have judges then? just hand out the title based on whose name sounds better or who ate the most at the buffet table? ::)

surely, even a simple  mind like yours can understand this basic fact?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36308 on: October 20, 2007, 07:45:22 AM »
Hulkster I posted pictures showing the contrary so whats that mean? pictures ALONE aren't accurate and I supplemented them with quotes by the man HIMSELF all you're left with is excuses .

lol no you didn't.

got quad cuts?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36309 on: October 20, 2007, 07:46:32 AM »
the difference in quad cuts alone is noticable.

lmfao different lighting , different quality , Ronnie could very well be not fully flexed in that 98 shot way to many variables to consider

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36310 on: October 20, 2007, 07:48:10 AM »
look, I know your critical thinking skills leave a whole lot to be desired, but you don't seem to understand what is happening here:

by definition, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a panel of judges to award an accurate and fair score in a comparison round of mandatory poses WITHOUT ACTUALLY COMPARING DORIAN TO HIS FELLOW COMPETITORS IN THE ROUND.

they were prepared to give him a score in the round without even bothering to compare him to his competitors.

this is the very definition of baised and partial judging.

the judges were basically saying dorian didn't even need to step on stage - yet they give him a score anyway..

this is a travesty of the entire scoring system.

why even bother to have judges then? just hand out the title based on whose name sounds better or who ate the most at the buffet table? ::)

surely, even a simple  mind like yours can understand this basic fact?

Oh man you're fucking stupid he was COMPARED he was you idiot lol get this through your ignorant skull .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36311 on: October 20, 2007, 07:48:57 AM »
I still can't believe that they could ever get a collection of judges that were so biased that they weren't even going to bother comparing dorian with his competitors..

by definition, this is probably the most biased incident of judging in history.

those judges should have all stepped down. it is no different than convicting a person of a crime without even having a trial..it makes no sense and is a mockery of the system. :-\


irrefutable evidence. there was no need to compare yates to the others. period. he was that damn good. it was all for second place.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36312 on: October 20, 2007, 07:51:23 AM »
irrefutable evidence. there was no need to compare yates to the others. period. he was that damn good. it was all for second place.

Exactly like Samir said " Dorian was first , second and third" He's just so pissed that his beloved Ronnie was worked to death in 1998 lol and just barely won

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36313 on: October 20, 2007, 07:55:45 AM »
irrefutable evidence. there was no need to compare yates to the others. period. he was that damn good. it was all for second place.

you too miss the entire point.

its not about a 'need' to compare dorian to the others in a muscularity round.

its about awarding a score based on accurate comparisons, and using these as a basis for your score.

by not comparing dorian, the judges have no basis for how they arrived at their number given to dorian.

you can't evaluate how a front double biceps shot looks comapred to the others simply by looking at some quarter turns.

its an impossibilty.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36314 on: October 20, 2007, 07:57:12 AM »
Oh man you're fucking stupid he was COMPARED he was you idiot lol get this through your ignorant skull .

no he was not. not by the judges.

the judges were prepared to award a score without even comparing him.

you miss this point.

demillia called out dorian.

the judges didn't give a shit.

they were going to pull a number out of their asses. ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36315 on: October 20, 2007, 08:04:14 AM »
no he was not. not by the judges.

the judges were prepared to award a score without even comparing him.

you miss this point.

demillia called out dorian.

the judges didn't give a shit.

they were going to pull a number out of their asses. ::)

Hulkster pay attention your moron he was compared in the symmetry round he was directly compared to his fellow competitors after the symmetry round comes the muscularity round ( I'd thought you'd know this  ;) ) the judges ascertained Dorian was so far ahead of anyone in bodybuilding , anyone on stage it was REDUNDANT to include him the the muscularity round ! although he did go out for the fans , you know NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding , do NOT speak on matters you're ignorant of .

You're just jealous that Yates was so far ahead of everyone that this was done , it didn't happen in 1998 it didn't happen in 1999 and it didn't happen in 2003 in fact it NEVER happned to Ronnie lol every wonder why? because he wasn't in Dorian's league .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36316 on: October 20, 2007, 08:18:06 AM »
Incontrovertible proof Ronnie wasn't as conditioned in 99 as he was in 98 and this is Ronnie 99 pre-judging so there is NO excuses

left side 99 , right side 98

and obvious discrepancy in the detail & separation of the brachialis from the biceps & triceps , in 99 his deltoids looks watery compared to 98 look at the difference in separation between the teres major , infraspinatus and lats look at the tightness of his erector spinae in 98 V 99 I mean you can't argue this try as you may now couple this with McGough's quote

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


and Ronnie's

My best Olympia was my first because my conditioning was SPOT ON

and what are you left with? ZERO  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36317 on: October 20, 2007, 09:24:04 AM »
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Hulkster pay attention your moron he was compared in the symmetry round he was directly compared to his fellow competitors after the symmetry round comes the muscularity round ( I'd thought you'd know this   ) the judges ascertained Dorian was so far ahead of anyone in bodybuilding , anyone on stage it was REDUNDANT to include him the the muscularity round ! although he did go out for the fans , you know NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding , do NOT speak on matters you're ignorant of .

can anyone believe this fucking idiot?

so, now I know nothing about competitive bodybiulding because I correctly point out that not calling dorian out for muscular comparisons yet giving him a score in this round anyway is partial, biased and by definition a mockery of the entire scoring sytem to begin with, "I know nothing"..

give me a break.

ND, you are not smart enough to understand what is going on here.

sorry.

you will never get it.

not calling someone out in a round and yet giving them a score ANYWAY about as clear cut as you can get in terms of bias. by definition..

and you can't grasp it.

pehaps one day if you ever get out of McD's your brain will be stimulated enought to actually start to develop some critical thinking skills.. :-\

then again, maybe not.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36318 on: October 20, 2007, 09:25:55 AM »
Incontrovertible proof Ronnie wasn't as conditioned in 99 as he was in 98 and this is Ronnie 99 pre-judging so there is NO excuses

left side 99 , right side 98

and obvious discrepancy in the detail & separation of the brachialis from the biceps & triceps , in 99 his deltoids looks watery compared to 98 look at the difference in separation between the teres major , infraspinatus and lats look at the tightness of his erector spinae in 98 V 99 I mean you can't argue this try as you may now couple this with McGough's quote

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


and Ronnie's

My best Olympia was my first because my conditioning was SPOT ON

and what are you left with? ZERO  ;)


so, what you basically have is that his back was 99.99% as well conditioned as 98 and the rest of him was WAY more conditioned..


yeah, he was more ripped overall in 98 than 99...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36319 on: October 20, 2007, 09:27:53 AM »
Incontrovertible proof Ronnie wasn't as conditioned in 99 as he was in 98 and this is Ronnie 99 pre-judging so there is NO excuses

left side 99 , right side 98

and obvious discrepancy in the detail & separation of the brachialis from the biceps & triceps , in 99 his deltoids looks watery compared to 98 look at the difference in separation between the teres major , infraspinatus and lats look at the tightness of his erector spinae in 98 V 99 I mean you can't argue this try as you may now couple this with McGough's quote

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


and Ronnie's

My best Olympia was my first because my conditioning was SPOT ON

and what are you left with? ZERO  ;)

you do realize that there is virtually no difference?

and in 99 his arms, quads, chest, delts were ALL WAY MORE cut than in 98:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36320 on: October 20, 2007, 09:29:16 AM »
I find it funny that ND is picking and choosing which peter quotes to go by..

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what a fucking idiot.

no brains.

doesn't understand the judging system.

thinks that giving a score to someone in a muscularity round is fair even if you don't even bother to call the fucking person out..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36321 on: October 20, 2007, 09:42:03 AM »
can anyone believe this fucking idiot?

so, now I know nothing about competitive bodybiulding because I correctly point out that not calling dorian out for muscular comparisons yet giving him a score in this round anyway is partial, biased and by definition a mockery of the entire scoring sytem to begin with, "I know nothing"..

give me a break.

ND, you are not smart enough to understand what is going on here.

sorry.

you will never get it.

not calling someone out in a round and yet giving them a score ANYWAY about as clear cut as you can get in terms of bias. by definition..

and you can't grasp it.

pehaps one day if you ever get out of McD's your brain will be stimulated enought to actually start to develop some critical thinking skills.. :-\

then again, maybe not.

Hulkster you don't know anything because you don't even know how contests are judged ! you repeatedly claimed Yates wasn't compared to anyone and he was . you're dead wrong in claiming that .

Hulkster retain this moron he was JUDGED directly to his fellow competitors they saw NO need to bring him out in the muscularity rounds it was redundant , he was above & beyond everyone its not biased its a fact , are you claiming he shouldn't have won in 1993 again? or wouldn't have finished with straight firsts? please tell me you're this stupid .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36322 on: October 20, 2007, 09:47:35 AM »
1472 pages... hows it going guys? you getting anywhere?

when arguing, remember to keep it short and to the point.

hope this helps  ;)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36323 on: October 20, 2007, 09:54:09 AM »

so, what you basically have is that his back was 99.99% as well conditioned as 98 and the rest of him was WAY more conditioned..


yeah, he was more ripped overall in 98 than 99...
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Moron did you NOT read the post? did you even look at where I said he's lagging behind in density & conditioning as well as separation reread this

and obvious discrepancy in the detail & separation of the brachialis from the biceps & triceps , in 99 his deltoids looks watery compared to 98 look at the difference in separation between the teres major , infraspinatus and lats look at the tightness of his erector spinae in 98 V 99

thats NOT just the back its the arms/delts/and entire back and 99.99% are you fucking high? if that was the case there would be NO NOTICEABLE difference to even comment on , there was enough of a discrepancy between the two years that McGough and Ronnie himself felt compelled to comment on you're stuck on stupid , get over it Ronnie 99 was not has hard or dry as 98 period.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #36324 on: October 20, 2007, 09:55:52 AM »
you do realize that there is virtually no difference?

and in 99 his arms, quads, chest, delts were ALL WAY MORE cut than in 98:

lmfao now you're contradicting both McgOugh & Ronnie ? he wasn't in fact harder or drier in 1998 he was in 1999


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