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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36600 on: November 04, 2007, 04:19:48 PM »
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better shape and vascularity.

you forgot to add in way better detail along with equal size..

as others keeping tell you, Ronnie took what dorian offered (conditioned mass) and took up up another level by adding better shape, detail and vascularity to the mix.

dorian was the prototype.

ronnie was the finished and refined product.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36601 on: November 04, 2007, 04:23:33 PM »

hulkster, what are you waiting for?

another year or 1500 pages?



tons of people in the bodybuilding community believe Ronnie 99 may have been the best ever:

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=4268

problem is, you will never ever see anyone that says yes as being a credible source because you don't like what you hear.

simple as that. ::)
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36602 on: November 04, 2007, 05:11:43 PM »
huckster you lack the mental capacity to make an intelligent argument.

comparing a studio photo of ronnie to contest photo of dorian doesn't really help your cause.

making ridiculous claims about ronnies detailed calves, especially since they were full of oil in the
latter stages, is even more lame.

tons of people in the bodybuilding community believe Ronnie 99 may have been the best ever:

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=4268

problem is, you will never ever see anyone that says yes as being a credible source because you don't like what you hear.

simple as that. ::)

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36603 on: November 04, 2007, 05:55:38 PM »
huckster you lack the mental capacity to make an intelligent argument.

comparing a studio photo of ronnie to contest photo of dorian doesn't really help your cause.

making ridiculous claims about ronnies detailed calves, especially since they were full of oil in the
latter stages, is even more lame.


LOL in case you haven't noticed:

NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO REFUTE MY "RIDICLOUS" CLAIM YET!

you go on about how stupid something is, yet you can't even prove that what you are making fun of in wrong in the first place.. ::)

makes no sense at all.. ::)

the collective lack of intelligence of the dorian nuthuggers never ever ceases to amaze me.. :-\



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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36604 on: November 04, 2007, 05:56:26 PM »
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comparing a studio photo of ronnie to contest photo of dorian doesn't really help your cause.

and epic tired old excuses don't help yours either.. ::)
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36605 on: November 04, 2007, 06:01:13 PM »
Big Ron around 300 pounds on the BFTO 2003 DVD.
Amazing how defined he is at this weight and how
small his waist is from the back at that weight.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36606 on: November 04, 2007, 06:07:07 PM »
Big Ron around 300 pounds on the BFTO 2003 DVD.
Amazing how defined he is at this weight and how
small his waist is from the back at that weight.

Amazing doesn't even cover, unbelievable is the only word that really describes how good he was. Best we'll ever see period.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36607 on: November 04, 2007, 06:17:48 PM »
his 2003 rear lat spread is by far and above the best ever seen to date.
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36608 on: November 04, 2007, 07:22:43 PM »
how long is the changed thread title going to reflect the grade 2 level of reading comprehension exhibited by the dorian nuthuggers?


LMAO.
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36609 on: November 04, 2007, 07:24:56 PM »
tons of people in the bodybuilding community believe Ronnie 99 may have been the best ever:

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php?t=4268

problem is, you will never ever see anyone that says yes as being a credible source because you don't like what you hear.

simple as that. ::)


ronnie himself and peter mcgough both say that the 01 AC is ronnie's best ever.

owned.

waiting to hear you say that people on musclemecca and yourself know more than ronnie and PM.


lol.
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36610 on: November 04, 2007, 08:34:32 PM »
Ice Cold,

Hopefully this will shed some light on why myself, Hulkster
and many others believe 1999 was Coleman's best physique...

Ronnie 1999 at prejudging was and may be forever
the greatest bodybuilding physique. He was 10 pounds heavier
than 1998 and 2001 AC and IF his condition was better at those two shows
it was so miniscule that it was negligible compared to the extra 10
pounds of muscle he carried in 1999. He couldn't have been much more
ripped as the pic shows.

"the term negligible refers to the quantities so small that they can be ignored (neglected) when studying the larger effect."
   
There are other reasons I believe some say 2001 AC Ron was his best but I'll save those for later.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36611 on: November 04, 2007, 08:35:40 PM »
Bizzy, did you attend the 98 and 99 Mr Olympia?
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36612 on: November 04, 2007, 08:41:39 PM »
Ronnie's 2003 rear latspread is just crazy

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36613 on: November 04, 2007, 09:04:18 PM »
England,

I did not attend any of those shows. I agree that pictures
can be very deceiving. Video on the other hand is very close
to the real thing. In some ways it is actually better because
being there live gives you a one shot analysis. On video
you can review things as many times as you like and at variable
speeds. Video can not create, as well as pictures - Shape, Separation, striations
ect. that are not already present. The lighting for the 1998 and 1999 Olympias
are very similar. The same can not be said for the 2001 AC. If you've seen
that DVD everyone looks smoother than they probably were in person. Luckily,
there is enough backstage footage to get a good idea of what Coleman's true
condition was. It was different than 98 and 99 in that he was not that full so
he looked a little smooth until he flexed. When he flexed though; all hell broke lose!
Kinda reminded me of how Samir Bannout was in 1983. A little smooth until he flexed
and then BAM! Seperation, striations like crazy. Anyway, I know your likely to disagree
with my assessment of video but I think it tells enough of the story for me to come to my own
conclusions. I don't like to talk about myself but I have had national success in 3 different
art forms and state success in designing houses so I do have alot of confidence in my
assessments of physiques.   

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36614 on: November 04, 2007, 09:04:34 PM »
Ice Cold,

Hopefully this will shed some light on why myself, Hulkster
and many others believe 1999 was Coleman's best physique...

Ronnie 1999 at prejudging was and may be forever
the greatest bodybuilding physique. He was 10 pounds heavier
than 1998 and 2001 AC and IF his condition was better at those two shows
it was so miniscule that it was negligible compared to the extra 10
pounds of muscle he carried in 1999. He couldn't have been much more
ripped as the pic shows.



the why was nothing EVER printed in 99 about ronnie being the best ever? - unlike yates in 93, 95, and ronnie in 03?

if ronnie in 99 was the best ever, then it would have been apparent immediately - and would have been printed in every olympia report in every mag.

i have every mag from 99 and nothing about ronnie being the best ever was printed.

even years later, there is still no mention of it.

when all this talk about ronnie, best ever, it was after 03 when ronnie was 285 lbs.

these are the facts.
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36615 on: November 04, 2007, 09:15:38 PM »
It is pretty amazing that 1999 slips under the radar even though there are
many comments such as this made by Mr. Natural Olympia...

Many people in the sport have also talked about the fact that Ronnie Coleman may be the best Mr. Olympia ever!
Last year, Ronnie was about ten pounds heavier and he was just as ripped as when he won the contest the first time in 1998.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36616 on: November 04, 2007, 09:22:11 PM »
It is pretty amazing that 1999 slips under the radar even though there are

that fact that 99 "slips under the radar" should tell you something.

93 or 95 didnt, nor did 01 or 03.
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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36617 on: November 04, 2007, 09:27:46 PM »
that fact that 99 "slips under the radar" should tell you something.

93 or 95 didnt, nor did 01 or 03.

This takes the cake for "slipping under the radar" with a perfect score. ::)

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36618 on: November 04, 2007, 09:33:54 PM »
Yates hair cut was off in 97, but that was about it. He won the show fairly easily given his distinct size advantage over everyone except Nasser El No Back.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36619 on: November 04, 2007, 09:41:06 PM »
Amazing how many people agree with me and Hulkster
about 1999 when presented with the evidence.
This is just from one thread on another board.
I didn't bother going past the 4th page.

1. In my mind ,thats Ronnies best ever shape. 1999
2. i agree.. that was a great physique alright...
3. the 99 RC is the best physique to ever step onstage
4. 99= Ronnies best ever
5. Thank you! I thought i was the only one who liked the 99' Coleman over the 03' one.
6. I agree with you FLEX 99 he looked the best IMO.
7. That physique is untouchable
8. 99 better than 03, untoucable
9. Ronnie's best ever
10. theres not a soul on this planet that could beat his shape in 99
11. nothings gonna beat his physique from the 1999 O.
12. 99-the best ever ronnie
13. 99 Ronnie Coleman... thge greatest EVER!!! COLEMAN 1999>ANYBODY!!!

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36620 on: November 04, 2007, 09:52:30 PM »
England,

I did not attend any of those shows. I agree that pictures
can be very deceiving. Video on the other hand is very close
to the real thing. In some ways it is actually better because
being there live gives you a one shot analysis. On video
you can review things as many times as you like and at variable
speeds. Video can not create, as well as pictures - Shape, Separation, striations
ect. that are not already present. The lighting for the 1998 and 1999 Olympias
are very similar. The same can not be said for the 2001 AC. If you've seen
that DVD everyone looks smoother than they probably were in person. Luckily,
there is enough backstage footage to get a good idea of what Coleman's true
condition was. It was different than 98 and 99 in that he was not that full so
he looked a little smooth until he flexed. When he flexed though; all hell broke lose!
Kinda reminded me of how Samir Bannout was in 1983. A little smooth until he flexed
and then BAM! Seperation, striations like crazy. Anyway, I know your likely to disagree
with my assessment of video but I think it tells enough of the story for me to come to my own
conclusions. I don't like to talk about myself but I have had national success in 3 different
art forms and state success in designing houses so I do have alot of confidence in my
assessments of physiques.   

You just lost it at  "Video can not create, as well as pictures - Shape, Separation, striations
ect."
If that were true, Judges wouldnt judge the competition live.
They'd be in a booth in a backroom.
Obviously Video can change what you see, it's a fucking recreation of reality, using digital images for christs sake!
The slightest variation in lighting can produce deeper looking shadows, creating, viola, deeper looking cuts!
OMG!  ::)

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36621 on: November 04, 2007, 09:58:02 PM »
The slightest variation in lighting can produce deeper looking shadows, creating, viola, deeper looking cuts!
OMG!  Roll Eyes

You just agreed with me without even knowing it. It can not CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALREADY THERE! That is what I said. You are talking about enhancing something that already exsists
which I never commented on. I think you just like to nitpick and argue.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36622 on: November 04, 2007, 10:10:25 PM »
The slightest variation in lighting can produce deeper looking shadows, creating, viola, deeper looking cuts!
OMG!  Roll Eyes

You just agreed with me without even knowing it. It can not CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALREADY THERE! That is what I said. You are talking about enhancing something that already exsists
which I never commented on. I think you just like to nitpick and argue.

Nitpick?
So you're saying, the judges may as well judge from a secluded room on video?
Hahaha.
I think your easily impressed.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36623 on: November 05, 2007, 03:42:51 AM »
The slightest variation in lighting can produce deeper looking shadows, creating, viola, deeper looking cuts!
OMG!  Roll Eyes

You just agreed with me without even knowing it. It can not CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALREADY THERE! That is what I said. You are talking about enhancing something that already exsists
which I never commented on. I think you just like to nitpick and argue.

you are wasting your breath. IceCold has demonstrated many times over that he does not understand. thats why he keeps going on about 'adjusted' pics when no one else does.

not everyone is born intelligent. some are left in the dust.

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Re: Hulkster Claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian !
« Reply #36624 on: November 05, 2007, 03:44:10 AM »
Amazing how many people agree with me and Hulkster
about 1999 when presented with the evidence.
This is just from one thread on another board.
I didn't bother going past the 4th page.

1. In my mind ,thats Ronnies best ever shape. 1999
2. i agree.. that was a great physique alright...
3. the 99 RC is the best physique to ever step onstage
4. 99= Ronnies best ever
5. Thank you! I thought i was the only one who liked the 99' Coleman over the 03' one.
6. I agree with you FLEX 99 he looked the best IMO.
7. That physique is untouchable
8. 99 better than 03, untoucable
9. Ronnie's best ever
10. theres not a soul on this planet that could beat his shape in 99
11. nothings gonna beat his physique from the 1999 O.
12. 99-the best ever ronnie
13. 99 Ronnie Coleman... thge greatest EVER!!! COLEMAN 1999>ANYBODY!!!

Icecold wil find some excuse.. ::)
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