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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36925 on: November 19, 2007, 09:17:35 AM »
I see a no tan 3 weeks out Dorian raping Ronnie on almost everything.
Including quad separation and detail.

LOL, raping Ronnie on what? You mean yates smaller and inferior arms, quads, chest, delts, hams, glutes, wider waist, inferior taper. Not to mention yates has less detail, striations and seperation than Ronnie in those areas. Hell, even Ronnie's back is drier and more seperated than yates. The only thing yates has on Ronnie in the 93 video are inner quads, calves and lower back.

Ronnie at 285 pounds at 5 weeks out. Huge, seperated and dry to the bone.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36926 on: November 19, 2007, 09:29:31 AM »
The Iceman Cometh once again!
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« Reply #36927 on: November 19, 2007, 09:31:17 AM »
jesus these guys are fucking idiots.

dorian had better calves and abs, that is it.

nothing else was better, ronnies legs look three times as dry in that comparison. if dorians look "harder" please explain how i could quantify this visually?

you fucking cant, just keep saying harder, hardness means, cuts, seperation, and detail, nothing more.

dorian had the hardest lower back ever, because he had sick seperation, cuts and detail. theres no magic hardness you meatbags keep refering too, anyone with some fucking brains can see this. Hardness exists, but its based on the above factors.  its like saying dorians quads had great flavour, another meaningless statement unlesss you havf some visual variables. stop the thread for everyones sake, dorian loses, no doubt about it.

add dorian's entire back and traps to 'calves and abs'.


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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36928 on: November 19, 2007, 09:50:31 AM »
Both backs were astounding...

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« Reply #36929 on: November 19, 2007, 09:52:12 AM »
Both backs were astounding...

that's true but dorian has him in that dept..

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36930 on: November 19, 2007, 09:54:15 AM »
that's true but dorian has him in that dept..

Not on size, but on conditioning.
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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36931 on: November 19, 2007, 09:58:08 AM »
The Iceman Cometh once again!
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No problem bizzy. Take your time.

yates looks great in the 93 video no doubt. He has the best calves and lower back ever in that video.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36932 on: November 19, 2007, 10:00:49 AM »
Traps look pretty close to the same too...

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« Reply #36933 on: November 19, 2007, 10:01:14 AM »
Not on size, but on conditioning.

yes, he has him on size too, density, thickness, every muscle group on peak dorian's back beats peak ronnie's.

what you are confusing as a size advantage is actually a taper advantage which peak ronnie clearly has, but if someone can be bothered finding the best back shots of both we can break down each muscle group and you will see that dorian has him throughout the entire back.


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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36934 on: November 19, 2007, 10:03:15 AM »
ronnie annihilates dorian in any mm pose. it's not even close.

ronnie has the best mm pose of all time.

having said that, dorian has better traps.

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« Reply #36935 on: November 19, 2007, 10:11:27 AM »
yes, he has him on size too, density, thickness, every muscle group on peak dorian's back beats peak ronnie's.

what you are confusing as a size advantage is actually a taper advantage which peak ronnie clearly has, but if someone can be bothered finding the best back shots of both we can break down each muscle group and you will see that dorian has him throughout the entire back.



I would have to see that to believe it.
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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36936 on: November 19, 2007, 10:12:10 AM »
some people say yates back was not thick. ronnie looks flat as a board here. where is the round thickness?

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36937 on: November 19, 2007, 10:28:09 AM »
These two are good. The one from 98 is probably
the most detailed back picture of Ronnie ever.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36938 on: November 19, 2007, 10:48:24 AM »
that's true but dorian has him in that dept..

how?

in the lat spread comparison, ronnie is more detailed, traps are way bigger, look at how much higher they are, you can see the lower back insertions, and his taper is better.

theres no arguing.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36939 on: November 19, 2007, 11:59:04 AM »
if dorians look "harder" please explain how i could quantify this visually?

you fucking cant, just keep saying harder, hardness means, cuts, seperation, and detail, nothing more.

its like saying dorians quads had great flavour, another meaningless statement unlesss you havf some visual variables.

this post was so good that I had to repost it. The Dorian nuthuggers can't explain how Dorian is "harder."

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36940 on: November 19, 2007, 12:07:00 PM »
this post was so good that I had to repost it. The Dorian nuthuggers can't explain how Dorian is "harder."
You can "quantify" it by watching Dorians 3 weeks out vid very carefully. In some of the close up shots, you can definatley see the "hardness" Dorian was been claimed to have, that you cannot see in photos.
You guys amaze me, that people who have seen both guys live, claim Dorian has that hardness, and you try and dismiss it.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36941 on: November 19, 2007, 12:18:57 PM »
I will say this; That pose in your avatar is an incredible
pose for Dorian and probably shows his back thickness
even better than his back double bi does.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36942 on: November 19, 2007, 12:34:55 PM »
You can "quantify" it by watching Dorians 3 weeks out vid very carefully. In some of the close up shots, you can definatley see the "hardness" Dorian was been claimed to have, that you cannot see in photos.

that's like me saying Ronnie looks harder. There's not a damn thing you can do to disprove my comment since you are not using any objective criteria.

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You guys amaze me, that people who have seen both guys live, claim Dorian has that hardness, and you try and dismiss it.

the Dorian nuthuggers amaze me. The people who have seen both guys compete say Ronnie at his best was unbeatable, and you try and dismiss it. ;)

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36943 on: November 19, 2007, 12:49:40 PM »
that's like me saying Ronnie looks harder. There's not a damn thing you can do to disprove my comment since you are not using any objective criteria.

the Dorian nuthuggers amaze me. The people who have seen both guys compete say Ronnie at his best was unbeatable, and you try and dismiss it. ;)

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”
If you noticed, I am talking about getbiggers who have been there.
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Hell no, because anyone in a mag is going to tow the company line.
Thats why their quotes contradict each other a million times over.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36944 on: November 19, 2007, 01:52:44 PM »
that's true but dorian has him in that dept..

That's a matter of taste, what factors matter more. Back and calves are the only areas in which Yates is as good or better.

Coleman with a huge edge in taper and width, Yates with more density & dryness.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36945 on: November 19, 2007, 01:54:19 PM »
Traps look pretty close to the same too...

Yates had good traps but not in Coleman's league.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36946 on: November 19, 2007, 02:45:50 PM »
This is what Ronnie Coleman has become since the release of the 1993 photo shoot video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBv5KHTcwEM

I didn't know that Coleman and his bruthers were singers. LOL

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36947 on: November 19, 2007, 03:48:01 PM »
if dorians look "harder" please explain how i could quantify this visually?

you fucking cant, just keep saying harder, hardness means, cuts, seperation, and detail, nothing more.

not quite. dexter jackson is hard as shit all over, but his quads display average cuts and separation. its the look of the skin where u can tell if someone is hard, not the cuts or separation.

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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36948 on: November 19, 2007, 04:15:02 PM »
Yates had good traps but not in Coleman's league.

In case you missed it, Coleman lost. hahahahahahahahaha
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Re: Hulkster Lost ! The Truce Thread is DEAD ! the War is over !
« Reply #36949 on: November 19, 2007, 04:51:32 PM »
If you noticed, I am talking about getbiggers who have been there.
Have you ever seen me toss quotes about?
Hell no, because anyone in a mag is going to tow the company line.
Thats why their quotes contradict each other a million times over.

i was there in 91 and 95.