Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

yates contest physique is easily proven to be better than a pre contest physique. yates contest physique is easily dryer with better better seperation than a pre contest physique. He was just bigger pre contest.

thats what makes the Peter quote so incredibly stupid.

I posed this question before about how the nuthuggers could believe that yates precontest physique was better than ronnie when:

none of the scenes or screencaps in the vid could come close to EITHER a contest 99 ronnie OR a contest 93 yates..


but again, they ignored the question just like they do all the visual evidence in this thread..

 

[Hulkster]

cue the excuses....

  

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL first of all idiot, those shots are not the same. second of all, Bizzy just posed the first shot yesterday, so because his screenshots are a bit different than forced reps shots, they are adjusted?

 

ya know, this whole thread you guys have been on the defensive, not offensive.

you are always trying to come up with reasons why dorian looks so bad compared to ronnie..rather than simply saying its because his physique was worse.

and guesss what: when the muscletime 99 olympia pics are posted, you are going to be on the defensive panic mode once again.

you read it here FIRST.

I love how now every shot posted of 99 Ronnie is 'adjusted'.

you are too fucking stupid to understand that Bizzy's shots might looks a bit different than ForcedReps shots for a million different reasons..none of which are purposeful adjusing of pics to make ronnie seem better..

 

I suggest you await his response before accusing others, asshole.

Those shots are the same the difference one is cropped and the other isn't again you keep posting these shots that don't match the DVD screencaps from forcedreps I wonder why lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

cue the excuses....

  

You're a master at excuses 

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


just in case you missed it

he was never drier or harder than Dorian. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

1500 pages of Ronnie being on the offesive, 1500 pages of dorian being on the defensive, doing everything to come up with excuses as to why he gets owned time after time after time.

offensive works 1000x better.

you mean delusional works better again where are the quotes saying Dorian;s conditioning was ' over-hyped ' or a ' myth '  ? I'm waiting

[Hulkster]

see what I mean about ND?

quotes after quotes with no substance or real life visuals to back them up..

 

what good is an opinion if you can't show it is accurate, or, even worse, you can show that the opinion is 100% WRONG?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

PROOF 

[NarcissisticDeity]

see what I mean about ND?

quotes after quotes with no substance or real life visuals to back them up..

 

what good is an opinion if you can't show it is accurate, or, even worse, you can show that the opinion is 100% WRONG?

 

Again find me the quotes , I'm waiting

[NarcissisticDeity]

Anymore?

[Hulkster]

ND, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[NeoSeminole]

Again find me the quotes , I'm waiting

I got your quotes right here, dumbass.

RONNIE IS UNBEATABLE

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been”

[NeoSeminole]

ON THE SUBJECT OF SIZE

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Team Flex – Flexonline.com, November 2004

“For whatever faults he may possess, Ronnie Coleman is quite possibly the most impressive physical specimen walking the earth today. Pictures do not do him justice. When he stands relaxed muscle literally hangs from his frame, as if his skin can no longer support the pendulous masses of flesh he has forged with untold tons of iron and steel. It’s difficult to imagine anyone surpassing Big Ron’s level of mass in this, or any, lifetime.”

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

[NeoSeminole]

BEST BACK EVER

Jim Schmaltz – Flex, April 2002

“The 37-year-old Coleman has what many of the sport's analysts feel is the best back ever.”

Peter McGough - Flex, December 2006

"The best back ever lacked its eye-popping detail and fullness."

[NeoSeminole]

ON THE SUBJECT OF CONDITIONING

Peter McGough - unknown

“When Mr. Coleman showed up at the New York event in October, Mr. McGough says he immediately noticed the difference. “He was really much harder,” he says. “He retained his size, but he had the density and granite hardness."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Sean Toh – http://creditplushealth.org/sport%20celebrities/Ronnie%20Coleman.htm

“At the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic, Ronnie won the show and his performance at the time was hailed by many to be his best ever showing. He was 245 pounds at the contest, in extremely tight form, and dense as stone.”

[NarcissisticDeity]

I got your quotes right here, dumbass.

RONNIE IS UNBEATABLE

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been”

Where does ANY of those quotes say Dorian's conditioning was over-hyped or smooth? please feel free to TRY and impress me when find them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Neo try this 

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

Ronnie was NEVER drier or harder than Dorain thats a Royal Flush kid you can't beat this hand.

[NeoSeminole]

ND, try the other 20 quotes I posted from bodybuilding journalists, pros, and fans who saw them in person.

and while you're at it, speak on this...

both Dorian and Ronnie at 260 lbs. next to Kevin Levrone for comparison.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ON THE SUBJECT OF CONDITIONING

Peter McGough - unknown

“When Mr. Coleman showed up at the New York event in October, Mr. McGough says he immediately noticed the difference. “He was really much harder,” he says. “He retained his size, but he had the density and granite hardness."

Jim Stoppani - Flex, July 2005

"Has anyone ever displayed a more muscular, more shredded, higher-quality physique than a 247-pound Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic?"

Sean Toh – http://creditplushealth.org/sport%20celebrities/Ronnie%20Coleman.htm

“At the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic, Ronnie won the show and his performance at the time was hailed by many to be his best ever showing. He was 245 pounds at the contest, in extremely tight form, and dense as stone.”

None of these say he's harder or drier than Dorian NONE nice try though this is specific to the topic at hand

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

Dorian on Pro Bodybuilding Weekly when asked how he would fair against Coleman he said specifically he has better conditioning than Ronnie ! thats three what do you have? where is the quotes saying Ronnie is better conditioned than Dorian specifically? where are the quotes saying Dorian's conditioning was ' smooth ' or ' over-hyped ' or a ' myth ' ? where?

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, try the other 20 quotes I posted from bodybuilding journalists, pros, and fans who saw them in person.

and while you're at it, speak on this...

both Dorian and Ronnie at 260 lbs. next to Kevin Levrone for comparison.

Neo which one of those quotes said specifically Ronnie has better conditioning than Yates? Oh thats right NONE OF THEM DID and I'll speak on this what does that prove? NOTHING I know one of them is better conditioned than the other two 

[NeoSeminole]

None of these say he's harder or drier than Dorian NONE nice try though this is specific to the topic at hand

yawn, I have a direct quote saying nobody has presented a more shredded physique than Ronnie and 2 more referring to his density and granite hardness. Are you honestly going to argue over different types of granite hardness now?

[NeoSeminole]

Neo which one of those quotes said specifically Ronnie has better conditioning than Yates? Oh thats right NONE OF THEM DID and I'll speak on this what does that prove? NOTHING I know one of them is better conditioned than the other two

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, I have a direct quote saying nobody has presented a more shredded physique than Ronnie and 2 more referring to his density and granite hardness. Are you honestly going to argue over different types of granite hardness now?

Neo I know you're not that sophisticated but you have nothing , you don't have a quote saying ' nobody has presented a more shredded physique than Ronnoe ' thats an outright lie , you have a question . and two referring to his density and granite hardness what does that have to do with Dorian Yates? Oh I know NOTHING , this is what you're reduced to? lying and statements about his level of conditioning?

I have three quotes ALL converging to a single point and thats Dorian Yates is better conditioned than Ronnie Coleman , you've yet to post one single quote saying his conditioning was ' over-hyped ' as you claim ' or a myth ' what do you have? 

you're not in my league little man .

[NarcissisticDeity]

  


this prove what? he's better conditioned? what is this supposed to prove? lol is this another attempt of your to say well Ronnie's calves are almost as big as Jays therefore they would be almost as big as Dorians? lol

[Hulkster]

ND, you are missing the whole point.

you don't need to find a quote saying that Ronnie had better conditioning than dorian in order to show that it is true.

you seem to think that you do...

you can show it quite easily with real visual evidence, which has been going on for 1500+ pages now.


here is some more in case  you missed it the first time around:

 

[NeoSeminole]

Neo I know you're not that sophisticated but you have nothing , you don't have a quote saying ' nobody has presented a more shredded physique than Ronnoe ' thats an outright lie , you have a question . and two referring to his density and granite hardness what does that have to do with Dorian Yates? Oh I know NOTHING , this is what you're reduced to? lying and statements about his level of conditioning?

ha ha ha, I have nothing? I have a more compelling argument than you will ever have. I've used videos, pics, and testimony from experts who've seen both in person to prove why Ronnie at his prime would beat Dorian. All you have is one quote from Peter McGough who can't decide between Ronnie or Dorian. It's reflects poorly on the strength of your argument when your trump card isn't even sure if Dorian would win.