Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

I believe that Dorian would win based on the fact that Dorian at his best is just as big as Ronnie,

no

has superior conditioning

depends on which Dorian you are talking about.

and less lacking muscles and structure.

depends on which Dorian you are talking about.

[NarcissisticDeity]

how ironic that ND loves a quote that contains an opinion that totally goes against what he has been arguing..LOL

see how selective he is about what quotes he chooses to acknowledge and which ones he igonres?

Lee says ronnie would win - ND loves it.

Lee says dorian was not as symmetrical - ND quietly ignores this part LOL

 

ps ND, your emails worked - muscletime finally changed the 95 olympia covershot to one of dorian..

and they used the infamous lat spread that was made fun of for dozens of posts!

hahahahahahahhahaahahaha hahaha!

 

You're like Neo you're ignorant to what symmetry is , he tried the same stupid angle as you and he got punished for it .

pay attention Hulkster because I never ' quietly ignored ' anything , Lee Priest was stating the obvious Ronnie does have better symmetry than Dorian , well at least ONE aspect of it and the aspect he's referring to his Ronnie has a smaller waist & hips , and smaller joints . now Dorian has a clear advantage over Ronnie in the OTHER aspect of symmetry which includes balance & proportion hence the Bev Francis quote raving about his ' near perfect ' symmetry , so for a person who constantly brags about how I don't know how to evaluate physiques you should have known this lol but then again when you type that you're just projecting your own inadequacies on me 

Now that was a very poor diversion attempt from your original claim and my rebuttal ( so much for you knowing how to argue ) your original claim was " I fear knowledgeable fans everywhere " and you posted a link to the popular opinion poll which proves nothing other than Ronnie being more popular and my response was ' No I don't ' and posted the Priest


Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

now you look at this quote and it crushes a LOT of your stupid ass claims , such as Dorian 1993 was good for 1993 but the sport has ' progressed ' lol and you always claim how Ronnie 99 would blow Dorian out of the water , and low and behold Lee Priest says Dorian ' would easily beat Ronnie ' NOT just barely , not maybe , but ' easily ' now unlike you I wont cling to this for dear life because its subjective and it doesn't make it a fact , but please pay attention to the reasons why he believe Dorian would beat Ronnie easily but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best. again converging evidence which backs up my original claim of Dorian being more complete ( all over ) and having better conditioning which are not subjective lol oh and I might add Lee Priest is a very knowledgeable bodybuilder and his opinion matters certainly more than yours because he seen them both at their bests and you , well you seen Nimrod King's calf lmfao

you FEAR every pro Dorian statement for a reason , you've denied every pro Dorian statement for a reason and we all know the reason don't we? lol

and I love how you're knocking Dorian's front latspread and you are all the other idiots are bashing it , this shows your idiocy plain & simple , Lee Haney used to own the front latspread and then Dorian came along and eclipsed his , Dorian's front lat spread is unmatched even to this day , Ronnie never had a front latspread like Dorians .

this my friend is perfection

[NarcissisticDeity]

  The last time I checked, those people who voted are not I.F.B.B judges and not exactly knowledgeable about how bodybuilding is judged. The average bodybuilding fan has an I.Q of 90 and has never judged a bodybuilding contest, and yet you think that pol results mean anything?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

sucky making a great point as usual ! Great post ! I've constantly proven just the morons in this thread don't know how bodybuilding is judged nevermind where the poll was . they didn't even know the criteria until I posted it and they're going to comment on how Ronnie is better? lol total ignorance .

[pumpster]

oh okay.

You're still a jackass.

hahahahaha your left out delusional & hate-filled with serious baggage.

[NarcissisticDeity]

i love how on the other site dorian is being owned in the voting badly, and people are saying he is not even in ronnies league. its obvious he is not, lol.


nd just keeps repeating the same arguments regardless of points made by others, and regardless if he is proven wrong. like i said, the guy is an idiot and this thread should be locked. the argument is clearly over, other sites show ronnie is way ahead, the arguments made by nd are lame, and he just repeats the same non sense over and over.

Another moron who doesn't know how to argue . you people are simple Hulkster tried this ' argument ' a long time ago , its known as the argument ad populum . " well so many people think Ronnie is better so he is , all these people can't be wrong ' lol such pathetic logic and weak reasoning

no the only thing these polls prove is that the OPINION that Ronnie is so much better is popular and this popular opinion does NOT make it a fact . I hope this helps

and my arguments aren't stupid my argument is sound and proven , I claimed Dorian would beat Ronnie because he simply meets the criteria better than Ronnie , because he has better balance & proportion , better density & conditioning , all points which I proved after the fact mind you  and because depending on the year he has a clear advantage in muscular bulk and he's a better technical poser thats the criteria in a nutshell and Dorian satisfies it better than Ronnie , I've consistently proven my points what have you done? have you proven that Ronnie has better conditioning & density than Dorian? NO you've made blanket statements , have you proved Ronnie has better balance & proportion? NO , what have you done? nothing lol you've made blanket statements and pointed to popular opinion as fact lol your argument is garbage , do yourself a favor and stop posting we have an abundance of idiots already , we don't need anymore .

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahahahaha your left out delusional & hate-filled with serious baggage.

This is hate filled , please show me the post where I had this type of hate inspired meltdown lol

[pumpster]

Another moron who doesn't know how to argue

Translation: if you're losing like i am go with deflections.

[pumpster]

This is hate filled , please show me the post where I had this type of hate inspired meltdown lol

Translation part deux: congratulate yourself left and right and continue to try desperate thread hijacks-anything to divert attention..

[Hulkster]

psst! Hey dorian idiots - time to get into panic/defense mode once again lol

 

 deserved a perfect score? my ass...

[Hulkster]

its truly amazing how badly 99 Ronnie kills a 93/95 dorian..


yet when almost everyone agrees, the dorian idiots dismiss it as 'nothing"

lol yeah sure..

[Necrosis]

Another moron who doesn't know how to argue . you people are simple Hulkster tried this ' argument ' a long time ago , its known as the argument ad populum . " well so many people think Ronnie is better so he is , all these people can't be wrong ' lol such pathetic logic and weak reasoning

no the only thing these polls prove is that the OPINION that Ronnie is so much better is popular and this popular opinion does NOT make it a fact . I hope this helps

and my arguments aren't stupid my argument is sound and proven , I claimed Dorian would beat Ronnie because he simply meets the criteria better than Ronnie , because he has better balance & proportion , better density & conditioning , all points which I proved after the fact mind you  and because depending on the year he has a clear advantage in muscular bulk and he's a better technical poser thats the criteria in a nutshell and Dorian satisfies it better than Ronnie , I've consistently proven my points what have you done? have you proven that Ronnie has better conditioning & density than Dorian? NO you've made blanket statements , have you proved Ronnie has better balance & proportion? NO , what have you done? nothing lol you've made blanket statements and pointed to popular opinion as fact lol your argument is garbage , do yourself a favor and stop posting we have an abundance of idiots already , we don't need anymore .

i only read the first little bit of this novel but i was laughing so hard i nearly busted my guts. i dont know how to argue? LOLOLOLOLLO.

opinion doesnt make it fact? loloololololo, well then why are you posting opinions of judges when they also never witnessed a showdown between the two at their bests. judges make bone head decisions that fans dont sometimes. like for example, jay cutler winning. LMAO, judging bodybuilding is no hard feat, you seem to think its a difficult task, its very easy too do.

[Necrosis]

majority opinion is often based on evidence and persausive arguments and proof. enough said. if everyone beleives ronnie was better then what do you have in this imaginary posedown?

[Hulkster]

LMAO, judging bodybuilding is no hard feat, you seem to think its a difficult task, its very easy too do.
 
 

of course it isn't.

but to ND, simple tasks and simple logic or physique evaluation seem incredibly difficult to understand.

most fans (as we can clearly see) are not that stupid.

according to ND, in order to judge a contest properly you have to listen to exactly what Uncle Joe says and disregard anything you see onstage..

luckily, fans who evaluate physiques don't do this.

makes them a lot better.

eg. the judges gave this a PERFECT score in the SYMMETRY ROUND?

 

luckily, hardcore fans know better.

too bad ND doesn't..

[Marty Champions]

out of these 4 olympians id sa the neegar on the right wins[/img][/img][/img]

[pumpster]

of course it isn't.

but to ND, simple tasks and simple logic or physique evaluation seem incredibly difficult to understand.

most fans (as we can clearly see) are not that stupid.

according to ND, in order to judge a contest properly you have to listen to exactly what Uncle Joe says and disregard anything you see onstage..

ND seems to have to use that brain very very hard to judge physiques.

[Necrosis]

of course it isn't.

but to ND, simple tasks and simple logic or physique evaluation seem incredibly difficult to understand.

most fans (as we can clearly see) are not that stupid.

according to ND, in order to judge a contest properly you have to listen to exactly what Uncle Joe says and disregard anything you see onstage..

luckily, fans who evaluate physiques don't do this.

makes them a lot better.

eg. the judges gave this a PERFECT score in the SYMMETRY ROUND?

 

luckily, hardcore fans know better.

too bad ND doesn't..

im fair but in all seriousnous the fact that he won the olympia looking like that is an outrage. his arms are below mediocre from the front and back, with poor poor seperation and definition.

and those quads are local level, lol. they are bigger then local level, but the definition, seperation, detail in that pose is completely missing. i mean you cant even see any seperation, its like a blob of muscle, and it lacks sweep and all shape. some of the worst quads in professional bodybuilding are presented in that photo.

[Hulkster]

im fair but in all seriousnous the fact that he won the olympia looking like that is an outrage. his arms are below mediocre from the front and back, with poor poor seperation and definition.

and those quads are local level, lol. they are bigger then local level, but the definition, seperation, detail in that pose is completely missing. i mean you cant even see any seperation, its like a blob of muscle, and it lacks sweep and all shape. some of the worst quads in professional bodybuilding are presented in that photo.

agreed.

but ND still says we are all morons (or have IQ's below 90? ) for not agreeing with the "superhuman judges" or the 'perfect score"

LMAO 

what an idiot.

[Hulkster]

what is truly scary is that the 93 version ('best') was not much different than the 94 version..

truly sad given the scoring.

[Hulkster]

dorian getting owned in the arm department

hahahahahaa

[Necrosis]

what is truly scary is that the 93 version ('best') was not much different than the 94 version..

truly sad given the scoring.

his arms are puffy as hell there.

[Hulkster]

his arms are puffy as hell there.

yeah because he was in better condition than 99 ronnie:

 

[sculpture]

Sad this man was allowed perfect scores.

[img]

[sculpture]

Brutal taper displayed by the man on the right
[img]

[NarcissisticDeity]

i only read the first little bit of this novel but i was laughing so hard i nearly busted my guts. i dont know how to argue? LOLOLOLOLLO.

opinion doesnt make it fact? loloololololo, well then why are you posting opinions of judges when they also never witnessed a showdown between the two at their bests. judges make bone head decisions that fans dont sometimes. like for example, jay cutler winning. LMAO, judging bodybuilding is no hard feat, you seem to think its a difficult task, its very easy too do.

Again instead of proving your case , what do you do? nothing and judges base their opinion on a set of criteria not on personal preference , and apparently judging physiques is not very easy hence why NONE of you people can even grasp the simplest concepts , it remind me of when Hulkster claimed he's just as qualified to judge based solely on pictures than the judges are live & in person , pure stupidity .

again prove your point don't make blanket statements thats how its done.

[NarcissisticDeity]

majority opinion is often based on evidence and persausive arguments and proof. enough said. if everyone beleives ronnie was better then what do you have in this imaginary posedown?

You always attempt to type big words yet can't even spell them lol this makes you look retarded , ok a few typos but what the fuck .

majority opinion is junk see argument ad populum. 88% of Americans are Christians and they all believe is Jesus Christ is God , 88% of people can't be wrong  weak logic