Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL owning ND is so damn easy!

ND you always assume that opinions (that are easily proven wrong) are FACT and it bites you in the ass every time.

you say we must be wrong because we 'can't know more than Ronnie" yet here we have Flex stating his condition was the best of his life in 99 (lol) and know you are forced to admit that even though you say 'we can't know more than Flex" its obvious to everyone that he was incorrect in his own asessment.

the same is true of Ronnie.

when are you going to start using your own eyes and brains for once?

Ronnie WAS in better shape at the 99 olympia than he was at the AC because he had virtually identical conditioning, with more size and fullness.

he looked a little flat at the AC in comparison.

just use your own damn eyes for once.

the 'gold standard' is not the AC according to most who have seen all the 99 olympia stuff.

remember that.

No he was NOT in better shape at the 99 Olympia , and his conditioning was NOT ' virtually identical ' you didn't own jack except yourself . even your boy bizzy knows Ronnie was in better condition at the Arnold you're the ONLY idiot who clings to this bullshit

Flex doesn't have anything to do with Ronnie , Ronnie himself said his conditioning at the 98 Olympia was his best and whenever Ronnie's best showing ever is mentioned it is NOT I repeat for the retarded it is NOT the 1999 Mr Olympia its the 2001 Arnold Classic because his conditioning was at its all-time best

Ronnie 2001 Arnold Classic is drier and HARDER than 1999 Olympia this is a fact confirmed by pictures and writers who were there

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.


Shawn Perine notice 1999 Olympia is not mentioned , gee I wonder why 


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.  In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.

Impressive split biceps.  An awesome back double biceps on which muscle fights with muscle to hang onto his frame.  A big, big lat spead promted Dorian "backman" yates to comment, "ronnie looks like a cartoon character".  when doing back poses, ronnie would hitch up his trunks to expose ripped glutes.


Again stating the obvious , Ronnie was fuller in 99 albeit not as hard or as dry

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


See a trend here?

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

No mention of the 1999 Mr Olympia

Ronnie Coleman Pro Bodybuilding Weekly

Ronnie what was your best Olympia

Ronnie : I would have to say my first , because my conditioning was spot-on.

Again Ronnie echoing the sentiments of the others , this is call converging of evidence so its NOT just Ronnie claiming this and again not one single mention of the 1999 Olympia as being Ronnie's best showing because it wasn't . you may like it better , you may think he's better it does not change the FACT that 99 isn't his Gold Standard

you are owned 

[NarcissisticDeity]

um..yes I am.

and in case you didn't notice dumbass, so is everone else..except you and two others.

you three think you know more than everyone else in the entire bb community?

priceless..

 

lmfao you're getting owned left & right lol you're the idiot who thinks they know more than the writers , competitors and the judges

aren't you the complete idiot who claimed you're just as qualified to judge a contest sitting at home on your pc than real judge who were live and in person? what a tool so much for you and the ' entire bb community '

[NarcissisticDeity]

not at all.

the entire bbing community?

what about the polls and articles from mags i posted.

are you this delusional with everything?

we've been through this before:  what about dillet, flex, priest, samir, mcgough, horton, ronnie, dugdale, labrada, levrone, etc. 

but i'm certainly not going to totally discredit top pro's and others in the industry with a shit load of experience.  this are people who make their living off of bbing whether that's competing, writing, photography etc.

the fact that you think you know more than them and you word is more valid is extremely pathetic - see the thread making fun of your nuthugging.

Great post ! and all true

[NarcissisticDeity]

hulkster,

notice the amount of people NOT mentioning ronnie's name.

you claim the entire bbing community is on your side and has the same views of you (could you be any more of a delusional loser?), but not even this board is on your side with most of the bullshit you claim.

this is when you que the thread making fun of your nuthugging.

the ' entire bb community ' agrees though lol the nutt-huggers are taking a beating boy

Hulkster is the most delusional and ignorant loser

[Hulkster]

, and his conditioning was NOT ' virtually identical

no, not at all.

why are you so fucking stupid?

fuck off until you can actually SHOW that what you claim is true, is actually true.

until then, real life owns your ass:

[Hulkster]

notice: virtually identically conditioning.

CHALLENGE TO ND: if Ronnie really was in such better condition at the AC than the 99 O, PROVE IT:

show it to all of us, we are all waiting:

 

oh, and real life owns your ass all the time too:

[Hulkster]

we are waiting ND...

 

are you going to run away from this just like you did the truce thread when you couldn't acknowledge what real life shows us?

lol

you can't show that Ronnie was in noticably better shape and you KNOW IT:

run way little boy.

go on home like you always do!

 

[slayer]

lee haney 8-0 case closed!
arnie 7-0
dorian 6-0

ronnie 8-2 equalls 2 time loser, the stupid idiot should have retired when that piece of shit lat started deflating..

ronnie could not dominate his field like the other 3.
scoring controversy surrounded half of his wins , while haney easilly won all 8 with no one even close besides gaspari 1 yr.

[divcom]

lee haney 8-0 case closed!
arnie 7-0
dorian 6-0

ronnie 8-2 equalls 2 time loser, the stupid idiot should have retired when that piece of shit lat started deflating..

ronnie could not dominate his field like the other 3.
scoring controversy surrounded half of his wins , while haney easilly won all 8 with no one even close besides gaspari 1 yr.

yep...yates did take care of business with one arm than bloat the next year.  he didnt need the judges help at all. 

haney 8-0
ronnie 8-2
arnold 7-0

ronnie still got 8 before his defeat.  yates is the most incomplete of the group.  he got arms like f##kin Kamali.

[pumpster]

Arnold retired early and could have won easily up until
1983 had he kept the same physique he had 73-75 which
would have been very possible.
The best bodybuilding physique ever was Ronnie 1999 Olympia.
If Arnold had access to todays drugs and technology I think he would
have surpassed any physique with his drive and intellect.

Ronnie @ the 1999 Olympia

Arnold would not have "won easily" in fair contests, up to and including those he did win.

[pumpster]

lee haney 8-0 case closed!
arnie 7-0
dorian 6-0

ronnie 8-2 equalls 2 time loser, the stupid idiot should have retired when that piece of shit lat started deflating..

ronnie could not dominate his field like the other 3.
scoring controversy surrounded half of his wins , while haney easilly won all 8 with no one even close besides gaspari 1 yr.

Only an idiot would rely mainly on numbers, when in fact the contest results were often highly influenced by Weider politics and magazine sales lol.

[dantelis]

Ronnie came in with in the greatest shape of all time in 88 and would be even better if he didn't have the gyno.

But of all time, probably Arnold coz he could've won more.

In 88?!?  Was Ronnie even competing back in the 80's?

[swilkins1984]

I'd say that Ronnie is based on O wins, number of titles, and size . Physique-wise and what I consider the standard for bb, its a toss up between Flex, Kevin, and Shawn.

[gordiano]

Can you assholes keep your schmoing in your 1500 page gay-o-rama.......

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, not at all.

why are you so fucking stupid?

fuck off until you can actually SHOW that what you claim is true, is actually true.

until then, real life owns your ass:

real life is NOT pictures jackass , real life is the contest reporters who were ON STAGE with the competitors LIVE and in PERSON and I love you pathetic attempt at showing select pictures to ' prove ' your points lmfao how sad you think these ' comparisons ' prove anything other than your complete ignorance and contradiction to ALL of the parties in question , pictures are NOT an accurate means in which to ascertain one's conditioning and overall appearance , you figured you'd know this by know because looking only at pictures you came to the epiphany Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia , Lee Labrada has crappy calves and abs , Matt Mendenhall was blocky , and Ronnie has more detail in his calves than Dorian Yates LMFAO so much for your pictures and your ignorant interpretation of them

Bob Chick GetBig 10 - 05 - 2007

THis is why pictures will never replace actually being there, in person and close to the stage....


according to you he's wrong lol

Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007

Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.

A contest photographer and according to you he's also wrong

Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007

The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...


Once again you're claiming he's wrong despite NEVER once seeing a pro contest in your life

Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).

See a pattern here? all these eyewitnesses are wrong and Hulkster is right  this is ONE of the many reasons you're a troll and a stupid one at that , pictures mean NOTHING compared to firsthand eyewitnesses testimony and ALL of the parties who speak on the topic claim the same

Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry in 1999 as he was in 1998 or 2001 get over it retard and watch me play your game now , picking select pics that show the obvious.

owned

[NarcissisticDeity]

we are waiting ND...

 

are you going to run away from this just like you did the truce thread when you couldn't acknowledge what real life shows us?

lol

you can't show that Ronnie was in noticably better shape and you KNOW IT:

run way little boy.

go on home like you always do!

 

Stop speaking for everyone ' we're waiting ' I'm waiting for you to learn about competitive bodybuilding 

and stop lying I never ran away from the truce thread thats your bull shit , please show me where I said " I'm done with this thread " I can show you where you said that  I haven't posted on that thread for a while I never once said " I'm not posting here anymore " again you're lucky I'm even responding to you and your nonsense.  see above for the quotes and pics that PROVE my point of view .

pay attention you moron , NO ONE other than you is claiming Ronnie 99 is better conditioned than 2001 or 1998 in fact everyone is saying quite the opposite and they were all there and you weren't and the pictures don't mean jack , Ronnie Coleman himself said he was better conditioned in 1998 you can't counter this all you can do is bitch

owned  again

[NarcissisticDeity]

Only an idiot would rely mainly on numbers, when in fact the contest results were often highly influenced by Weider politics and magazine sales lol.

Then Ronnie's 8 Olympia were also influenced by the same Weider politics  oh no you're a complete nutt hugger who's tried to argue he dominated in 2001 by losing the whole prejudging , great logic , Ronnie is the only one who won fair & square lmfao

[MCWAY]

Yates and Schwarzenegger were both better and more dominant in their times. Coleman's win percentage is way down and even during his Olympia reign he was very vulnerable and people like Levrone felt they could beat him at any moment. Coleman also faced some of the worst competition in the history of the sport towards the end of his career.

You have to quantify and qualify what makes someone the greatest of all time. Which contests do you have to win? Some would suggest that Arnold's Olympia wins aren't enough, because the Mr. Olympia WAS NOT ALWAYS CONSIDERED the best contest on the planet. Remember that Sergio is a three-time Mr. Olympia. But, one of those Os, he got uncontested. Arnold faced nothing but scrubs at the 1971 Mr. Olympia, as those bodybuilders who would have really challenged him got beat by Bill Pearl at the NABBA Mr. Universe, considered the biggest show in the world at that time (thus getting suspended from the Olympia).

lee haney 8-0 case closed!
arnie 7-0
dorian 6-0

ronnie 8-2 equalls 2 time loser, the stupid idiot should have retired when that piece of shit lat started deflating..

ronnie could not dominate his field like the other 3.
scoring controversy surrounded half of his wins , while haney easilly won all 8 with no one even close besides gaspari 1 yr.

Your numbers are wrong, on this one, slayer.

Haney:     8-1 (89%) - He placed 3rd his rookie year to Samir Bannout and Mohammed Makkawy
Schwarz.: 7-1 (88%) - He placed 2nd to Sergio Oliva, at his first Olympia.
Yates:      6-1 (86%) - His first Olympia, he placed second as well, to Lee Haney.
Coleman:  8-7 (53%) - Ronnie placed "16th" at his first Olympia in '92. He would go on to place 15th, 10th, 6th, and 9th, before getting his first win. And, as you know, he placed 2nd and 4th in the last two Olympias.



Of course, if we're going by sheer Olympia winning percentage, the greatest of all time is Larry Scott, which means the greatest of all times (Olympia-wise) would be, based on number of wins out of number of attempts:

Scott   -   2/2 (100%)
Haney  -   8/9 (89%)
Schwarz.- 7/8 (88%)
Yates    -  6/7 (86%)
Coleman - 8/15 (53%)

All the other Mr. O winners are under 50%.

[Hulkster]

real life is NOT pictures jackass , real life is the contest reporters who were ON STAGE with the competitors LIVE and in PERSON and I love you pathetic attempt at showing select pictures to ' prove ' your points lmfao how sad you think these ' comparisons ' prove anything other than your complete ignorance and contradiction to ALL of the parties in question , pictures are NOT an accurate means in which to ascertain one's conditioning and overall appearance , you figured you'd know this by know because looking only at pictures you came to the epiphany Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia , Lee Labrada has crappy calves and abs , Matt Mendenhall was blocky , and Ronnie has more detail in his calves than Dorian Yates LMFAO so much for your pictures and your ignorant interpretation of them

Bob Chick GetBig 10 - 05 - 2007

THis is why pictures will never replace actually being there, in person and close to the stage....


according to you he's wrong lol

Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007

Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.

A contest photographer and according to you he's also wrong

Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007

The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...


Once again you're claiming he's wrong despite NEVER once seeing a pro contest in your life

Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).

See a pattern here? all these eyewitnesses are wrong and Hulkster is right  this is ONE of the many reasons you're a troll and a stupid one at that , pictures mean NOTHING compared to firsthand eyewitnesses testimony and ALL of the parties who speak on the topic claim the same

Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry in 1999 as he was in 1998 or 2001 get over it retard and watch me play your game now , picking select pics that show the obvious.

owned

wow. great comparison pics ND..

you fear great comparisons like the ones I posted because they show that your quotes and your claims are not correct..Ronnie in 99 was virtually identical in terms of conditioning to his AC form, only bigger and more full.

thankfully, everyone can see through your bullshit..

[Hulkster]

NO ONE other than you is claiming Ronnie 99 is better conditioned than 2001 or 1998 in fact everyone is saying quite the opposite

yeah, no one except for Peter Fucking McGough..

who is quoted as stating Ronnie was in better shape in 99 than in 98.

the quote is in the truce thread, moron..go back and read it..

 

[England_1]

wow. great comparison pics ND..

you fear great comparisons like the ones I posted because they show that your quotes and your claims are not correct..Ronnie in 99 was virtually identical in terms of conditioning to his AC form, only bigger and more full.

thankfully, everyone can see through your bullshit..

All lighting buddy. 99 was dark as a disco. Notice under 98 and 01ASC lighting Coleman doesn't look nearly as ripped, but according to Coleman himself he was more ripped!

[delta9mda]

Most Olympia wins , most career wins Yes !

Olympia wins? Haney did it first. most career wins, sure Ronnie has that.

[delta9mda]

hulky, get over the biceps thing man. they are really not a major muscle and are actually one of the smaller muscles that get displayed.

[England_1]

Yates should have won in 91. Haney's legs were pathetic.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wow. great comparison pics ND..

you fear great comparisons like the ones I posted because they show that your quotes and your claims are not correct..Ronnie in 99 was virtually identical in terms of conditioning to his AC form, only bigger and more full.

thankfully, everyone can see through your bullshit..

Did you miss the pictures I posted MORON? did you?  did you miss the quotes I posted telling YOU pictures are worthless compared to actually being there? did you?  did you miss the quotes from eyewitnesses including Ronnie Coleman himself explaining exactly when his bes conditioned contests were and 1999 Mr Olympia was NOT mentioned?


Hulkster you're on this crusade to gather followers who might disagree with me as your validation you're right FYI you idiot NO ONE is claiming Ronnie 1999 Mr Olympia is his best showing ever , much to your chagrin NO ONE agrees with you with the possible exception of bizzy and he already said his conditioning isn't as good lmfao what do you have? NOTHING you're a retard ice skating up hill what are you left with ? denial , photoshopped pictures , made up quotes and telling all the eyewitness who were actually live at the show they're wrong and you sitting at home is right , you're a troll and not a very bright on at that.