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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39600 on: January 19, 2008, 01:38:50 AM »
The greatest bodybuilder of all-time has a COMPLETE physique. That takes Coleman out of the running right there. In 1993 Yates was perfect. No flaws. 257lbs and SHREDDED. Could you imagine this physique under 1999 discotec lighting  :o











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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39601 on: January 19, 2008, 01:40:56 AM »

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39602 on: January 19, 2008, 05:31:58 AM »
Yates and Schwarzenegger were both better and more dominant in their times. Coleman's win percentage is way down and even during his Olympia reign he was very vulnerable and people like Levrone felt they could beat him at any moment. Coleman also faced some of the worst competition in the history of the sport towards the end of his career.
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39603 on: January 19, 2008, 05:37:08 AM »
truce thread PART II

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39604 on: January 19, 2008, 07:38:20 AM »
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Hulkster put up or show up , stop making shit up . find me one single quote that says Ronnie Coleman was hard and drier in 99 than 98 , oh thats right you can't 


you are such a fucking moron >:(

read and weep idiot:

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In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart.

there you have it moron: size, condition and fullness he lacked a year earlier.

what do you say ND, when you have a quote right here from Peter Fucking McGough that says Ronnie was bigger in 99, better conditioned in 99 and more full in 99..you run  no doubt. LOL what a pathetic loser.


from Flex Magazine, Sept. 2005:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

ND take note: Peter is discussing the BEST EVER Mr. O's, and notice that the 1999 Mr. O is listed by Peter NOT THE 1998 OLYMPIA.

READ THAT AGAIN IDIOT: NOT THE 1998 OLYMPIA.

PETER PREFERS THE 99 FORM OVER THE 98 FORM.

there moron.

right on paper. Peter feels his 99 form was better than his 98 form.

now fuck off before I own you again.

so much for your claim that i was 'making shit up" LOL

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39605 on: January 19, 2008, 07:40:54 AM »
oh really?  ::)

see what these idiots don't seem to understand is that just becuase dorian looked pretty good in 93 does not in ANY WAY mean that Ronnie was not better here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

which he was. much better detail, much better shape, much better taper, much better vascularity, way better aesethetics, equal size.

Dorian was NOT this good. period.

ND ran away for a reason.

this is it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #39606 on: January 19, 2008, 07:43:32 AM »
Peter McGough talking about how Ronnie's 99 olympia form was better than his 98 form:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

the quote ND claims doesn't exist. LOL

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #39607 on: January 19, 2008, 08:27:01 AM »
Peter McGough talking about how Ronnie's 99 olympia form was better than his 98 form:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

the quote ND claims doesn't exist. LOL

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Hulk, I really do not know...

Are we missing something here? I can not see what was so good about dorian? OK he had size, but look like a hot mess.

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39608 on: January 19, 2008, 08:29:06 AM »
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Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry in 1999 as he was in 1998

not according to your best friend Peter McGough.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #39609 on: January 19, 2008, 08:30:57 AM »
Hulk, I really do not know...

Are we missing something here? I can not see what was so good about dorian? OK he had size, but look like a hot mess.

dorian was good for his time, which does not transcend all the way into the late 90's when Ronnie hit his peak.

that is the key that these three idiots can't understand that everyone else can.

dorian was good.

ronnie in 99 as displayed on that video was much better.

and thats really all there is to it.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #39610 on: January 19, 2008, 08:55:58 AM »
dorian was good for his time, which does not transcend all the way into the late 90's when Ronnie hit his peak.

that is the key that these three idiots can't understand that everyone else can.

dorian was good.

ronnie in 99 as displayed on that video was much better.

and thats really all there is to it.



Well said hulkster!!

Ronnie is the man

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39611 on: January 19, 2008, 09:05:39 AM »
you are such a fucking moron >:(

read and weep idiot:

there you have it moron: size, condition and fullness he lacked a year earlier.

what do you say ND, when you have a quote right here from Peter Fucking McGough that says Ronnie was bigger in 99, better conditioned in 99 and more full in 99..you run  no doubt. LOL what a pathetic loser.


from Flex Magazine, Sept. 2005:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_23/ai_n15346614

ND take note: Peter is discussing the BEST EVER Mr. O's, and notice that the 1999 Mr. O is listed by Peter NOT THE 1998 OLYMPIA.

READ THAT AGAIN IDIOT: NOT THE 1998 OLYMPIA.

PETER PREFERS THE 99 FORM OVER THE 98 FORM.

there moron.

right on paper. Peter feels his 99 form was better than his 98 form.

now fuck off before I own you again.

so much for your claim that i was 'making shit up" LOL

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You're an idiot of epic proportions , but this occasion its because you think this has not been addressed before , this is old news and you were corrected and are going to be corrected again. pay attention idiot

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart.

the ONLY thing Ronnie did NOT have the previous year was the FULLNESS he exhibited size , condition but only lacked the fullness NO WHERE does this say Ronnie is harder and drier in 1999 NO WHERE you had to try and make a leap because you're proven wrong

1999 Mr Olympia is NOT considered to be his best showing , not by Ronnie and not by any of the writers specifically because his conditioning lags behind 1998 and 2001 Arnold Classic , Shawn Perine , Peter McGough , Ronnie Coleman all mention his best showings and 1999 isn't it , and how could it not be? he was just as conditioned ( according to you alone , even bizzy admits he wasn't ) how could 99 not be considered his best? I'll tell you why because he wasn't as hard or dry as he was in 98 and 01 this is a proven fact

Peter McGough
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold

NO WHERE does it say 1999 Mr Olympia and why not? if according to you he was at least 10 pounds heavier and identical condition , because he's NOT


review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.  In comparison to 98, his thighs are enourmous with a greater sweep and his front delts have improved; plus the pec anomaly (gyno) is no longer present.

Impressive split biceps.  An awesome back double biceps on which muscle fights with muscle to hang onto his frame.  A big, big lat spead promted Dorian "backman" yates to comment, "ronnie looks like a cartoon character".  when doing back poses, ronnie would hitch up his trunks to expose ripped glutes.

ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98.

Gee so much for being equal or better conditioned lol


Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98

Whoa differing years and same synopsis Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry

Ronnie Coleman Pro Bodybuilding Weekly 2007

Ronnie what was your best Olympia?

Ronnie : I would have to say my first , because my conditioning was spot-on "

my conditioning was spot-on

NO WHERE did McGough contradict himself in fact he's on record many times saying Ronnie was NOT as hard or as dry in 99 as 1998 and this in confirmed by Ronnie Coleman himself thats called convergence of evidence , and couple that with everyone quoting Ronnie's best overall package as the 2001 Arnold Classic ( or 98 Olympia ) NOT 1999 Mr Olympia

you're a liar and you're an idiot and I never ran from you I've answered every single one of your retarded statements its YOU who is running from the facts kid not me .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #39612 on: January 19, 2008, 09:06:43 AM »


Are we missing something here? I can not see what was so good about dorian? OK he had size, but look like a hot mess.

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39613 on: January 19, 2008, 09:09:32 AM »
see what these idiots don't seem to understand is that just becuase dorian looked pretty good in 93 does not in ANY WAY mean that Ronnie was not better here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

which he was. much better detail, much better shape, much better taper, much better vascularity, way better aesethetics, equal size.

Dorian was NOT this good. period.

ND ran away for a reason.

this is it.



LMFAO all of Hulkster's criteria Ronnie is better LMFAO trying to fluff up the advantages , try using the the IFBB judging criteria

Muscular Bulk Dorian 93 pushes with Ronnie 99
Muscular density - Dorian 93 by a landslide
Muscular balance - Dorian by a landside
Conditioning - Dorian again by a landslide

couple that with Dorian being more complete and a better poser and Ronnie 99 would be beaten AGAIN by Yates for the 8th time lmfao

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39614 on: January 19, 2008, 09:14:04 AM »
ND, if Ronnie was in better shape in 1999, please explain why Peter specifically metioned 1999 in that article, and NOT 1998.

LOL

you are so stupid its unreal..

and I love how you simply dismiss the quote and post another contradictory quote instead lol ::).

when are you going to finally understand that when you have TWO CONTRADICTORY QUOTES from the same person we don't know which one is correct..

that is, until we look at real life:

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport


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you challened me to produce the quote and I did and owned your ass.

now you don't know what to do, except frantically start posting more quotes lol

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39615 on: January 19, 2008, 09:14:19 AM »
not according to your best friend Peter McGough.


ND is crying now. :'(



Again you're a liar where does it say specifically he's harder & drier it doesn't , it says he was lacking fullness .

lets see you knowingly used photoshopped pics , you've lied and made up quotes and now you're saying a quote says something it doesn't

the meltdown continues .

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39616 on: January 19, 2008, 09:16:32 AM »
ND, people have constantly called you out on your inability to read the english language.

this is no different.

have you taken classes yet?
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39617 on: January 19, 2008, 09:18:26 AM »
ND, if Ronnie was in better shape in 1999, please explain why Peter specifically metioned 1999 in that article, and NOT 1998.

LOL

you are so stupid its unreal..

and I love how you simply dismiss the quote and post another contradictory quote instead lol ::).

when are you going to finally understand that when you have TWO CONTRADICTORY QUOTES from the same person we don't know which one is correct..

that is, until we look at real life:

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport


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you challened me to produce the quote and I did and owned your ass.

now you don't know what to do, except frantically start posting more quotes lol

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Moron the quote does NOT contradict each other NO WHERE does it say Ronnie is harder or drier you're a liar , the quote says he lacked FULLNESS NO WHERE does it say he was harder or drier in 1999  ;) again show me one single quote that says Ronnie is harder or drier than 1998 , you can't never could lmfao

I posted three quotes shutting your bullshit down , I'm waiting  ;)


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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39618 on: January 19, 2008, 09:20:07 AM »
LOL so now ND is going by the number of quotes posted vs the number of contradictory ones posted LOL

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ND, this sport is not for you. sorry.

you don't seem to understand how it works.

its based on visuals.

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

you can post quotes back and fourth all you want, it still doesn't change this video., showing Ronnie looking better than he did in 98 AND better than anything dorian ever presented..

hope this helps.
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39619 on: January 19, 2008, 09:20:27 AM »
ND, people have constantly called you out on your inability to read the english language.

this is no different.

have you taken classes yet?

Hulkster I know you went to some shit ass Canadian ' university ' but please show me where in the quote it says Ronnie Coleman was HARDER or DRIER than 1998 please do , to use your stupidity " we're all waiting ' lol

In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart.


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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39620 on: January 19, 2008, 09:21:58 AM »
LMFAO all of Hulkster's criteria Ronnie is better LMFAO trying to fluff up the advantages , try using the the IFBB judging criteria

Muscular Bulk Dorian 93 pushes with Ronnie 99
Muscular density - Dorian 93 by a landslide
Muscular balance - Dorian by a landside
Conditioning - Dorian again by a landslide

sorry but you cuoldn't be more wrong with your assessment.

Muscular Bulk - Ronnie (bigger arms, delts, pecs, etc)
Muscular Symmetry - Ronnie (better v-taper, smaller joints, left-right correspondence)
Muscular Balance - tie (Dorian had underpar arms, Ronnie had underpar calves)
Muscular Conditioning - tie (Dorian had better density but flat as a pancake, Ronnie had better definition and fullness)
Muscular Shape - Ronnie (better bicep peaks, more square pecs, better thigh sweep, etc)

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39621 on: January 19, 2008, 09:22:23 AM »
LOL so now ND is going by the number of quotes posted vs the number of contradictory ones posted LOL

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ND, this sport is not for you. sorry.

you don't seem to understand how it works.

its based on visuals.

http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/Coleman/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport

you can post quotes back and fourth all you want, it still doesn't change this video.

hope this helps.

based on visuals of people who were actually there  ;) and all the people who were there said

Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry in 99 as he was in 98 lmfao keep posting that link it means jack the people who were there have spoken , including Coleman himself , you have what again?

Nothing  ;)

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39622 on: January 19, 2008, 09:23:06 AM »
ND, just so you know, my Canadian 'shit ass' university is rated in the top 20 universities ON THE PLANET. in addition to number one in Canada.

just so you know. :P
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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39623 on: January 19, 2008, 09:24:41 AM »
sorry but you cuoldn't be more wrong with your assessment.

Muscular Bulk - Ronnie (bigger arms, delts, pecs, etc)
Muscular Symmetry - Ronnie (better v-taper, smaller joints)
Muscular Balance - tie (Dorian had underpar arms, Ronnie had underpar calves)
Muscular Conditioning - tie (Dorian had better density but flat as a pancake, Ronnie had better definition and fullness)
Muscular Shape - Ronnie (better bicep peaks, more square pecs, better thigh sweep, etc)

LMFAO go away Neo stop injecting YOUR own criteria into the mix , like Hulkster trying to fluff up Ronnie's strengths

Dorian is more complete he lacks NOTHING Ronnie does , Dorian is a much better poser , he carries 257 DENSE CONDITIONED pounds , he has much superior balance & proportion

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Re: is Ronnie Coleman the greatest bodybuilder of ALL TIME?
« Reply #39624 on: January 19, 2008, 09:25:24 AM »
based on visuals of people who were actually there  ;) and all the people who were there said

Ronnie was NOT as hard or dry in 99 as he was in 98 lmfao keep posting that link it means jack the people who were there have spoken , including Coleman himself , you have what again?

Nothing  ;)

once again, you overlook the fact that Ronnie is quoted in M and F as stating at the 99 contest he was in better shape than in 98.

its in the mag. go and read it.

so, once again, for every one of your quotes, we have contradictory ones.

tell us ND, what are you going to do.

ps I am going to get someone on one of the boards who has the mag to scan it, and I will posted it for you to cry on.

just so you know.
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