Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

yeah, ND has lots of time to type super long responses.

the rest of us with real jobs don't LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you are seperating out all those attribues you moron which you can't do.

its the sum total of ALL those attributes into ONE package that cause Ronnie to advance the sport in 99.

eg. Dillett had more muscular bulk. but did he have the same shape, defition, freaky bodyparts, etc

no he didn't. but he beat Ronnie in terms of muscular bulk.

but didn't come close to the total package

HOW THE FUCK IS IT THAT YOU CAN BE A FAN FOR YEARS AND NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW THE JUDGING WORKS???

 

you break up the attributes by themselves and then ask how Ronnie advanced the sport looking at them seperately

it doesn't work that way you moron.

everything together is how it works.

NO ONE has had Ronnie's size (with that level of definition, that degree of shape, vascularity and taper).

some had more size (but lacked the shape detail etc.

some had better shape (eg Flex) but lacked the size, width etc.

some had better detail (eg. Renel Janvier) but lacked the size, vascularity shape.

etc

etc


etc.

WHY do you not understand this???

 

you are as dumb as a rock. go to school and learn to use that brain for a change..

you think typing the same nonsense over and over makes you right? and don't try and preach to me because that nonsense will get crushed in a moments breathe all the attributes you say?

stop running from the question how did Ronnie 1999 advance the sport compared to Dorian Yates using the criteria mind you not clinging to minute advantages

Did Ronnie 99 have more muscular bulk than Dorian at 269 pounds? NO thats not an advancement
Did Ronnie 99 have better density than Dorian Yates? NO
Did Ronnie 99 have better conditioning than Dorian Yates? NO
Did Ronnie 99 have better balance & proportion than Dorian Yates? NO
Was Ronnie a better technical poser than Dorian Yates ? NO

all the attributes are listed Dorian was ALL that and he was complete to boot six years earlier besides your severely lacking comprehension skills your point when all things considered is wrong , proven wrong so many times you still can't counter this argument and your only response is denial .

and if you think you keep typing I'm not smart it will make it true ( like your ' argument ' ) the big difference between you and I is you praised my intelligence I always told you how stupid you are 

[Hulkster]

people caught by surprise these are PAID PROFESSIONALS who's job is to attend contests are report how it unfolds

yes, and the non-weider ones were very critical of many of dorian's wins, such as 1994.

see MuscleMag's Johnny Fitness for example.

funny how the non-weider employees were critical, and all the weider people kissed ass LOL

 

[Hulkster]

you think typing the same nonsense over and over makes you right? and don't try and preach to me because that nonsense will get crushed in a moments breathe all the attributes you say?

stop running from the question how did Ronnie 1999 advance the sport compared to Dorian Yates using the criteria mind you not clinging to minute advantages

Did Ronnie 99 have more muscular bulk than Dorian at 269 pounds? NO thats not an advancement
Did Ronnie 99 have better density than Dorian Yates? NO
Did Ronnie 99 have better conditioning than Dorian Yates? NO
Did Ronnie 99 have better balance & proportion than Dorian Yates? NO
Was Ronnie a better technical poser than Dorian Yates ? NO

all the attributes are listed Dorian was ALL that and he was complete to boot six years earlier besides your severely lacking comprehension skills your point when all things considered is wrong , proven wrong so many times you still can't counter this argument and your only response is denial .

and if you think you keep typing I'm not smart it will make it true ( like your ' argument ' ) the big difference between you and I is you praised my intelligence I always told you how stupid you are 

*wooooosh*

(that was my post going right through ND's ears. he just doesn't get it)

 

lol read my post again ND, you missed the entire point and did exactly the same thing again - listing everything seperately is not how this sport is works nor is how it is judged.

oh and dorian at 269 was nowhere near as conditioned as 99 ronnie coleman.

just so you know.

you can't compared the 'walking anatomy chart' that ronnie was in 99 to a precontest bloated not dieted down dorian.

even if dorian's best friend "says so"

LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

they are not experts as there is no set criteria for one, so use that term loosely. also could you keep your responses smaller, im not reading all this shit. paraphrase your points.

LMFAO they are not experts but you are? despite NEVER once attending the said contests lol you're trying to speak on the matter of authority on who is better conditioned and telling the people who contradict your they're no experts

and keep my responses smaller , you're not reading all this shit , NO you did read all of it and like I predicted you don't have a response 

[NarcissisticDeity]

*wooooosh*

(that was my post going right through ND's ears. he just doesn't get it)

 

lol read my post again ND, you missed the entire point and did exactly the same thing again - listing everything seperately is not how this sport is works nor is how it is judged.

oh and dorian at 269 was nowhere near as conditioned as 99 ronnie coleman.

just so you know.

you can't compared the 'walking anatomy chart' that ronnie was in 99 to a precontest bloated not dieted down dorian.

even if dorian's best friend "says so"

LOL

 

No it was me who taught YOU Hulkster that all rounds are physique rounds, you never heard of that until I schooled you  and that is all the criteria listed separately HOWEVER the judges look for ALL of that individual criteria as a whole in every single round hence all rounds are physique rounds and as a whole Ronnie Coleman didn't advance that in 1999

and your response Yates was ' bloated ' at 269 pounds isn't worthy of a response and entertaining your nonsense that he wasn't even as conditioned as Ronnie 1999 ( for the sake of argument ) Dorian was 257 pounds in 1993 and 260 pounds in 1995 so ALL the points still stand and as usual you have nothing for me .

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, and the non-weider ones were very critical of many of dorian's wins, such as 1994.

see MuscleMag's Johnny Fitness for example.

funny how the non-weider employees were critical, and all the weider people kissed ass LOL

 

lmfao its so easy to own you 

Musclemag International Feb 1995

On the 1994 Mr Olympia

Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because  without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.

I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.

Thats Johnny Fitness kid and while he was stating the obvious ( he was far from his best ) he was still the clear winner 

[NarcissisticDeity]

yeah, ND has lots of time to type super long responses.

the rest of us with real jobs don't LOL

 

You keep making reference to my job as if that pertains to this argument which it doesn't , I could very well work at McDonalds that wouldn't change the fact I know a fuck-of-alot more about competitive bodybuilding than you 

[Hulkster]

I could very well work at McDonalds

we know.

your posts and reading comprehension skills make that a very real possibility...

bwahahahahahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

\

we know.

your posts and reading comprehension skills make that a very real possibility...

bwahahahahahaha

Just like your posts you think you know something and you know nothing 

[Hulkster]

Just like your posts you think you know something and you know nothing 

wrong.

I think I know something because I have proof. we all can see this proof..

others see it and agree with it.

you pretend it doesn't exist.

this is stupid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wrong.

I think I know something because I have proof. we all can see this proof..

others see it and agree with it.

you pretend it doesn't exist.

this is stupid.

Oh quite the contrary you can't even prove 1999 Mr Olympia was his best showing or he was harder & drier you can't and never could and my proof is firsthand accounts from people who know what they're talking about , you have bizzy & iceman lol and that other idiot Neo

proof I shoved more of that down your throat than you know what to do with , I proven Ronnie was never harder or drier than Dorian , I proven he has better balance , I've proven with the help of your own hero Dorian would beat Ronnie , what have you done? deny , deny , deny 

[Hulkster]

Oh quite the contrary you can't even prove 1999 Mr Olympia was his best showing

yes we can. its quite easy:

99 olympia vs 2001 AC:

ronnie was more full and bigger in 99 with virtually equal hardness:

[England_1]

Hulkster, Coleman was never as hard, dry or conditioned as Yates. Here is Yates IN THE OFFSEASON OF 1995 absolutely destroying 2003 Ronnie which many consider his all-time best 

[Hulkster]

hahaha look at that ND.

you are so owned.

what you fail to realize is HOW CLOSE 99 Ronnie and 2001 AC Ronnie really were in terms of condition - they were very close.

but Ronnie 99 was 10 pounds bigger and more full - hence its quite easy to argue it was his best shape ever.

after all, he did ADVANCE THE SPORT the night he won

[pumpster]

Hulkster, Coleman was never as hard, dry or conditioned as Yates. Here is Yates IN THE OFFSEASON OF 1995 absolutely destroying 2003 Ronnie which many consider his all-time best 

He's not destroying Coleman at all there-let's face it you just have a preference for pasty white-skinned BBs.

[England_1]

He's not destroying Coleman at all there-let's face it you just have a preference for pasty white-skinned BBs.

Yes, he is destroying Coleman there. And two, I'm a big fan of Flex's physique prior to his synthol meltdown. I think he had a very aesthetic physique and could consistently defeat competitors much larger than him. Third, Yates was far more cerebral than Coleman which is yet another reason why I hold him in higher regard. Coleman was more akin to a drug junkie.

[Hulkster]

cerebral?

lol

given that dorian tore major things from day one all throughout his career, I would say being "cerebral" was NOT a good thing in this case.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes we can. its quite easy:

99 olympia vs 2001 AC:

ronnie was more full and bigger in 99 with virtually equal hardness:

Virtually equal hardness? LMFAO again if that were the case how come NO credible sources verify this? I'll tell you why because its not true , Ronnie was his best overall 2001 because he was harder & drier than 1999 and in all actuality 1998/2001 have much more in common he weighed ironically 247 pounds at both contests and had the same super hard and dry conditioning that he lacked in 1999

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahaha look at that ND.

you are so owned.

what you fail to realize is HOW CLOSE 99 Ronnie and 2001 AC Ronnie really were in terms of condition - they were very close.

but Ronnie 99 was 10 pounds bigger and more full - hence its quite easy to argue it was his best shape ever.

after all, he did ADVANCE THE SPORT the night he won

Hulkster you're alone in stating this if it were the case everyone would be hailing 1999 Mr Olympia as his best showing ever , why is it not?  he was 257 pounds and the same conditioning than why is this not listed as his prime showing? 

Flex Magazine August 2003

Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row

if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.

add another reference to 2001 and NOT 1999 lol see a pattern here?

[NarcissisticDeity]

cerebral?

lol

given that dorian tore major things from day one all throughout his career, I would say being "cerebral" was NOT a good thing in this case.

Day one? he competed since 1988 is that day one? his pro career started in 1990 is that day one? keep typing I'll keep correcting 

[NeoSeminole]

Hulkster, Coleman was never as hard, dry or conditioned as Yates. Here is Yates IN THE OFFSEASON OF 1995 absolutely destroying 2003 Ronnie which many consider his all-time best

doesn't matter. Ronnie would dwarf Dorian on stage.

[Hulkster]

lmfao its so easy to own you 

Musclemag International Feb 1995

On the 1994 Mr Olympia

Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because  without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.

I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.

Thats Johnny Fitness kid and while he was stating the obvious ( he was far from his best ) he was still the clear winner 

read the last line of the contest review idiot.
 

[figgs]

1618 pages of "my opinion is clearly the best. See, here's proof."

Can anyone guess my opinion?

[NeoSeminole]

lmfao its so easy to own you

Musclemag International Feb 1995

On the 1994 Mr Olympia

Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because  without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.

I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.

oh yes, you "owned" Hulkster.

unless the bolded part is a typo, the author is saying Dorian didn't deserve the Sandow.