Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[England_1]

He kicked ass in *some* shows, and got hammered in others - either rely on visuals or contest results, since they don't jive except to you.

Further regurgitation of the same pics over and over again. I guess Dorian shrunk to 5'2" for that contest? 

THE PROTOTYPE

[NeoSeminole]

THE PROTOTYPE

the prototype for what? Lee Haney owned that pose before Dorian.

[pumpster]

Further regurgitation of the same pics over and over again. I guess Dorian shrunk to 5'2" for that contest? 

THE PROTOTYPE

Epic attempted deflections lol

The keg was the kind of protype you can have.

[England_1]

Epic attempted deflections lol

The keg was the kind of protype you can have.

Back to posting photoshopped pics again? 

[Hulkster]

you still don't get it, do you? You can't isolate body parts and claim they don't matter on the basis of winning contests. That's like saying "conditioning doesn't matter b/c Andreas Munzer still lost" or "symmetry doesn't matter b/c Bob Paris still lost." You have to look at the total package. Ronnie was much lighter and less-refined when he lost to Dorian.

they never get it.

none of these three morons have any idea how bodybuilding is actually judged

they break all the atttributes and muscles up, and don't look at how everything fits together - which is what the judges actually do.

they are not smart enough to ever understand, I think..

[Matt C]

Is Dorian going to get cancer from abusing bodybuilding drugs?

[pumpster]

Actually this looks like stage one melanoma.

[HTexan]

shitload of ingrown hairs maybe?

[Hulkster]

Ronnie 01 AC vs dorian 95:

dorian has long relied on his thigh rods to hide his inferior quads from the front, but like everything else, Ronnie owns him on this too:

[Hulkster]

dorian narrowly edges out his training partner in the arm department:

hahahahaha

[Hulkster]

holy shit that comparison is scary..

[io856]

Yates > Coleman

Case Closed

whites > blacks

[Danimal77]

Wasn't this LOCKED at the end of November? You psychopaths are still here?

[HTexan]

ronnie FTW!!!

[CigaretteMan]

Yates > Coleman

Case Closed

whites > blacks

  I was at Mr.Olympia 2000 and Ronnie had the size of Dorian with a smaller waist, rounder muscles. But I was also at Mr.Olynpia 1996 and Yates would make Coleman look like a water bag next to him. The judges would have a hard time Dorian vs Ronnie in their primes.

[KingCol]

You all are on the 1630th page!  Holly Shnikies!

[FullROM]

Looks likw ND and crew finally got the message.

Ronnie is the greatest of all time.

[CigaretteMan]

The problem with your assessment is that Ronnie's arms in 04 were not soft. They were just as defined as 98.

  Obviously untrue. Ronnie was 47 lbs heavier in 2004 than 1998. Of course not all of the weight gain was muscle. I'm evident that some of the fat and water he was carrying  at the 2004 Olympia vis-a-vis the 1998 Olympia went to his arms

Bizzy even commented that Ronnie's left bicep appeared to have an extra split.

  And this is material because?

Dorian's arms in the shot you posted have better peak, definition, and proportion between the biceps and triceps.

  Ronnie's arms at the 1998 Olympia had better peak, definition, and proportion between the biceps and triceps than they had at the 2004 Olympia. Going by your logic, then Ronnie's arms were at their best at the 1998 Olympia.

I've asked you to post a better pic of Dorian's arms from the back in 93. Since you have yet to do this, then you must agree that Dorian's arms looked better at a lighter bodyweight.

  You already posted it, and Yates' arms are 50% bigger while being only 10% less defined in it than in the picture Pumpster posted previosly. That qualifies as better in my book.

  My point is that Ronnie's arms had the attributes you value the most in Yates' when he was at his smallest too.

[pumpster]

  You already posted it, and Yates' arms are 50% bigger while being only 10% less defined in it than in the picture Pumpster posted previosly. That qualifies as better in my book.

The fact that there's a significant size difference suggests that either those pics were shopped or that he was on one insane drug cocktail that he was unable to sustain. Either way those are some of the ugliest arms ever.

[NeoSeminole]

Obviously untrue. Ronnie was 47 lbs heavier in 2004 than 1998. Of course not all of the weight gain was muscle. I'm evident that some of the fat and water he was carrying  at the 2004 Olympia vis-a-vis the 1998 Olympia went to his arms

your assessment is easily disproved with pics.

And this is material because?

b/c you said Ronnie's arms in 04 looked soft. They couldn't possibly be soft if they were very defined, even for Ronnie Coleman.

Ronnie's arms at the 1998 Olympia had better peak, definition, and proportion between the biceps and triceps than they had at the 2004 Olympia. Going by your logic, then Ronnie's arms were at their best at the 1998 Olympia.

actually, Ronnie's arms had better proportion in 04. His biceps almost overpowered his triceps in 98. Definition and peak are the same. In fact, I would say that his definition improved. So I don't know what the hell pics you're looking at.

You already posted it, and Yates' arms are 50% bigger while being only 10% less defined in it than in the picture Pumpster posted previosly. That qualifies as better in my book.

ha ha ha, "50% bigger?" This must be a joke. Dorian's arms were 20.5" in 95 (according to Suckmymuscle). Let's say they were 20" in 93, which means they grew between years. His arms would have to be 13" if they grew 50% to become 20". There's no way his arms measured 13" in the pic you posted.

My point is that Ronnie's arms had the attributes you value the most in Yates' when he was at his smallest too.

Ronnie's arms retained all their strengths while becoming larger. Dorian's didn't. This is the difference.

[NeoSeminole]

I have to get ready to go out, and I probably won't be online until tomorrow. So I leave you with quotes proclaiming Ronnie as the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been.”

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie Coleman 2001 Arnold Backstage Posing

[busyB]

Look, I am a disciple of Dorian and Mentzer HIT training with my own variations added thru the years and still train with lots of their principles to this day. I learned about HIT from Dorian's book and Mentzer himself, so I admire and respect Dorian's physique more than most and admire all his accomplishments.

When I saw Dorian guest pose at the San Fran show after his first O win, I thought I would never see a bodybuilder with the development like his, EVER!

After watching that Ronnie video above and watching the '01 O Prejudging live (which Jay never should of won like everyone said, it was not close) I would have to say that Ronnie is clear cut the greatest O ever.

It is all a matter of preference as to which physique you think is superior or who is greater, but head to head, Ronnie would win even when Dorian was 100%.

Ronnie was 47 lbs heavier in 2004 than 1998. Of course not all of the weight gain was muscle. I'm evident that some of the fat and water he was carrying  at the 2004 Olympia vis-a-vis the 1998 Olympia went to his arms

LOL! I am sorry, but just have to say, this cracked me up.

Ummm, muscles are 70% water that is true, but fat can not "transfered" from one muscle to another. 

[Danimal77]

I have to get ready to go out, and I probably won't be online until tomorrow. So I leave you with quotes proclaiming Ronnie as the greatest bodybuilder of all-time.

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

Shawn Perine - Flex, July 2007 p. 207

"After all, he's still, even at 43 yrs old, eight-time Mr. O Ronnie freakin' Coleman. Which is to say, arguably the best bodybuilder who has ever lived."

Greg Merritt - Flex, July 2007 p. 212

"Coleman is only two years older than the new Mr. O (hypothetical article saying if Toney Freeman won), but time stops for no man, including the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Steve Blechman - MD, Febrary 2004

"Ronnie perseveres and proves continually that, at his best, he is unbeatable."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

“I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived.”

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Branch Warren – Flex, October 2006

“I have a lot of respect for Ronnie. He’s probably the greatest bodybuilder there’s ever been.”

Dorian Yates – PBW Radio Interview

"The judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

You stupid fuck. By any paperback novel off the rack and you'll see all kinds of people praising the book on the first few pages. Does that PROVE the book is worth is worth all the praise? Who the FUCK would post the critism? Surely not you, you dumb fuck. GET A LIFE you psycho.

[RocketSwitch625]

Ronnie Coleman 2001 Arnold Backstage Posing

I like the way the camera man moves the camera down on the calves for about 2 seconds before moving the cam back up again quickly. Notice how he refuses to point the camera below the knees after that? LOL, I just love it.