Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[kyomu]

The greatest of all times

[pumpster]

Is cigarette still claiming to not be sucky? LOL

The 3-person "team-yates" tries hard to sound like a full house. Don't forget england aka pubes.

[England_1]

The 3-person "team-yates" tries hard to sound like a full house. Don't forget england aka pubes.

Brutal owning you took in the 97 thread? eh 

[CigaretteMan]

  Oh well, since you guys are so convinced that I am him, I won't post in this thread anymore and I will try to get Ron to PM you stating that this is my only account here. And by the way, "England", I am still waiting for the post where Suckmymuscle claims he was at the 1996 Olympia.

[England_1]

  Oh well, since you guys are so convinced that I am him, I won't post in this thread anymore and I will try to get Ron to PM you stating that this is my only account here. And by the way, "England", I am still waiting for the post where Suckmymuscle claims he was at the 1996 Olympia.

"  Who cares what they think? My opinion is more important, because I know more. I am an expert. A genius, if you will. Besides the intellect, I also have the knowledge, considering that I've been to some 200 different bodybuilding contests, including a Mr.Olympia - the 1996 one, in Chicago, where I saw Dorian destroy the competition with straight-firsts scores -, and I have spoken to dozens of bodybuilding judges to propoerly understand how contests are judged. When I read through your comments, it's blatantly obvious how stupid you are. You even think that Ronnie's huge glutes added to his muscularity in 2003 when in reality it only ruined his symmetry. This thread is quite blasé to me, and I continue to post here only because it's fun owning you. Look at your histerics. Every time I post, you reply shortly. It's obvious that you give a great deal of importance to my posts. When I checked the time you posted, it's usually withing 20 to 30 minutes of my posts. I sometimes forget about this thread and stop posting for up to a week, because at the end, Dorian will remain better in my eyes and so will Ronnie in the eyes of the spooge-licers, so it's a zero-sum game anyway. Oh well, I'll keep making you my internet bitch for as long as you have the lack of shame to keep posting here.  Wink

SUCKMYMUSCLE"

[candidizzle]

I'll be the bigger man and say enough is enough , the board is sick of our ' debates ' obviously neither of us are going to convince each other of our opinions , and we've basically said everything we could , so I say lets end this debate out of respect for others , I say you and I stop directly comparing Ronnie & Dorian and leave well enough alone and let the board have a rest lol the ball is now in your court . 

and my answer is....



ND you are a moron

You want a truce? NO WAY - it would be one thing if we debating DEBATABLE topics.

But we are not.

Sorry, but saying that Dorian has better overall arms than ronnie is NOT a debatable topic. It is RETARDED.

Same with all of your other retarded arguments that serve no purpose other than to show your BLIND HATRED of ronnie.

Like:

-ronnie has small traps
-Arnold has better quads than Ronnie
-Yates has a better back double bi
-Yates has great legs
-Ronnie has small forearms
-etc etc.

The only way I would accept a truce is if you finally admitted what we all know:

you hate Ronnie and therefore will say anything, no matter how retarded (eg. Yates arms are better) just to discredit him.

Some of the stuff you say is so retarded its like saying 2+2=5.

(eg. Ronnie has worse arms than Yates).

I will never stop trying to help people realize the TRUTH, unless you admit that you want no part of it.

but I will not sit by and let someone prance around the boards spewing crap like this.

There are certain things in bodybuilding that are NOT subjective.

Dorian versus Ronnie is one of them.

Ronnie, by all accounts except yours, is much better at his best.

Give credit where credit is due or admit hate and bias.

these are your only options.


 

..almost 2 thousand pages later the debate thrives on..

[Hulkster]

not really.

the cowardly and delusional ND lost so bad he won't go near this thread with a 10 foot pole.

he is reduced to spouting refuted bullshit about how the 99 Ronnie shots from the olympia are all 'photoshopped' (sic) and doing everything he can to avoid reality.

sad sad sad

we all know he still views this thread every day, but lacks the balls to step up the plate as always.

I feel bad for him I really do.

must be tough to live life being such a cowardly pussy...

[CigaretteMan]

"  Who cares what they think? My opinion is more important, because I know more. I am an expert. A genius, if you will. Besides the intellect, I also have the knowledge, considering that I've been to some 200 different bodybuilding contests, including a Mr.Olympia - the 1996 one, in Chicago, where I saw Dorian destroy the competition with straight-firsts scores -, and I have spoken to dozens of bodybuilding judges to propoerly understand how contests are judged. When I read through your comments, it's blatantly obvious how stupid you are. You even think that Ronnie's huge glutes added to his muscularity in 2003 when in reality it only ruined his symmetry. This thread is quite blasé to me, and I continue to post here only because it's fun owning you. Look at your histerics. Every time I post, you reply shortly. It's obvious that you give a great deal of importance to my posts. When I checked the time you posted, it's usually withing 20 to 30 minutes of my posts. I sometimes forget about this thread and stop posting for up to a week, because at the end, Dorian will remain better in my eyes and so will Ronnie in the eyes of the spooge-licers, so it's a zero-sum game anyway. Oh well, I'll keep making you my internet bitch for as long as you have the lack of shame to keep posting here.  Wink

SUCKMYMUSCLE"

  Where is the date and thread of the post?

[CigaretteMan]

now that you mention it, I agree with you. They both argue contrary to what's reality and vehemently defend their losing argument rather than admit they are wrong. It's also suspicious that CigaretteMan started posting in this thread around the same time Suckmyasshole 'mysteriously' vanished.

  It's nice to see you subscribe to the other guy's theory regarding my identity, despite the only evidence for it being the subjective impression that mine and Suckmymuscle's posts are similar. Funny also that tons of people have registered here in the same time Suckmymuscle stopped posted, and yet none of them get accused of being him. I rated you above "England", but now I can see that my assessment of you was wrong.

  Anyway, you claim to have "proved me wrong" by posting a few pictures of Ronnie's and Dorian's triceps that show the opposite of what you claim. Having striations right above the tendom is not a proof that someone's triceps are low, dude. It is common knowledge that Ronnie's lateral head is thin and short, a fact acknowledged by several magazines. Here is a quote from MuscleMag about Ronnie's triceps:

  "Cons: Weak triceps, thick waist, small calves, and noticeable lack of back symetry. Thighs appear to be down in size and lacking outside sweep" - MuscleMag, Mr.Olympia review, January 2008 issue, pg 221

[CigaretteMan]

His physique in 03 would annihilate Dorian.

  Wrong. Dorian had more muscle pound-per-pound than Coleman at the 2003 Olympia, so there is no reason to assume Ronnie would be more muscular.

[RocketSwitch625]

Why didn't his wife/girlfriend just tell him "You look like a TWAT"? LOL

[tu_holmes]

  Wrong. Dorian had more muscle pound-per-pound than Coleman at the 2003 Olympia, so there is no reason to assume Ronnie would be more muscular.

How do you get this?

Let's say that both men are between 3 and 4 percent bodyfat during any competition.

Dorian at 5'10" weighing 260 pounds and Ronnie Coleman weighting 296 pounds at 5'11"

If I give Dorian a 1 percent bodyfat advantage this is what I get:

The LBM for Dorian is 3.60285 pounds per inch of height at 3% bf, while Ronnie's is 4.01408 at 4% bf.

So, I was just wondering how Dorian you see that.

Also, since when is a pound of muscle on person "more" than a pound of muscle on another? I thought a pound always weighed a pound given equal factors such as gravity and distance from the center of the earth.

[CigaretteMan]

How do you get this?

Let's say that both men are between 3 and 4 percent bodyfat during any competition.

Dorian at 5'10" weighing 260 pounds and Ronnie Coleman weighting 296 pounds at 5'11"

If I give Dorian a 1 percent bodyfat advantage this is what I get:

The LBM for Dorian is 3.60285 pounds per inch of height at 3% bf, while Ronnie's is 4.01408 at 4% bf.

So, I was just wondering how Dorian you see that.

Also, since when is a pound of muscle on person "more" than a pound of muscle on another? I thought a pound always weighed a pound given equal factors such as gravity and distance from the center of the earth.

  You are not factoring in intramuscular and sub epidermial water content into the equation.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

  You are not factoring in intramuscular and sub epidermial water content into the equation.

dont forget the bones, nails, and hair....

[pumpster]

dont forget the bones, nails, and hair....

lol ya let's count that too as a way of saying the argument's ridiculous.

[Emmortal]

Here stands the greatest bodybuilder ever.

[m8]

Here stands the greatest bodybuilder ever.

His left lat looks pretty stupid.

[Emmortal]

Weird angle, but still....from the '05 O.  Not his best conditioning but mass wise unbeatable.

[CigaretteMan]

lol ya let's count that too as a way of saying the argument's ridiculous.

  Why ridiculous? The Human body is 70% water, so it is perfectly reasonable to assume that a large part of the advantage in weight Ronnie had over Yates in his 2003 form is due to higher intramuscular and sub dermal water content. It can't be all muscle otherwise Ronnie would be as hard as Dorian, which he wasn't.

[RocketSwitch625]

His left lat looks pretty stupid.

The claves look stupid too. That's why they are always hidden in the front shots. LOL

[RocketSwitch625]

The greatest of all times

It appears that Dorian01 posted a photoshop job a couple of pages back. Please be more careful in future.

[tu_holmes]

  You are not factoring in intramuscular and sub epidermial water content into the equation.

Actually LBM (Lean Body Mass) does factor in water... That's a part of any one persons LBM.

It doesn't change my math.

[Hulkster]

It appears that Dorian01 posted a photoshop job a couple of pages back. Please be more careful in future.

dorian needs all the help he can get...

[RocketSwitch625]

dorian needs all the help he can get...

Actually he looks better in the real pic because his proportions are better there.

[RocketSwitch625]

A classic shot of Ronnie Coleman at the 2001 ASC. The best physique ever seen on a bodybuilding stage. LOL