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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42875 on: March 22, 2010, 11:41:35 AM »
exactly. but you know the dumb nuthuggers will come up with an excuse anyway or claim its a 'selective pic'..

yeah, its selective alright - showing ronnie and dorian at their bests in an excellent comparison.

just because dorian couldn't measure up is beside the point..
Youre high. I still see Dorian winning that shot.
Just becaues Ronnie has more striations does not mean he wins. Quads overpower his legs, fucked up abdominal structure, etc. Dorian is simply more balanced and complete than Ronnie.
Ronnie has more  "freak" appeal. And Half the time I think thats what you go by.
You used to try and use "X-frame" as a judging criteria, thats how retarded you were.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42876 on: March 22, 2010, 11:56:52 AM »
X frame (wide lats, tiny waist, great quad sweep - what the judges look for in a classic physique) is still very much a factor, and its part of why dorian's front relaxed shot sucked so bad:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42877 on: March 22, 2010, 11:57:25 AM »
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ouch.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42878 on: March 22, 2010, 12:51:30 PM »
not tripping. just aware of reality:

its the same old story: dorian had great thick lats, but everything else in the pose was terrible.

I mean, just compare those quads..those arms.. :'(

its not even close.


although ronnie looks amazing here I think it's highlighted by the amazing lighting that year.
if you look every body looks better than the 1995 comparsion, did the competitors get that much better?? no probably not, just the lighting, showing more detail.

 Ronnie looks really amazing here, but this is the only good Ronnie fls Ive ever seen, if you can show us another good Ronnie fls without the amazing lighting, we can make better comparisons.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42879 on: March 22, 2010, 02:44:58 PM »
yeah this front relaxed sucks ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42880 on: March 22, 2010, 02:46:18 PM »
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ouch.
Youre a retard. You post pics from the prejudging of Ronnie, where theyre tensed up and hitting the pose,
and then a pic from the Top 5 where they hand the trophy. Not even posing.
Lol.  ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42881 on: March 22, 2010, 02:55:02 PM »
Youre a retard. You post pics from the prejudging of Ronnie, where theyre tensed up and hitting the pose,
and then a pic from the Top 5 where they hand the trophy. Not even posing.
Lol.  ::)
this is how he operates.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42882 on: March 22, 2010, 03:02:23 PM »
Youre a retard. You post pics from the prejudging of Ronnie, where theyre tensed up and hitting the pose,
and then a pic from the Top 5 where they hand the trophy. Not even posing.
Lol.  ::)

the excuses never end, do they?? ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42883 on: March 22, 2010, 03:03:13 PM »
yeah this front relaxed sucks ::)

it sure does. the arms are 5 sizes too small for the torso.

thanks for posting!
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42884 on: March 22, 2010, 03:05:37 PM »
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Ronnie looks really amazing here, but this is the only good Ronnie fls Ive ever seen


not surprising considering that even at his 2001 AC "best" he had 5x the gut that he had at the 99 show.

ronnie had a narrow time frame when he was amazing with not much of a gut (at least in poses).

by the time the AC rolled around, even in the front lat spread he couldn't hide it:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42885 on: March 22, 2010, 03:07:17 PM »
another reason why he looks so good in that 99 shot is that he is actually hitting the pose properly - something he never seems to be able to do.

even in the AC shot I posted look: his arms are way too far foward.

ronnie has always been a terrible poser. world's best physique ever, but couldn't pose worth shit.

except the most muscular pose.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42886 on: March 22, 2010, 03:31:39 PM »
Excuses?
Clearly you posted a pic from the trophy handout, versus the prejudging where they are actually being scored.
If you want to post standing around relaxed pics, there is a billion worse pics of Ronnie stading around the stage with his gut hanging out.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42887 on: March 22, 2010, 03:40:33 PM »
does Ronnie have more defined arms? Yes bicep peak, yes (genetic); triceps, no way.

this discussion is about conditioning? Why are you talking about bicep shape? lol. Ronnie has better definition in his biceps brachii, brachialis, triceps, and forearms. Don't bother trying to counter with words. If you have pics, post 'em otherwise the visual evidence > your opinion.










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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42888 on: March 22, 2010, 03:49:38 PM »
ronnie's biceps themselves are about as well defined as anyone's in history:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42889 on: March 22, 2010, 03:50:47 PM »
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this discussion is about conditioning? Why are you talking about bicep shape? lol

because they can't win the argument using the visuals. they are losing, so they have to use another angle that has nothing to do with the topic in an effort to seem like they are posting something meaningful..

its not working.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42890 on: March 22, 2010, 03:52:57 PM »
does Ronnie have more defined delts? Yes no—arguably equal.

there is nothing debatable here. Show me 1 pic of Dorian that can match this level of detail in the delts.



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does Ronnie have more defined pecs? Yes no—very close.  Both very striated.

not even close. Ronnie's pecs have deeper striations from top to bottom that encompass the entire width of his chest. The difference in level of definition is most evident in the front lat spread.






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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42891 on: March 22, 2010, 03:58:52 PM »
does Ronnie have more defined glutes? Yes bigger, not more defined.

no contest. Ronnie has one of the most, if not THE most, striated glutes of all time and you're telling me Dorian is tied? lol










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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42892 on: March 22, 2010, 04:01:01 PM »
got delts?

dorian doesn't.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42893 on: March 22, 2010, 04:02:32 PM »
no contest. Ronnie has one of the most, if not THE most, striated glutes of all time and you're telling me Dorian is tied? lol









see, they know they are losing this badly, (as they have been since page 1) and now they are just spouting nonsense..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42894 on: March 22, 2010, 04:06:41 PM »
does Ronnie have more defined quads? Yes –hard to compare given the difference in shape.  Arguable.

shape has nothing to do with definition. Either you have separations and striations or you don't. Ronnie has better definition throughout his quads.












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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42895 on: March 22, 2010, 04:14:43 PM »
does Ronnie have more defined hamstrings? Yes no. Dorian had ridiculous hams as did Ronnie.

wrong again. Let's see Dorian's hamstrings showing this much definition from the side  ;)




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42896 on: March 22, 2010, 04:19:35 PM »
when you can disprove that 01 ASC Ronnie had better conditioning, then we can talk.

until then, scientific facts + visual evidence > hearsay or broscience

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42897 on: March 22, 2010, 04:31:10 PM »
shape has nothing to do with definition. Either you have separations and striations or you don't. Ronnie has better definition throughout his quads.














I think it's just that ronnie has some bodyparts dry and cut to the bone, and making the ones that aren't seem soft.

so I think the freaky parts are so cut it makes the lagging parts look like fluff, and there fore making it look like Ronnie is not as conditioned.

where Dorian seemed to have have the same bone dry conditioning from head to toe, creating a more conditioned harder look.

damm sic pic his bis here are insane, looks like a tumor on his arm.lol :o
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42898 on: March 22, 2010, 04:37:22 PM »
Probably the best arm shot of Ronnie ever 8)


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a truce ( Ronnie says Dorians is better )
« Reply #42899 on: March 22, 2010, 04:42:19 PM »
Probably the best arm shot of Ronnie ever 8)



your right very few pics of inner arm could go side to side against that. :o :o :o


it's weird that something so small like gyno can almost ruin the pic for me.lol
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