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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #225 on: October 17, 2024, 07:54:21 PM »
What does Hankins fear more, actually fighting someone or attempting to conventional deadlift 500 from the ground with no straps?  He's been saying he could conventional dead 500 "with ease" for years now without ever actually going for it, even after Matt challenged him and crushed him.

I also hate that I have to qualify it as "conventional deadlift from the floor with no straps" over and over otherwise SemHanktics will be in full effect and he'll pull 500 on a trap bar with the high handles with the plates resting on 12 inches of boards or some other bullshit.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #226 on: October 17, 2024, 10:28:42 PM »
I have had time analyzing the running technique displayed here.

Did Tim Walz create a "how to run" video series?

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #227 on: October 17, 2024, 11:10:11 PM »
Out of curiosity I went back and looked.
Just before my foot surgery I ran the 60-meter indoors in 7.41

Rankings list end with 7.40 at around 2000th place all time.

Can I ask what your all time record was?

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #228 on: October 18, 2024, 02:06:06 AM »
An additional four reps of this, eight inches lower?  Zero chance.



You're getting too foxed by the intensity of his straining/breathing.  I'm going by his movement.  He isn't tapped out in drive in that.  I still say it's possible.  Of course, I'd not bet or anything but I'm not going to say there is zero chance when there looks to me to be a decent chance.  I haven't actually seen anything like a failure in either of those sets.



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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #229 on: October 18, 2024, 02:28:13 AM »
You're getting too foxed by the intensity of his straining/breathing.  I'm going by his movement.  He isn't tapped out in drive in that.  I still say it's possible.  Of course, I'd not bet or anything but I'm not going to say there is zero chance when there looks to me to be a decent chance.  I haven't actually seen anything like a failure in either of those sets.



He doesn`t train hard enough to eke out the tougher reps.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #230 on: October 18, 2024, 03:44:41 AM »
You're getting too foxed by the intensity of his straining/breathing.  I'm going by his movement.  He isn't tapped out in drive in that.  I still say it's possible.  Of course, I'd not bet or anything but I'm not going to say there is zero chance when there looks to me to be a decent chance.  I haven't actually seen anything like a failure in either of those sets.

Exactly it is absolutely possible I have seen guys a lot weaker than me pull 500. Did I get winded sure but that is not the same as muscular failure. I also was not cycling when I did that my cardio is better now.

But regardless I have never attempted a max deadlift in my life.  I don't actually know where failure will be however based on what I have pulled and how it felt and what I have seen others pull I don't think 500 is out of the question. But I also don't think tweaking my shoulder is out of the question trying it so why bother?

Spend an hour dragging plates out of the garage and loading the bar for what so Wes can tell me I was shaking or using bad form hitching and therefore it doesn't count anyway?

Then of course you guys will say 500 is nothing for someone weighing 225lbs on TRT and just invalidate the lift anyway

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #231 on: October 18, 2024, 04:09:04 AM »
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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #232 on: October 18, 2024, 04:15:34 AM »
You're getting too foxed by the intensity of his straining/breathing.  I'm going by his movement.  He isn't tapped out in drive in that.  I still say it's possible.  Of course, I'd not bet or anything but I'm not going to say there is zero chance when there looks to me to be a decent chance.  I haven't actually seen anything like a failure in either of those sets.

The high handles lift it ~eight inches off the ground, it's like doing a rack-pull which can add upwards of 100 lbs.  He is nowhere close to doing ~330x12 on a conventional deadlift.

Or 500x1 for that matter.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #233 on: October 18, 2024, 04:20:53 AM »
This whole "Deadlift Challenge" has me thinking Bhank's going to be shopping for a torn pec/torn bicep 2 for 1 repair special soon.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #234 on: October 18, 2024, 04:27:50 AM »
The high handles lift it ~eight inches off the ground, it's like doing a rack-pull which can add upwards of 100 lbs.  He is nowhere close to doing ~330x12 on a conventional deadlift.

Or 500x1 for that matter.

Ok since it adds 100lbs and you claim you can deadlift 325 lets see you deadlift 425lbs then with the high handles should be easy for you yes?

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #235 on: October 18, 2024, 04:35:45 AM »
A 500 pound deadlift is nothing for a guy claiming to weigh around 225 who has done a boatload of gear for over 20 years!   ;D

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #236 on: October 18, 2024, 04:40:36 AM »
A 500 pound deadlift is nothing for a guy claiming to weigh around 225 who has done a boatload of gear for over 20 years!   ;D

funny shit to listen to this weak fuck talk strength when he puts up natural high school football players numbers hahaha... no clue lol

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #237 on: October 18, 2024, 04:44:05 AM »
funny shit to listen to this weak fuck talk strength when he puts up natural high school football players numbers hahaha... no clue lol
No shit huh?  ;D

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #238 on: October 18, 2024, 04:44:37 AM »
You can tell how weak he is because he thinks a 325 pull is something worth boasting/fantasizing about.

I will record my conventional 1RM deadlift attempt this weekend and share it with select members such as wes and SF1900, bhanks won't get to see until he posts his video attempting the same weight for 12 reps.  Straight bar, conventional deadlift, no hex-bar / high-handles bullshit.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #239 on: October 18, 2024, 04:47:52 AM »

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #240 on: October 18, 2024, 04:52:13 AM »
Exactly it is absolutely possible I have seen guys a lot weaker than me pull 500. Did I get winded sure but that is not the same as muscular failure. I also was not cycling when I did that my cardio is better now.

But regardless I have never attempted a max deadlift in my life.  I don't actually know where failure will be however based on what I have pulled and how it felt and what I have seen others pull I don't think 500 is out of the question. But I also don't think tweaking my shoulder is out of the question trying it so why bother?

330x12 I see you possibly pulling. 500 probably requires you to pull something like 15-16/330 and then also be conditioned for that type of lift which is going to challenge you to lean into.  I think given you're not competing and you're worried about injury you'd be wise to just go overhand grip and use straps.  I don't dig the mixed grip, I think the injury potential is much worse.

The high handles lift it ~eight inches off the ground, it's like doing a rack-pull which can add upwards of 100 lbs.  He is nowhere close to doing ~330x12 on a conventional deadlift.

Or 500x1 for that matter.

Aye but I'm not basing my belief he can do it on the trap bar deadlift, I'm ruling out the trap bar deadlift as proving he can't do it.  For one thing, trap bar is not a rack pull deadlift, it's more like rack pull dead squat which is quite different.  Secondly, the trap bar deadlift didn't prove he was running out of gas which is what I'm looking for when I'm judging if I think someone can do it.

He might indeed not make the 12/330.  I can't be sure.  I don't know if he has the trust in his body enough to go to that point anyway.  What I do know is that I frequently pull higher rep deadlifts and I see nothing that suggests he was sunk at 280 with how he was lifting.  He made noise, sure but as i say, he wasn't wilting much on either lift at the end there. 

I do not know why the hell we're talking about 500. 

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #241 on: October 18, 2024, 05:00:20 AM »
You also have to take into account that getting a certain number of reps with a particular poundage doesn`t always translate to a projected one rep max effort.

I have seen tons of guys do plenty of high reps, but were not proficient at doing low or one rep maximum lifts.

It`s a whole different animal,especially if one is not used to doing triples,doubles,or max attempts.

5 X 5 with a constant poundage is a good way to go IMO.........when you complete all sets of the 5 X 5,add 15 or so pounds to the bar when talking about deadlifts, and do that weight until you complete 5 X 5..........rinse,wash,and repeat.

Starting out a bit lighter will ensure good form and you won`t hit your peak lift and plateau too early.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #242 on: October 18, 2024, 05:09:15 AM »
330x12 I see you possibly pulling. 500 probably requires you to pull something like 15-16/330 and then also be conditioned for that type of lift which is going to challenge you to lean into.  I think given you're not competing and you're worried about injury you'd be wise to just go overhand grip and use straps.  I don't dig the mixed grip, I think the injury potential is much worse.

Aye but I'm not basing my belief he can do it on the trap bar deadlift, I'm ruling out the trap bar deadlift as proving he can't do it.  For one thing, trap bar is not a rack pull deadlift, it's more like rack pull dead squat which is quite different.  Secondly, the trap bar deadlift didn't prove he was running out of gas which is what I'm looking for when I'm judging if I think someone can do it.

He might indeed not make the 12/330.  I can't be sure.  I don't know if he has the trust in his body enough to go to that point anyway.  What I do know is that I frequently pull higher rep deadlifts and I see nothing that suggests he was sunk at 280 with how he was lifting.  He made noise, sure but as i say, he wasn't wilting much on either lift at the end there. 

I do not know why the hell we're talking about 500.

You don't know much about deadlifting if you think 330x8 on a high-handles hex bar means 330x12 on a conventional pull is realistic.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #243 on: October 18, 2024, 05:20:29 AM »
You don't know much about deadlifting if you think 330x8 on a high-handles hex bar means 330x12 on a conventional pull is realistic.

Well it's a good job I don't think that then isn't it?

330x8 was not his best effort.  He had some level of energy in the tank.  Ergo, I cannot judge if 330x12 conventional at best effort is possible.  I can only see that 330x8 video does not disprove 330x12 being possible. 

He quite obviously could have carried on going with the trap bar deadlifts.  Where, I don't know, but I do not know how you could be so confident based on that video.  He has juice in the tank.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #244 on: October 18, 2024, 05:23:45 AM »
You also have to take into account that getting a certain number of reps with a particular poundage doesn`t always translate to a projected one rep max effort.

I have seen tons of guys do plenty of high reps, but were not proficient at doing low or one rep maximum lifts.

It`s a whole different animal,especially if one is not used to doing triples,doubles,or max attempts.

5 X 5 with a constant poundage is a good way to go IMO.........when you complete all sets of the 5 X 5,add 15 or so pounds to the bar when talking about deadlifts, and do that weight until you complete 5 X 5..........rinse,wash,and repeat.

Starting out a bit lighter will ensure good form and you won`t hit your peak lift and plateau too early.

my son gained almost 30lbs natural using the 5x5 system and burger king lol... bench went from 185 to 315 in a year.. 5' 10, 220lb when football started.  love that system myself

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #245 on: October 18, 2024, 07:10:42 AM »
You can tell how weak he is because he thinks a 325 pull is something worth boasting/fantasizing about.

I will record my conventional 1RM deadlift attempt this weekend and share it with select members such as wes and SF1900, bhanks won't get to see until he posts his video attempting the same weight for 12 reps.  Straight bar, conventional deadlift, no hex-bar / high-handles bullshit.

Select members code word bullshit no one gets to vouch for shit. You said you can pull 325 and the hex bar adds 100lbs so I want to see you pull 425 on the hex bar.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #246 on: October 18, 2024, 07:11:47 AM »
I left the army early because they wanted me to fight in a war zone, I faked injury to get a discharge

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #247 on: October 18, 2024, 07:18:58 AM »
All the Hanky running memes are awesome. He’s the gift that keeps on giving. A thoroughbred of lies and stupidity running around that back yard like he’s being chased by Josh and a pack of cartoon dogs.

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #248 on: October 18, 2024, 07:21:08 AM »


Why did I volunteer for the Infantry during a time of war then? It's not like I was drafted or needed the money as they shipped my fucking Porsche to Germany. So please explain why I decided to join the Infantry in October of 2001. Why was at at Meps? What did I sign up to do if it was not to go to war? Why would someone afraid of going to war volunteer for the Infantry in a time of War????

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Re: Playing Soccer aka RUNNING
« Reply #249 on: October 18, 2024, 07:23:49 AM »
Based on that vid, he might be able to do it.  Ignoring the huff and puffing, the speed doesn't look too compromised at the end.

That video was 8 months ago, he’s practically quit lifting now.

He left the military under a cloud after 20 months but won’t say why. Everything now is distraction from that.

Why’d you leave pussy?