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Money Launder $1M. GO!
« on: October 22, 2024, 09:42:26 AM »
You find a suitcase of $1M and your Finders Keepers game is strong!

Now what?  Asking after watching a Netflix show where the dudes millions sitting around.  In today's age, it has to be pretty impossible to do so.

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Re: Money Launder $1M. GO!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2024, 09:49:35 AM »
Public works infrastructure projects. You could launder a hundred million if you wanted and never get caught

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2024, 09:59:57 AM »
Open a gym and create 100 fictional members at £50 a month thats 5k a month in the bank
Open a car wash washing 300 cars a week even though we only wash 20
Open a barbers doing 30 haircuts a week and say we did 300

Laundering money is piss easy these days

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2024, 12:08:27 PM »
Open a gym and create 100 fictional members at £50 a month thats 5k a month in the bank
Open a car wash washing 300 cars a week even though we only wash 20
Open a barbers doing 30 haircuts a week and say we did 300

Laundering money is piss easy these days
The car wash front was used in Breaking Bad.

I am sure the IRS flags these types of businesses and may audit. You better be able to cut hair. They could also ask around to determine how busy the barber shop was.

How were you able to open the car wash? Where did the money come from to buy or build the car wash? In Breaking Bad I seem to recall that they tried to buy it for a reasonable amount that they could claim was covered by savings. And they must have had proof of the savings.

If you have no savings and find $1 million in a suitcase, how can you provide proof that you used savings to acquire anything?

Another option is to buy a distressed property, and find contractors that are willing to work for cash and not report. Then you have them fix up the place. Learn some skills along the way. Then claim you did most of the work yourself. Of course, the IRS agents could ask the neighbors if any contractors came and went. Ideally the property would be out in the country where there are not a lot of witnesses.

You can pay for groceries and supplements in cash.
Pay restaurants with cash.

It's not that easy to launder money. An IRS audit could find holes easily.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2024, 12:10:55 PM »
Public works infrastructure projects. You could launder a hundred million if you wanted and never get caught
Can you give an example of how that would work? Skeptical...

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2024, 12:17:26 PM »
The car wash front was used in Breaking Bad.

I am sure the IRS flags these types of businesses and may audit. You better be able to cut hair. They could also ask around to determine how busy the barber shop was.

How were you able to open the car wash? Where did the money come from to buy or build the car wash? In Breaking Bad I seem to recall that they tried to buy it for a reasonable amount that they could claim was covered by savings. And they must have had proof of the savings.

If you have no savings and find $1 million in a suitcase, how can you provide proof that you used savings to acquire anything?

Another option is to buy a distressed property, and find contractors that are willing to work for cash and not report. Then you have them fix up the place. Learn some skills along the way. Then claim you did most of the work yourself. Of course, the IRS agents could ask the neighbors if any contractors came and went. Ideally the property would be out in the country where there are not a lot of witnesses.

You can pay for groceries and supplements in cash.
Pay restaurants with cash.

It's not that easy to launder money. An IRS audit could find holes easily.

most UK town centres are now almost all Turkish Barbers, Sunbed shops, Vape Stores and Charity shops

Charity shops are a good option
Just keep putting money through the till saying you sold donated stock
There is no record of anything anyone donates at a charity shop

As for the IRS checking, fucks sake the police cant stop shoplifters there days, the IRS dont have the manpower to be checking all these barbers and car washes
The car washes are almost always migrants working there, no doubt illegally.

Think about some strores that are in shopping centres
The rents in those places are astronomical , you really think places like "Accesorise" are selling enough £1 a pair earrings to cover the rents every month

The Chinese medicine shops that popped up a few years ago were all money laundering, I came across that in my work.

as for any inital outlay you could get a business loan

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2024, 12:30:03 PM »
Small delis, pizza shops, barber shops, self serve laundry mats, and the $1 stores were/are the big ones in my area. I imagine weed and head shops are good for this too.

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2024, 12:49:18 PM »
You find a suitcase of $1M and your Finders Keepers game is strong!

Now what?  Asking after watching a Netflix show where the dudes millions sitting around.  In today's age, it has to be pretty impossible to do so.
  I don't know but I would go to expert and convicted felon. Donald J. TRUMP, I'm sure he has vast experience in that field of endeavor.  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2024, 12:52:59 PM »
  I don't know but I would go to expert and convicted felon. Donald J. TRUMP, I'm sure he has vast experience in that field of endeavor.  ;D

Both the Bragg and James' cases will be overturned.  The appeal went horribly for the prosecution already in the James' case.

It's lawfare, don't fall for it.

Back on topic:

Casino?  10g at a time?
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2024, 12:53:20 PM »
Can you claim to have made it from bitcoin and just pay capital gains?

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2024, 12:54:30 PM »
Can you claim to have made it from bitcoin and just pay capital gains?

They’re going to need more proof than just your word, big guy!

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2024, 12:56:04 PM »
Just spend the cash on daily expenses like food, take a few vacations etc. Why would you need to launder it instead of just using as extra spending cash?

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2024, 12:56:27 PM »
They’re going to need more proof than just your word, big guy!

 ;D

I'm not a bitcoin expert. What does someone do if they've traded bitcoins anonymously and now they want to recoup their money? Is it really untraceable?

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2024, 12:58:27 PM »
;D

I'm not a bitcoin expert. What does someone do if they've traded bitcoins anonymously and now they want to recoup their money? Is it really untraceable?

I’ve got mine with Fidelity and Coinbase, and I believe they report everything to the IRS, so I give my CPA my statements

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2024, 01:03:14 PM »
Just spend the cash on daily expenses like food, take a few vacations etc. Why would you need to launder it instead of just using as extra spending cash?
a million quids worth of food and vacations?

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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2024, 01:09:01 PM »
Lower the 1M as much as you can up front.

*Buy a near new car used and have them lower the value on the sale. Maybe it’s a 60k car for 10k sale invoice, easy peasy.
*Buy all new clothing.
*Buy new furniture, towels, plates etc
*Renovate house assuming you either want to live in it and/or can profit from it

Probably only 500k left now

Sell property for more since you renovated and buy a dump in a much better location. Dump 400k or so into that and live. Now you have 100k left spend over the next 5yrs or so on daily living things.

No magical laundering required and you can’t be found by audits.

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2024, 01:54:16 PM »
Lower the 1M as much as you can up front.

*Buy a near new car used and have them lower the value on the sale. Maybe it’s a 60k car for 10k sale invoice, easy peasy.
*Buy all new clothing.
*Buy new furniture, towels, plates etc
*Renovate house assuming you either want to live in it and/or can profit from it

Probably only 500k left now

Sell property for more since you renovated and buy a dump in a much better location. Dump 400k or so into that and live. Now you have 100k left spend over the next 5yrs or so on daily living things.

No magical laundering required and you can’t be found by audits.

This.

Just keep your day job. The worst thing you cold do is go out and buy flashy things. You can make $200k a year go by pretty easily on "experiences"

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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2024, 02:37:36 PM »
form a C-Corp in Nevada
buy an 'aged' Wyoming Corp with that NV Corp
Wyoming Corp files a dba for 'consulting' nutrition, palm reading, whatever
hire yourself as an employee
deposit the $ gradually
pay yourself... pay taxes

leaving out some stuff

you can also use Art sales

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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2024, 02:40:31 PM »
Local bitcoin and or local Monero. 10 people a day for 10k for 100 days.

Also, buy physical gold and silver.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2024, 02:47:49 PM »
Open a gym and create 100 fictional members at £50 a month thats 5k a month in the bank
Open a car wash washing 300 cars a week even though we only wash 20
Open a barbers doing 30 haircuts a week and say we did 300

Laundering money is piss easy these days

how you gonna explain the $$$ used to open those business's genius?

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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2024, 02:49:09 PM »
Lower the 1M as much as you can up front.

*Buy a near new car used and have them lower the value on the sale. Maybe it’s a 60k car for 10k sale invoice, easy peasy.
*Buy all new clothing.
*Buy new furniture, towels, plates etc
*Renovate house assuming you either want to live in it and/or can profit from it

Probably only 500k left now

Sell property for more since you renovated and buy a dump in a much better location. Dump 400k or so into that and live. Now you have 100k left spend over the next 5yrs or so on daily living things.

No magical laundering required and you can’t be found by audits.

You try paying for a car with 10k in cash, most dealers wont take it , they want card payments or bank transfers.
One they are wary of counterfiet cash and another they cant just put large cash deposits in the bank without it raising suspicion.

You even get question taking anything over 3k OUT the bank in the UK.
If I deposited 5k in cash in my account the bank inform the police

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2024, 02:49:23 PM »
Public works infrastructure projects. You could launder a hundred million if you wanted and never get caught

Dropping cash money into projects like this is risky.

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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2024, 02:50:50 PM »
how you gonna explain the $$$ used to open those business's genius?

take a business loan

A car wash , all you need is some spare land (old garage forecourt) a couple of jetwash and some cloths and cleaning product

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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2024, 02:51:26 PM »
Open a gym and create 100 fictional members at £50 a month thats 5k a month in the bank
Open a car wash washing 300 cars a week even though we only wash 20
Open a barbers doing 30 haircuts a week and say we did 300

Laundering money is piss easy these days

Opening businesses is easy.  Until the IRS starts asking where the start up capital came from.  Especially when there is no prior paper trial showing where the money came from.  Remember, it dollar bills you found.  If you deposit anywhere near that  much in the bank, questions are going to come up.

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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2024, 02:55:11 PM »
The car wash front was used in Breaking Bad.

I am sure the IRS flags these types of businesses and may audit. You better be able to cut hair. They could also ask around to determine how busy the barber shop was.

How were you able to open the car wash? Where did the money come from to buy or build the car wash? In Breaking Bad I seem to recall that they tried to buy it for a reasonable amount that they could claim was covered by savings. And they must have had proof of the savings.

If you have no savings and find $1 million in a suitcase, how can you provide proof that you used savings to acquire anything?

Another option is to buy a distressed property, and find contractors that are willing to work for cash and not report. Then you have them fix up the place. Learn some skills along the way. Then claim you did most of the work yourself. Of course, the IRS agents could ask the neighbors if any contractors came and went. Ideally the property would be out in the country where there are not a lot of witnesses.

You can pay for groceries and supplements in cash.
Pay restaurants with cash.


It's not that easy to launder money. An IRS audit could find holes easily.

Very good points here which I had already thought of.  However, for the two in bold...  see next reply.

Just spend the cash on daily expenses like food, take a few vacations etc. Why would you need to launder it instead of just using as extra spending cash?

When the IRS audits someone for suspected tax evasion / money laundering, not only do they look at what you bought (high purchases like vacations, tv/audio, cars, jewelry, etc..) but they also look at what you have NOT bought.  If you are paying for your gas, food, dining out, etc.. with cash.. then your bank statements will not show any purchases for those items.   So then you wind up getting questions like "does your car run on water?", "how come you so fat for someone that hasn't bought groceries or food in three months", etc...   Remember a paper trail can help you just as much as it hurts you.

This. Low risk, long term is the best way to do it. Why risk your ass and ruin your quality of life doing some sketchy kurd/turk lowlife stuff.

If you did your fuel, bills, groceries/food, car purchase/maintenance, home renovation/maintenance work, holidays etc in cash, your legit money would all be stacking up nicely in your bank account for a home purchase down the line where you can smash out the renovation work with the dirty cash.

Problem is, while that legit money would be stacking up... you still have to eat, drive your car, etc..

Also, on the subject of going on vacations, it is pretty  much the norm more often than not today that when you are in a foreign country and exchange currency, they ask for your passport and take your information.  As much as I have traveled, I can tell you that many countries now won't let you exchange more than $300-$500 USD into their form of cash currency.  (And the ones that do are mostly at the airports).  If you wanted to get like $5000USD in foreign currency, they would send you to a bank or financial center and that place would give you the foreign currency, but they would not accept the $5000USD in cash.  They would require you to use your bank card for a digital transfer to their business account rather than taking $5000USD in cash over the counter.