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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2024, 07:58:03 AM »
Wait what, 15 pull ups with 125lbs???

Yes .


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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2024, 08:06:54 AM »
Show me anyone doing 15 pull ups with that much weight.

Do Muscle Ups count?


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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #102 on: December 18, 2024, 08:07:37 AM »
Yes .

Must be a world record then, congrats.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2024, 08:11:28 AM »
trained shoulders , did some lat puldowns and staright arm pulldowns warm up
Managed 8 reps pull ups
trained chest and arms then had another go at the pull ups and did 5

So up to 8 reps now

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2024, 08:13:11 AM »
Pull ups with a 120 for 15 resp that’s crazy.

I did Pull ups first thing every workout (4 sets)  from age 15 in every single workout (including leg day)
so it took me like 10 years to get that dumbbell on my waist ....


I only got huge forearms out it  lol

I think that's even more crazy



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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2024, 08:47:07 AM »
I did Pull ups first thing every workout (4 sets)  from age 15 in every single workout (including leg day)
so it took me like 10 years to get that dumbbell on my waist ....


I only got huge forearms out it  lol

I think that's even more crazy



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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2024, 04:07:36 PM »
Up to 8 now

just did a few warm ups then went for a set, managed 8
Did the rest of my workout, full upper body session including failure sets biceps and tris

Had another go at pullups and did a set of 5 and a set of 3

Doing all my workout doesnt seem to imapct that much on the chin attempts they way it should...

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2024, 04:09:42 PM »
great thread this in fairness jeff! no doubt you wil achieve your goal mate
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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2024, 04:12:03 PM »
great thread this in fairness jeff! no doubt you wil achieve your goal mate

If I can get one extra rep a week I will piss it, I suspect its going to get a lot harder though

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #109 on: December 19, 2024, 08:48:32 AM »
Chins are a bit like squats, the numbers also depend on the range of motion. In squats, a difference of 1 inch in depth could mean a weight adjustment of 100lbs. Like with chins, can you extend your neck like crazy to almost get the chin over the bar?  :D

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2024, 08:56:43 AM »
Chins are a bit like squats, the numbers also depend on the range of motion. In squats, a difference of 1 inch in depth could mean a weight adjustment of 100lbs. Like with chins, can you extend your neck like crazy to almost get the chin over the bar?  :D

I do mine exactly like these


no chin movement, no neck stretching, no muscle up style leg flicks and jerks

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2024, 09:20:57 AM »
Swifty,
Take your time and don't rush it.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2024, 09:31:34 AM »
Swifty,
Take your time and don't rush it.

spoke to physio guy today he advised doing weighted chins to help with strength.
Im carrying 10k over my ideal weight now so repping at my current weight is like added weight

If I could do 15 reps then I may have added weight but Im only just getting 8.

He mentionecd some broscience about activating the explosive mitocondria or something like that, I zoned out a bit

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2024, 09:35:54 AM »
spoke to physio guy today he advised doing weighted chins to help with strength.
Im carrying 10k over my ideal weight now so repping at my current weight is like added weight

If I could do 15 reps then I may have added weight but Im only just getting 8.

He mentionecd some broscience about activating the explosive mitocondria or something like that, I zoned out a bit

I advise against added weight for now.
It takes awhile for your connective tissues to catch up to your muscular strength.
You want to avoid an injury.
Take your time.  You have plenty of time.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2024, 09:43:44 AM »
I advise against added weight for now.
It takes awhile for your connective tissues to catch up to your muscular strength.
You want to avoid an injury.
Take your time.  You have plenty of time.
Yes, extra weight is dumb, at least with my own bodyweight Im likely to fail the rep rather than tear something, with extra weight thats something extra pulling me.

I have gone from barely a rep to 8 in less than a month
If I can manage one rep extra a week then I will be at 20 for March

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2024, 07:46:11 AM »
managed 9 good reps today followed by a set of 6


Did my upper body workout first but saved arms until after the pull-ups

The 9 felt pretty good , I may have got a 3/4 rep if I had gone for another but Im happy with 9

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2024, 08:00:55 AM »
I advise against added weight for now.
It takes awhile for your connective tissues to catch up to your muscular strength.
You want to avoid an injury.
Take your time.  You have plenty of time.
I agree if he was knocking out 20 reps or more,adding weight would be a good idea,but not yet......that physio probably can`t do any chins.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2024, 08:01:48 AM »
managed 9 good reps today followed by a set of 6


Did my upper body workout first but saved arms until after the pull-ups

The 9 felt pretty good , I may have got a 3/4 rep if I had gone for another but Im happy with 9
Nice progress my friend!!  ;)

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2024, 08:40:50 AM »
Ive found that about 3 or so sets into chest, my pull-ups are at their best.

Don’t know why. Crush a 5x5 on the bench, then hit the bar and I feel like I weigh nothing. I’m sure it has something to do with the right amount of lat activation during bench to really warm them up w out fatiguing them.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2024, 08:53:13 AM »
About a month ago I started doing just dips and chins for my upper body workout due to a  nagging shoulder injury. They are hard! I am up to 15 reps on the dips but only 6 on neutral grip chins. I weigh 205.

I read an interesting article about the eccentric part of the chinning movement- you can get just as much hypertrophy as the concentric part. So a few days ago I did a slow lowering after my final concentric chin. I'm still feeling it in my lower lats days later.

BTW, I went to neutral grip chins because the palms facing or forward grips aggravated my shoulder. I bought these from Amazon to put over my chinning bar  and they feel great:

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #120 on: December 20, 2024, 02:17:45 PM »
About a month ago I started doing just dips and chins for my upper body workout due to a  nagging shoulder injury. They are hard! I am up to 15 reps on the dips but only 6 on neutral grip chins. I weigh 205.

I read an interesting article about the eccentric part of the chinning movement- you can get just as much hypertrophy as the concentric part. So a few days ago I did a slow lowering after my final concentric chin. I'm still feeling it in my lower lats days later.

BTW, I went to neutral grip chins because the palms facing or forward grips aggravated my shoulder. I bought these from Amazon to put over my chinning bar  and they feel great:
A neutral grip I find generally more elbow friendly too.
Even say overhead french presses I prefer a tricep bar with a neutral grip.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #121 on: December 20, 2024, 02:44:17 PM »


I read an interesting article about the eccentric part of the chinning movement- you can get just as much hypertrophy as the concentric part. So a few days ago I did a slow lowering after my final concentric chin. I'm still feeling it in my lower lats days later.



Even doing jusr the bottom half, close to the full stretch, is thought to be the most effective part for hypertrophy. For example, subjects did only the bottom part of a calf raise vs only the the top part, hypertrophy was way greater doing the bottom part. I think they did one calf one way and the other the opposite. Doing just the bottom part with chins doesn't feel 'feel' right and feel even injurious especially if you add load. But maybe extending the full range sets for a couple-three partial range might theoretically add more stinulus. If full range means actually touching you chest to the bar, like one poster above said he does, almost no one can do those at all even if they chin regularly.

I think doing a slower negative on the last rep is probably a very good idea.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2024, 02:48:05 PM »
Even doing jusr the bottom half, close to the full stretch, is thought to be the most effective part for hypertrophy. For example, subjects did only the bottom part of a calf raise vs only the the top part, hypertrophy was way greater doing the bottom part. Doing just the bottom part with chins does 'feel' right and feel even injurious especially if you add load. But maybe extending the full range sets for a couple-three partial range might theoretically add more stinulus. If full range means actually touching you chest to the bar, like one poster above said he does, almost no one can do those at all even if they chin regularly.

he said he fels chins are easier after training chest, I dont think anyone suggestting touching the bar with your chest.

the bit about bottom range of calves compared to top being more productive shows that stretching the muscle adds to growth, in fact its all that growth actually is

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2024, 03:48:24 PM »
he said he fels chins are easier after training chest, I dont think anyone suggestting touching the bar with your chest.



But there are a few who aren't impressed by chins that can't be touched to the chest, of course it's always the ones who can do it who feel this way lol, some think you should be able to touch your lower chest to the bar, even harder, others think you should be able to get you chin over the bar, even if extending the neck extremely to get the very top of the chin over even if the rest of the chin uses kipping like in crossfit. I bet most purists feel those are not actual chins. I don't know how this particular individual feels about what is a proper chin up.

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Re: 20 chins at 60
« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2024, 04:10:14 PM »
But there are a few who aren't impressed by chins that can't be touched to the chest, of course it's always the ones who can do it who feel this way lol, some think you should be able to touch your lower chest to the bar, even harder, others think you should be able to get you chin over the bar, even if extending the neck extremely to get the very top of the chin over even if the rest of the chin uses kipping like in crossfit. I bet most purists feel those are not actual chins. I don't know how this particular individual feels about what is a proper chin up.
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