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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2025, 10:18:22 AM »
We all gonna die!

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2025, 10:34:43 AM »
People born from June 21st to July 22nd have a 100% chance of being Cancers.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2025, 11:10:08 AM »
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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2025, 11:18:42 AM »
We all gonna die!
A natural death is what I aim for. Not dying from some nasty shit in a bottle.
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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2025, 12:26:23 PM »
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.

No, that was totally pushed by wine companies. There is no such things as wine being good for you, even 1-2 glasses. The evidence is extraordinarily weak. There are certain antioxidants found in wine that can be healthy but you can get the same antioxidants from other sources without the effects of alcohol.
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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2025, 01:50:44 PM »
A natural death is what I aim for. Not dying from some nasty shit in a bottle.
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?


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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2025, 01:52:54 PM »
I spoke with my oncologist today (felt bad bothering him on a Sunday) and decided to fast-track my chemo treatments without proper blood work. Thanks for the help guys!

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2025, 01:54:32 PM »
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?
When nature says you've had enough.
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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2025, 02:05:42 PM »
Seriously, what does a "natural" death even mean?

No morphine. No nothing. Just straight pain homie

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2025, 03:19:39 PM »
The liver converts ethanol to acetaldehyde in an attempt to get the ethanol out of the bloodstream. Acetaldehyde is a know carcinogen but you need elevated quantities over a period of time to trigger tumors.

Acetaldehyde is also in tobacco smoke and in vaping. It is also naturally  in some fruits, in fragrances, etc.

So if you have an occasional drink you are ok. It is the chronic exposure that is the problem.


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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2025, 04:05:47 PM »
I spoke with my oncologist today (felt bad bothering him on a Sunday) and decided to fast-track my chemo treatments without proper blood work. Thanks for the help guys!
Best of luck .Hope you’ll  get well.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2025, 05:31:05 PM »
I drank at least 40 beers one night in college while tripping on acid.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2025, 12:15:54 AM »
People born from June 21st to July 22nd have a 100% chance of being Cancers.
Brutal but true.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2025, 12:46:14 AM »
I`d like to live to be 100 and then get shot by a jealous husband.  ;)

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2025, 04:41:21 AM »
I forgot who, but someone said it's better the peasants get black out drunk and rowdy from alcholol rather that sit in cafes sipping coffee planning to overthrow the governemt.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2025, 04:55:43 AM »
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.
the glass of wine a day is a myth that has been passed around for decades but is absolutely false. The amount of alcohol that your brain will actually be unaffected by isn’t much more than the amount that’s in a dose of cough syrup. If wine were still made the way it was in biblical days then yes maybe a glass a day is good but at 10% to 18% then no it’s not “good” for you

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2025, 05:20:54 AM »
Drink up and be merry for tomorrow we die.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2025, 05:47:29 AM »
If it's a large amount of alcohol but many studies have shown a glass or two of wine is good for you.

Alcohol use is widely accepted in the US, but even moderate consumption is associated with many harmful effects

In the past two decades, the idea that moderate drinking may actually confer health benefits has taken hold, backed up by some preliminary and limited evidence. This led to the broad notion in the popular media that a glass of red wine a day reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

But there was one major flaw in many of the studies used to back up the claim that a glass of red wine is good for health. They compared those who drink at moderate levels to people who consume no alcohol whatsoever, rather than comparing those who drink heavily versus at lower levels.

There are many reasons why people who drink at moderate levels may be fundamentally different – and healthier – than those who do not drink at all. For example, many people who develop new illnesses unrelated to their alcohol use quit drinking, making the group of alcohol abstainers appear less healthy than those who consume alcohol at low or moderate levels.

In 2018, the National Institutes of Health initiated a large randomized control trial – the gold standard for understanding causal relationships – to look into the benefits of moderate drinking.

That trial was designed to pick up the heart benefits of consuming one drink a day, but was not going to be able to detect the negative consequences of moderate alcohol use, such as increases in breast cancer. Because of its inability to pick up on known alcohol-related harms and concerns that the study was co-funded by the alcohol industry, the trial was halted after a few months.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alcohol-widely-accepted-us-even-133039796.html


It Was Supposed to Be an Unbiased Study of Drinking. They Wanted to Call It ‘Cheers.’

The director of the nation’s top health research agency pulled the plug on a study of alcohol’s health effects without hesitation on Friday, saying a Harvard scientist and some of his agency’s own staff had crossed “so many lines” in pursuit of alcohol industry funding that “people were frankly shocked.”

A 165-page internal investigation prepared for Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, concluded that Kenneth J. Mukamal, the lead investigator of the trial, was in close, frequent contact with beer and liquor executives while designing the study.

Buried in that document are disturbing examples of the coziness between the scientists and their industry patrons. Dr. Mukamal was eager to allay their concerns, respond to their questions and suggestions, and secure the industry’s buy-in.


https://www.citizen.org/news/it-was-supposed-to-be-an-unbiased-study-of-drinking-they-wanted-to-call-it-cheers/

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2025, 07:02:01 AM »
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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2025, 07:12:02 AM »
Got an expensive bottle of Scotch for Christmas and you can bet I'll be drinking it, cancer be damned.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2025, 07:14:14 AM »
Got an expensive bottle of Scotch for Christmas and you can bet I'll be drinking it, cancer be damned.

Details are important here.

Please list.
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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2025, 07:19:21 AM »
Details are important here.

Please list.

Expensive for me as compared to my usual bottom shelf swill.


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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2025, 11:18:40 AM »
Churchill will be shocked to hear this.

Side effect of living is death. Lincoln, Titanic, Etc.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2025, 11:25:01 AM »
Expensive for me as compared to my usual bottom shelf swill.



That's a good bottle.  You will like it.

I had the fortune once of falling ass backwards into an all expenses paid trip to the US open when it was in Shinnecock (NH) NY.

That brand was a sponsor, so basically had unlimited access, and that's what I chose to drink Thurs-Sun.

Extremely enjoyable.

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Re: Alcohol Drinks to be Marked as Cancer Causing
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2025, 11:34:28 AM »
I think it’s quite obvious that the greater consumption of alcohol, the greater risk of physical effects. This is no conspiracy theory. I don’t think it goes back and forth. No research study has ever found that alcohol is good for you (in the general sense). There may be differences in the effects of alcohol based on individual physiology , but the consensus is that it’s bad for you.

It’s more likely that big tobacco and big alcohol and big sugar has been trying to stifle these studies to keep their own gravy train moving.

Asians get drunk from less alcohol. Do they get cancer from less alcohol too?