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« on: May 03, 2006, 10:54:15 PM »

I'm 16 and looking to bulk.
I also throw in some fatty foods and change it up abit.

8.00am. L-Glutamine

8.30am.
4 weetbix
3 eggs
Half a scoop of whey protein
300mL milk
Multi V

11.00am.
ZMA tablet

11.30am.
Chicken
Rice

12.00pm.
Creatine

12.30pm.
Workout
         
1.40 pm.
Creatine
L-Glutamine
3 tablets BCAA’S

2.15pm.
Protein shake
Steak
Rice
Nuts and seeds

5.30-6.00pm
Carrots
Peas
Potatoes
Chicken (most of the time)

9pm.
Tuna
2 bits of whole meal bread
Cottage cheese

10.30pm.
ZMA tablet

11.00pm.
400mL Milk
Half a scoop of whey protein
Blueberries or grapes
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2006, 06:42:18 AM »

damn metric system  Angry
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2006, 07:40:08 AM »

Looks like a well thought-out plan.  Seems to cover all the bases.  I'm not a big believer in ZMA supplements, but whatever.  The rest of your set up looks pretty solid though.  Should work well for you.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006, 07:50:30 PM »

Looks like a well thought-out plan.  Seems to cover all the bases.  I'm not a big believer in ZMA supplements, but whatever.  The rest of your set up looks pretty solid though.  Should work well for you.

Thanks the guys out at this hardcore bodybuilding gym I go to sometimes are helping me because they seem to think I can win the teen nationals (Australia) at 16. They said there 90% sure i'll win.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 09:14:50 PM »

for me anytime upping the protein, I get stronger and bigger. like 40-50 grams protein per meal.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2006, 10:25:36 PM »

You shouldnt have creatine before working out bro.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2006, 07:55:15 AM »

You shouldnt have creatine before working out bro.

Why do you say this?  That's kind of an ignorant comment.  It makes perfect sense to supplement with creatine before AND after your workout.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2006, 05:44:39 PM »

I have creatine before a workout because i find it gives me a better pump and gives me more strength  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2006, 06:06:10 PM »

I'm 16 and looking to bulk.
I also throw in some fatty foods and change it up abit.

8.00am. L-Glutamine

8.30am.
4 weetbix
3 eggs
Half a scoop of whey protein
300mL milk
Multi V

11.00am.
ZMA tablet

11.30am.
Chicken
Rice

12.00pm.
Creatine

12.30pm.
Workout
         
1.40 pm.
Creatine
L-Glutamine
3 tablets BCAA’S

2.15pm.
Protein shake
Steak
Rice
Nuts and seeds

5.30-6.00pm
Carrots
Peas
Potatoes
Chicken (most of the time)

9pm.
Tuna
2 bits of whole meal bread
Cottage cheese

10.30pm.
ZMA tablet

11.00pm.
400mL Milk
Half a scoop of whey protein
Blueberries or grapes


How much glutamine?  IMO if you're bulking you could adios it and save some $$$ (spend it on Fish Oil instead)

ZMA should be taken 30-60 mins before bed, however, it should also not be taken with calcium products.  Keep at least 45 mins. between the ZMA and cottage cheese / milk.  So you'll need to do a little meal rearranging.  I'd like to see a little more green in the diet  Kiss and no - peas don't count.


You shouldnt have creatine before working out bro.

Creatine before a workout is fine.
Is your creatine a blend or just straight?  It's absorbed better with something like dextrose (very cheap).

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2006, 07:01:48 AM »

I use about 3 grams of glutamine.
I'm going to up my glutamine amount pre contest.
And I take the creatine with glucose powder and that is very similar to dextrose.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2006, 07:31:35 AM »

I use about 3 grams of glutamine.
I'm going to up my glutamine amount pre contest.

3 grams is a waste IMO
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2006, 03:32:03 PM »


3 grams is a waste IMO



This is what 2 good bodybuilders who are personal trainers said to me. They said you don't need to use alot because there will already be about 4 grams in my protein powder so thats like 7 grams post workout and they also said precontest i'll need to be taking alot more.
And i'm doing my certificate 3 in fitness and I  would of done the same thing without them telling me.
But thats just what they said and what I think.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2006, 03:48:31 PM »



This is what 2 good bodybuilders who are personal trainers said to me. They said you don't need to use alot because there will already be about 4 grams in my protein powder so thats like 7 grams post workout and they also said precontest i'll need to be taking alot more.
And i'm doing my certificate 3 in fitness and I  would of done the same thing without them telling me.
But thats just what they said and what I think.

It's effects on immune function are pretty well established ~ muscle hypertrophy = nadda
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2006, 04:05:37 PM »


It's effects on immune function are pretty well established ~ muscle hypertrophy = nadda


I agree with this point, I supplement 20 grams of Glutamine per day, 10g in the morning and another 10g post workout... however, I doubt it does anything for muscle growth.  I would also second the point that you need more veg.  add in 2 cups of brocolli (buy it frozen, cheap and easy) per day!
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2006, 05:31:38 PM »

I thought ZMA was to be taken all at once before bed.  Should I start taking it spread through-out the day?
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2006, 06:45:18 PM »

I thought ZMA was to be taken all at once before bed. 

uh huh  Wink
ZMA should be taken 30-60 mins before bed, however, it should also not be taken with calcium products.  Keep at least 45 mins. between the ZMA and cottage cheese / milk.  
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2006, 06:58:32 PM »



I agree with this point, I supplement 20 grams of Glutamine per day, 10g in the morning and another 10g post workout... however, I doubt it does anything for muscle growth.  

Hey Princess, how much would you recommend?

I seem to recall reading somewhere Verkhoshansky having athletes supplementing with 20-30+ grams with good results in terms of recovery and performance.

I think glutamine is great for GI tract health and I think it's valuable to protect the immune system during heavy training, endurance training and severe (contest prep) cutting. It's not anabolic and it's nothing magical.
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