Hypertrophy v hyperplasia

[IroNat]

And in the death, as the last few corpses lay rotting on the slimy thoroughfare, the shutters lifted an inch in temperance building, high on Poacher's Hill and red mutant eyes gazed down on Hunger City. No more big wheels. Fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats and ten thousand peoploids split into small tribes, coveting the highest of the sterile skyscrapers like packs of dogs assaulting the glass fronts of Love-Me Avenue. Ripping and rewrapping mink and shiny silver fox, now legwarmers. Family badge of sapphire and cracked emerald. Any day now, the year of the Diamond Dogs

"This ain't rock and roll! This is genocide!"

[bhank]

I saw David Bowie perform with Nine Inch Nail it was a really good concert

[irishdave]

I saw David Bowie perform with Nine Inch Nail it was a really good concert

Judging by that avatar somebody else has your account now

[wes]

Isn't he the ancient Greek expert on Fuck all. He's where Bianca gets all his useless
Information from.

[bhank]

Judging by that avatar somebody else has your account now

I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.

[38 returns]

I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.

key difference is dangerfield was liked and had friends. he also wasnt a shamed out of the army junkie who aid men to bang him in the ass.

[webstar]

I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.

I’m sure you did, bro. It was in between your fights during school. 100 fights a day. And then walking the streets of New York eating hotdogs. Because you were too poor. But then in winter you would go ski. The Swiss Alps makes total sense man.

[joswift]

I loved back to school probably watched it 100 times as a kid it was a great movie. By my math Dangerfield was 65 years old so I am a bit younger.

story of a kid with a rich dad who is failing at everything in school so his dad goes to the school to try and make his son popular

No wonder you have watched it so many times, its your fucking life story

[38 returns]

and learning calculus overnight, wrasling internationally, running cross country in national level times, zipping round the south bronx on a scooter, being banned from taking the principles daughter to the prom, attending 5 different schools and undertaking studies for NASA.


STANDARD CHILDHOOD AND VERY BELIEVABLE,

[Hulkotron]

Muscle grows through the activation of satellite cells, which are muscle stem cells that reside within the muscle fibers; when stimulated by exercise or injury, these cells proliferate, differentiate into myoblasts, and then fuse with existing muscle fibers, adding new nuclei and contributing to muscle growth (hypertrophy) by increasing the fiber size and overall muscle mass.

So these "satellite cells" essentially become part of the existing muscle cell. So I think it's a bit of semantics in that I guess it depends on whether you think a stem cell that begins to grow and proliferate in direct response to training or gear is new muscle cells. Then there the idea of a muscle cell vs a muscle fiber, which is essentially a "type" of muscle cell and then myofibrils and stuff that gets beyond my knowledge.

I don't have my copy from 30 years ago but if anyone finds Duchaines Underground Steroid Handbook 2 I remember he gives a very detailed version of how muscle grows, If anyone has a copy he gets into the whole scientific process but everyone just skipped to the red pages.

 I linked an article showing that elite powerlifters had more muscle fibers than controls but it could be all genetic, I just scanned the article. Thanks for an interesting discussion on the topic

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00421171#:~:text=Despite%20large%20differences%20in%20elbow,fibres%20than%20the%20controls%20did.

Great post thanks

[nobody in particular]

Who is Apoptosis.....does he post here?   

being from melbourne, which has the second highest greek population of any city with the sole exception of the capital of greece - athens, I know this one.

He is actually getting it mixed up with ἀπό-πίσω which could be phonetically represented in English by 'apo-piso' , which is his most frequent search term on the net, and alludes to his favourite erm exercise.

He would no doubt also be familiar with Ποιος είναι ο μπαμπάς σου - 'pios einai o papa sou' which would be 'words of encouragement' yelled at him during the erm work set by his training partner - no wait I mean his personal trainer, because it woiuld be someone who is being paid to train him.  (which rather ironically unravels another semhanktic lie 'he never paid men to fuck him in the arse' because he was actually paying for a personal trainer, yeah that'll throw them off the scent )

following right along it might point out more semhanktics. Not rec drugs, the heavy painkillers/ketamine were actually biologically identical and medicinal for injuries to his sphincter that his official report had him claiming was the result of a freak almost act of god accident on the mortar training course..Likely as not it was Goodrum (who is a good bloke imo more power to him) with a no lube no warning 20 yard run-up foreplay style. Fire in the hole indeed

I’m sure you did, bro. It was in between your fights during school. 100 fights a day.

And yet the complete absence of any serious scarring on the knuckles.But yeah, thats factually actually impossible unless he didn't land a single punch. Hell even if he hits like a girl (which we hgave seen to be true - even juiced to the gills) his hands would be scars upon scars. It's almost like he's a liar.

being banned from taking the principles daughter to the prom,

that might hgave been due to the 12 year age difference - the haters kept him back a year or two till he could hold a pencil

and undertaking studies for NASA.

well they did send chimps up in space first - you know - perfect the technology with expendablelife forms who are otherwise worthless to society. he'd qualift on another level too - astronauts - even chimpds had to be under 5'11 for the mercury space craft and under 180 lbs (easy - just take him off the PEDs for a couple of months.)

[_bruce_]

Hooper has small joints - he's destroying himself.
He kinda looks like a lean Eric Cartman.

[MajorDomo]

Bhank ruins every thread he posts in.

[wes]

being from melbourne, which has the second highest greek population of any city with the sole exception of the capital of greece - athens, I know this one.

He is actually getting it mixed up with ἀπό-πίσω which could be phonetically represented in English by 'apo-piso' , which is his most frequent search term on the net, and alludes to his favourite erm exercise.

He would no doubt also be familiar with Ποιος είναι ο μπαμπάς σου - 'pios einai o papa sou' which would be 'words of encouragement' yelled at him during the erm work set by his training partner - no wait I mean his personal trainer, because it woiuld be someone who is being paid to train him.  (which rather ironically unravels another semhanktic lie 'he never paid men to fuck him in the arse' because he was actually paying for a personal trainer, yeah that'll throw them off the scent )

following right along it might point out more semhanktics. Not rec drugs, the heavy painkillers/ketamine were actually biologically identical and medicinal for injuries to his sphincter that his official report had him claiming was the result of a freak almost act of god accident on the mortar training course..Likely as not it was Goodrum (who is a good bloke imo more power to him) with a no lube no warning 20 yard run-up foreplay style. Fire in the hole indeed

And yet the complete absence of any serious scarring on the knuckles.But yeah, thats factually actually impossible unless he didn't land a single punch. Hell even if he hits like a girl (which we hgave seen to be true - even juiced to the gills) his hands would be scars upon scars. It's almost like he's a liar.

that might hgave been due to the 12 year age difference - the haters kept him back a year or two till he could hold a pencil

well they did send chimps up in space first - you know - perfect the technology with expendablelife forms who are otherwise worthless to society. he'd qualift on another level too - astronauts - even chimpds had to be under 5'11 for the mercury space craft and under 180 lbs (easy - just take him off the PEDs for a couple of months.)

Good stuff.....please never stop posting here. 

[Vince B]

I had no idea that rats, cats, and birds lifted weights........thanks for that Brian.....I learn something new here on the daily. 

Quite true. One super cat had to lift a resistance to get food and she developed larger muscles. It was a shame that cat had to die for science. Birds had to hop around with a weight on one wing which was increased over time. Both cat and quail grew larger muscles, perhaps hyperplasia.

The problem with hypertrophy in champion bodybuilders is that they have never been tested to find out what their muscles are composed of. I doubt any would consent to having some fibers taken from precious muscles. The exercise scientists completely ignore champion bodybuilders so we will have to remain somewhat ignorant because there is no science relating to their superior muscle size.

[wes]

Quite true. One super cat had to lift a resistance to get food and she developed larger muscles. It was a shame that cat had to die for science. Birds had to hop around with a weight on one wing which was increased over time. Both cat and quail grew larger muscles, perhaps hyperplasia.

The problem with hypertrophy in champion bodybuilders is that they have never been tested to find out what their muscles are composed of. I doubt any would consent to having some fibers taken from precious muscles. The exercise scientists completely ignore champion bodybuilders so we will have to remain somewhat ignorant because there is no science relating to their superior muscle size.

key word

I do get your point though Vince.

[Donny]

Quite true. One super cat had to lift a resistance to get food and she developed larger muscles. It was a shame that cat had to die for science. Birds had to hop around with a weight on one wing which was increased over time. Both cat and quail grew larger muscles, perhaps hyperplasia.

The problem with hypertrophy in champion bodybuilders is that they have never been tested to find out what their muscles are composed of. I doubt any would consent to having some fibers taken from precious muscles. The exercise scientists completely ignore champion bodybuilders so we will have to remain somewhat ignorant because there is no science relating to their superior muscle size.

Vince what's your analysis of this feat of muscle building hypertrophy ?

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[Vince B]

Vince what's your analysis of this feat of muscle building hypertrophy ?

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Good way to tear biceps and damage your spine. I tore my right biceps doing a dead lift with 510 pounds. Cold night and warmed up with 400. Silly me. I don't recommend this movement for bodybuilders. Of course Matt Canning will continue to do them.

[Skeletor]

Good way to tear biceps and damage your spine. I tore my right biceps doing a dead lift with 510 pounds. Cold night and warmed up with 400. Silly me. I don't recommend this movement for bodybuilders. Of course Matt Canning will continue to do them.

Did you use mixed grip?

[wes]

Vince what's your analysis of this feat of muscle building hypertrophy ?

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What a fucking idiot.....I see traction in his future.....nice looking gym though.

[Donny]

What a fucking idiot.....I see traction in his future.....nice looking gym though.

reminded me of one retard in the gym 

[joswift]

reminded me of one retard in the gym 

at least he lowered in in a controlled fashion 

[Donny]

at least he lowered in in a controlled fashion 

gotta get the Negatives 

[wes]

gotta get the Negatives 

He both raised it in a negative fashion, as well a lowering it in a negative fashion. 

[Donny]

He both raised it in a negative fashion, as well a lowering it in a negative fashion.