Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files.

[joswift]

so basically you think it´s OK to take advantage of a young innocent girl & who exactly is the "decent Human Being" ? you? the Predator ?

Maybe in the middle ages people fucked young girls but we have nowadays morals for a reason. were you brought up in a stable?

are you drunk, fucks sake

I never said anything aprt from Andrew didnt commit a crime worthy of a prison sentence, the rest you have made up in your delusional moronic head

By the way, where do your morals stem from?

[Donny]

are you drunk, fucks sake

I never said anything aprt from Andrew didnt commit a crime worthy of a prison sentence, the rest you have made up in your delusional moronic head

By the way, where do your morals stem from?

Human decency & normal social engagment in society.

[joswift]

Human decency & normal social engagment in society.

so what you think is moral is moral.. gotcha...

[Donny]

so what you think is moral is moral.. gotcha...

most grown men think like that, of course you could be in the % who don´t.

[joswift]

most grown men think like that, of course you could be in the % who don´t.

Your morals are based on your preferences, nothing more nothing less.

[Donny]

Your morals are based on your preferences, nothing more nothing less.

yes mine are based on the majority, yours is the minority

[joswift]

yes mine are based on the majority, yours is the minority

how do you know what mine are?

I havent made any moral claims at all.

[Donny]

how do you know what mine are?

I havent made any moral claims at all.

exactly .. Check Mate 

[chaos]

Of course I wouldnt be happy about it but people are calling for Andrew to be in jail...

Thats my point.

Im taking emotion out of the equation and using logic and reason and facts.

Aren't you the same country that puts people in jail for posts on the internet? Did you pay for your tv license so Andrew can pay for underage girls??? If he broke the law, he should pay for his crime, whatever that means in the court system. I don't know your laws over there, but if you were accused of doing what he did, would you be facing the gallows right now?

[joswift]

Aren't you the same country that puts people in jail for posts on the internet? Did you pay for your tv license so Andrew can pay for underage girls??? If he broke the law, he should pay for his crime, whatever that means in the court system. I don't know your laws over there, but if you were accused of doing what he did, would you be facing the gallows right now?

Obviously not

he slept with a 17 year old where the legal age of consent is 16.

Is it right or wrong morally isnt the question, its a fact he didnt break any laws.

My opinons on the morality of it isnt even relevant to the point I was making.

And if I did what he did no, I wouldnt be facing the gallows at all, I would be "frowned upon" at worst.

Fucks sake can you lot not distinguish beween an "ought" and an "is"

[chaos]

Obviously not

he slept with a 17 year old where the legal age of consent is 16.

Is it right or wrong morally isnt the question, its a fact he didnt break any laws.

My opinons on the morality of it isnt even relevant to the point I was making.

And if I did what he did no, I wouldnt be facing the gallows at all, I would be "frowned upon" at worst.

Fucks sake can you lot not distinguish beween an "ought" and an "is"

Relax, take your emotions out of it. I admitted I was not aware of your laws over there. If he didn't break the law, then what's the problem? Those feeling some moral way about it should petition to get the law changed.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

Truth will never come out. Too many people and agencies (CIA) that have to be protected. I guess it's some kind of improvement that the CIA does not feel the need to murder another American president, but now chooses to blackmail them.

[Phantom Spunker]

Relax, take your emotions out of it. I admitted I was not aware of your laws over there. If he didn't break the law, then what's the problem? Those feeling some moral way about it should petition to get the law changed.

The issue was never about age-of-consent laws in the straightforward sense. As Joswift was saying, those weren't violated. However, she filed a civil suit alleging that she was the victim of sex trafficking and sexual assault. It never went to trial, so her version of events was not proven and there was obvious skepticism around her claims of being under duress. I believe that in the US there would have been a case regardless, as individuals under the age of 18 cannot legally consent to 'commercial sex'.

[Van_Bilderass]

Maybe in the middle ages people fucked young girls but we have nowadays morals for a reason. were you brought up in a stable?

You don't have to go back to the middle ages Go back a few decades. Look at age of consent laws in say France or Mexico or here in Sweden (15). If I'm not mistaken the most popular porn category is "teens" now often called "18-19 year olds." Why is that, could it have to do with that DNA thing joswift mentioned? dj has mentioned anonymous questionnaires on what age men find most attractive on average, they are instructive. I'm not going to talk about my personal preferenses or morals, it's absolutely useless, no one can read minds over the internet. Go back just a few ears and all rockers bragged about having 18 year old girlfriends, it was a batch of achievement. Look at all famous men in recent decades, how many were "pedos"? Quite many. It's fucked up fathers for example can't protect their daughters nowadays, can't lock thrm up, though of course in the past they may have married them off with some much older rich dude. The Muslims do, but they are repressive barbarians right? There are some "Nazis" who talk about a need for "white sharia" to protect white girls but we don't want that right?

[chaos]

You don't have to go back to the middle ages Go back a few decades. Look at age of consent laws in say France or Mexico or here in Sweden (15). If I'm not mistaken the most popular porn category is "teens" now often called "18-19 year olds." Why is that, could it have to do with that DNA thing joswift mentioned? dj has mentioned anonymous questionnaires on what age men find most attractive on average, they are instructive. I'm not going to talk about my personal preferenses or morals, it's absolutely useless, no one can read minds over the internet. Go back just a few ears and all rockers bragged about having 18 year old girlfriends, it was a batch of achievement. Look at all famous men in recent decades, how many were "pedos"? Quite many. It's fucked up fathers for example can't protect their daughters nowadays, can't lock thrm up, though of course in the past they may have married them off with some much older rich dude. The Muslims do, but they are repressive barbarians right? There are some "Nazis" who talk about a need for "white sharia" to protect white girls but we don't want that right?

Link? For research purposes of course.

[LurkerNoMore]

So what was on Bondi's desk then?  She practically bragged about it.   

[tom joad]

Guys, don’t waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. (unlike, say, Rosie O’Donnell.)

[Rambone]

Guys, don’t waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. (unlike, say, Rosie O’Donnell.)

Exactly. Who gives a fuck about Rosie Bondi sucks cawk

[tom joad]

Exactly. Who gives a fuck about Rosie Bondi sucks cawk

Agreed. So …

Trump is still talking about Rosie O’Donnell? Somebody that nobody (or very very few) cares about.

[B_B_C]

has any body queried the significance of inverted commas :

This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.”

does it mean there are no incriminated clients or just that they have not been specifically listed...? 




https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25992101/epstein.pdf

U.S. Department of Justice
Federal Bureau of Investigation
________________________ ________________________ ________________________ __
As part of our commitment to transparency, the Department of Justice and the Federal
Bureau of Investigation have conducted an exhaustive review of investigative holdings relating to
Jeffrey Epstein. To ensure that the review was thorough, the FBI conducted digital searches of its
databases, hard drives, and network drives as well as physical searches of squad areas, locked
cabinets, desks, closets, and other areas where responsive material may have been stored. These
searches uncovered a significant amount of material, including more than 300 gigabytes of data
and physical evidence.
The files relating to Epstein include a large volume of images of Epstein, images and videos
of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors, and over ten thousand downloaded videos
and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography. Teams of agents, analysts,
attorneys, and privacy and civil liberties experts combed through the digital and documentary
evidence with the aim of providing as much information as possible to the public while
simultaneously protecting victims. Much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing. Only
a fraction of this material would have been aired publicly had Epstein gone to trial, as the seal
served only to protect victims and did not expose any additional third-parties to allegations of
illegal wrongdoing. Through this review, we found no basis to revisit the disclosure of those
materials and will not permit the release of child pornography.
This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.” There was also no credible
evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not
uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.
Consistent with prior disclosures, this review confirmed that Epstein harmed over one
thousand victims. Each suffered unique trauma. Sensitive information relating to these victims is
intertwined throughout the materials. This includes specific details such as victim names and
likenesses, physical descriptions, places of birth, associates, and employment history.
One of our highest priorities is combatting child exploitation and bringing justice to
victims. Perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein serves neither of those ends.
To that end, while we have labored to provide the public with maximum information
regarding Epstein and ensured examination of any evidence in the government’s possession, it is
the determination of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that no
further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted.
After a thorough investigation, FBI investigators concluded that Jeffrey Epstein committed
suicide in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City on August 10, 2019.
This conclusion is consistent with previous findings, including the August 19, 2019 autopsy
findings of the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, the November 2019 position
of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York in connection with the
investigation of federal correctional officers responsible for guarding Epstein, and the June 2023
conclusions of DOJ’s Office of the Inspector General.
The conclusion that Epstein died by suicide is further supported by video footage from the
common area of the Special Housing Unit (SHU) where Epstein was housed at the time of his
death. As DOJ’s Inspector General explained in 2023, anyone entering or attempting to enter the
tier where Epstein’s cell was located from the SHU common area would have been captured by
this footage. The FBI’s independent review of this footage confirmed that from the time Epstein
was locked in his cell at around 10:40 pm on August 9, 2019, until around 6:30 am the next
morning, nobody entered any of the tiers in the SHU.
During this review, the FBI enhanced the relevant footage by increasing its contrast,
balancing the color, and improving its sharpness for greater clarity and viewability. The full raw
and enhanced videos are available at the following links: https://www.justice.gov/video-file1;
https://www.justice.gov/video-file2.
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