Dante's Doggcrapp Training - unique and effective?

[Below Me]

Does anyone care what routines the pro's use?  Genetics & juice are what makes top bodybuilders.

[natural al]

not according to Tom Prince...

[DOGGCRAPP]

So with your reasoning I could concur that any pro bodybuilder who has a weak bodypart, means his training sucks for that bodypart? You dont think Marcus Ruhl has tried every method around to bring up his triceps? Craig Titus tried every method around to bring up his chest? Milos probably tried many different things for his arms? Name your weak bodypart--does that mean YOU have no clue whatsoever how to train it? This is what bodybuilding is all about. Its the rarest of individuals who has 100% even development. You could have every pro out there with a weak back, copy exactly what Ronnie does for back and they wouldnt even get close to looking like Ronnies back.   Daves brought his legs up dramatically from 3 years ago and will continue to do so. Its not like he and I dont know what his catchup bodyparts are.

Here is a teenager I trained who does alot of the exact same things via hamstrings as Dave. So now what does that do for your argument? Everybody who does my methods sure as hell arent going to end up with shoulders or a back like Dave either. This endeavor is about genetics and what you do with that genetic hand youve been dealt. If your arms absolutely suck after 2 years of hard training guess what? Trust me, they are never going to be your standout bodypart-EVER.
Natural Al I appreciate your posts over here--continued success to you on your gains

[alexxx]

So with your reasoning I could concur that any pro bodybuilder who has a weak bodypart, means his training sucks for that bodypart? You dont think Marcus Ruhl has tried every method around to bring up his triceps? Craig Titus tried every method around to bring up his chest? Milos probably tried many different things for his arms? Name your weak bodypart--does that mean YOU have no clue whatsoever how to train it? This is what bodybuilding is all about. Its the rarest of individuals who has 100% even development. You could have every pro out there with a weak back, copy exactly what Ronnie does for back and they wouldnt even get close to looking like Ronnies back.   Daves brought his legs up dramatically from 3 years ago and will continue to do so. Its not like he and I dont know what his catchup bodyparts are.

Here is a teenager I trained who does alot of the exact same things via hamstrings as Dave. So now what does that do for your argument? Everybody who does my methods sure as hell arent going to end up with shoulders or a back like Dave either. This endeavor is about genetics and what you do with that genetic hand youve been dealt. If your arms absolutely suck after 2 years of hard training guess what? Trust me, they are never going to be your standout bodypart-EVER.
Natural Al I appreciate your posts over here--continued success to you on your gains

What does his cycle look like thanks!

[natural al]

So with your reasoning I could concur that any pro bodybuilder who has a weak bodypart, means his training sucks for that bodypart? You dont think Marcus Ruhl has tried every method around to bring up his triceps? Craig Titus tried every method around to bring up his chest? Milos probably tried many different things for his arms? Name your weak bodypart--does that mean YOU have no clue whatsoever how to train it? This is what bodybuilding is all about. Its the rarest of individuals who has 100% even development. You could have every pro out there with a weak back, copy exactly what Ronnie does for back and they wouldnt even get close to looking like Ronnies back.   Daves brought his legs up dramatically from 3 years ago and will continue to do so. Its not like he and I dont know what his catchup bodyparts are.

Here is a teenager I trained who does alot of the exact same things via hamstrings as Dave. So now what does that do for your argument? Everybody who does my methods sure as hell arent going to end up with shoulders or a back like Dave either. This endeavor is about genetics and what you do with that genetic hand youve been dealt. If your arms absolutely suck after 2 years of hard training guess what? Trust me, they are never going to be your standout bodypart-EVER.
Natural Al I appreciate your posts over here--continued success to you on your gains

Thanks dante, I post over at IM as a-dog.  I try not to ask too many questions but I will say that everytime I inquire about something Dante or one of the other DC experts responds very quickly.  This guy knows what the hell he's talking about and the people he trains are proof of that.  Maybe if some of you guys would do some research into how muscle's grow and the imortance of recovery you'd understand why these theories hold water.

[LuciusFox]

not according to Tom Prince...

  Tom Prince was 5-7 and 230 pounds before he touched gear so he probably has a distorted opinion about the importance of gear.

[natural al]

  Tom Prince was 5-7 and 230 pounds before he touched gear so he probably has a distorted opinion about the importance of gear.

go check out his thread on BB.com...it'll prolly piss ya off some..

[LuciusFox]

go check out his thread on BB.com...it'll prolly piss ya off some..

 Why?

[brianX]

oh yea, and all those tiny powerlifters too....all that low volume , 3X3 stuff,  what are they thinking?


have ya actually tried the program?

Many of the best powerlifters use extremely high volume. You have obviously never heard of Brian Siders or Bill Kazmaier.

[hangclean]

Many of the best powerlifters use extremely high volume. You have obviously never heard of Brian Siders or Bill Kazmaier.

Actually, most powerlifters use high volume for the assistance excercises.  Even Westside training they use high volume.  They may only do a few reps for the actual big three, but the rest is usually high volume.

[andydude00]

thanks, gonna try it.

[LuciusFox]

thanks, gonna try it.

  Let us know how it turns out!

[ManBearPig...]

dc training's for homosexuals.

[Cold]

how dumb can u be? if he put on a lot of size using DC training, then u need to give props to DC training (ofcourse training is only one part of the equation. perhaps his nutrition, AAS, preparation, etc. got better). just becuz someone has a crappy body part doesnt necessarily mean the way he trains is wrong.

[Cold]

and by the way, nice to see you post here Dante. I used your training ideas years ago and I liked them a lot. I still go back to them once in a while to help me get past a plateau. Works extremely well. Ur a bright bright man.

[ssparty]

dc training's for homosexuals.

how long you been dc lifting.

[LuciusFox]

how long you been dc lifting.

  Longer than you have been posting here

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Oh, by the way I am a natural bodybuilder too... my anabolic weapon is food.

HAHAHAHAHAH okay. hahahahah your just a warrior!!!!!!!

[LuciusFox]

HAHAHAHAHAH okay. hahahahah your just a warrior!!!!!!!

  You two should have a posedown!

[rayrod]

Natural Al - on your post you reflect that the body is split into two halves.   Let's say you train workout 1 on Monday do you train workout  2 on Tuesday and start up again on  workout 1 on Thursday?   I've never tried DC Training and would like to give it a shot. 

[LuciusFox]

Natural Al - on your post you reflect that the body is split into two halves.   Let's say you train workout 1 on Monday do you train workout  2 on Tuesday and start up again on  workout 1 on Thursday?   I've never tried DC Training and would like to give it a shot. 

 Do you have any olive oil handy?

[rayrod]

if i need some i'll borrow yours

[natural al]

Natural Al - on your post you reflect that the body is split into two halves.   Let's say you train workout 1 on Monday do you train workout  2 on Tuesday and start up again on  workout 1 on Thursday?   I've never tried DC Training and would like to give it a shot. 

workout one would be monday, workout 2 would be wedsday and then you would repeat workout one on friday but with different movements, so if you used inclines for chest on monday you might use a hammer machine on friday...this is really simplified explanation, you might want to check out intensemuscle and go to the dc forums...or you could search over on google for doggcrapp and look for the dog log....or I guess you could IM me and I could go into more detail....

Do you have any olive oil handy?

it's funny how people focus on this....if you are an ectomorph what would be the problem with adding olive oil to a shake, it's very calorically dense and it's a good fat....you use it to up your daily calorie count, if you're fat you skip it...it's not that hard to understand....I've never had to use it but I think if I was stuck at 125lbs for along time and someone said "try adding olive oil to your protien shakes" I might give it a try...

[LuciusFox]

workout one would be monday, workout 2 would be wedsday and then you would repeat workout one on friday but with different movements, so if you used inclines for chest on monday you might use a hammer machine on friday...this is really simplified explanation, you might want to check out intensemuscle and go to the dc forums...or you could search over on google for doggcrapp and look for the dog log....or I guess you could IM me and I could go into more detail....

it's funny how people focus on this....if you are an ectomorph what would be the problem with adding olive oil to a shake, it's very calorically dense and it's a good fat....you use it to up your daily calorie count, if you're fat you skip it...it's not that hard to understand....I've never had to use it but I think if I was stuck at 125lbs for along time and someone said "try adding olive oil to your protien shakes" I might give it a try...

 I see that you have no sense of humor

[natural al]

I see that you have no sense of humor

I see you reply to eveythread on this board even if you have nothing to add