Author Topic: Dante's Doggcrapp Training - unique and effective?  (Read 58938 times)

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #250 on: April 09, 2017, 02:11:22 PM »
Lifting will never be rocket physics. Many simpletons have become fantastic bodybuilders. Many very intelligent trainers really stink at bodybuilding. Yes, more to take into account than just genetic predisposition. There are no facts in lifting. What we have are theories. You can't argue that a theory is a fact. If we had facts we would all be training with the same training protocol. 


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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #251 on: April 09, 2017, 02:16:22 PM »
Lifting will never be rocket physics. Many simpletons have become fantastic bodybuilders. Many very intelligent trainers really stink at bodybuilding. Yes, more to take into account than just genetic predisposition. There are no facts in lifting. What we have are theories. You can't argue that a theory is a fact. If we had facts we would all be training with the same training protocol. 



Wise and true words. What attracted me to Dante's training philosophy was the logic in his reasoning.

http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/1215471959-DC_Workout_Crib_Notes.pdf

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #252 on: April 09, 2017, 02:32:44 PM »
I agree with a lot of what he says. Correct me if I'm wrong but he is basically saying if you get stronger in relatively low reps and low sets you will get bigger. Truth in that but also truth in that muscular endurance might play a bigger role in muscle size than pure strength. If it's pure strength that makes a muscle bigger why don't we all do our exercises in say sets of four and single reps (4 x 1)? That's a fast way to get stronger. Reference muscular endurance I am not talking about aerobic endurance but rather using my term of muscular endurance. Training with volume will increase muscular endurance and muscle size. The overwhelming majority of successful champs have used this method. Some might point out the failures too but that doesn't negate how many champs have used volume. I think ultimately both are important for muscle size. Getting stronger for low reps and getting stronger for endurance lifting.  Guys that are use to lifting heavy for a low amount of sets are often shocked how hard it is to do their  exercises for say 5 sets of 12 reps.

One thing is a fact. A work ethic often trumps every other factor except genetic predisposition.

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #253 on: April 09, 2017, 03:13:47 PM »
So 1 generic set equals a rest-pause set or a 2nd widow maker set?  ::)
You obviously don't know what you're talking about, since you haven't tried DC yourself.

i havent tried BFT* either. dont need to. ill stick to 3 sets of 10.

* blood-flow-training, 9 sets of 9, standing on your head while eating a banana and drinking russian vodka.

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #254 on: April 09, 2017, 03:15:28 PM »
Cycle for pennies

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #255 on: April 09, 2017, 03:41:18 PM »
I agree with a lot of what he says. Correct me if I'm wrong but he is basically saying if you get stronger in relatively low reps and low sets you will get bigger. Truth in that but also truth in that muscular endurance might play a bigger role in muscle size than pure strength. If it's pure strength that makes a muscle bigger why don't we all do our exercises in say sets of four and single reps (4 x 1)? That's a fast way to get stronger. Reference muscular endurance I am not talking about aerobic endurance but rather using my term of muscular endurance. Training with volume will increase muscular endurance and muscle size. The overwhelming majority of successful champs have used this method. Some might point out the failures too but that doesn't negate how many champs have used volume. I think ultimately both are important for muscle size. Getting stronger for low reps and getting stronger for endurance lifting.  Guys that are use to lifting heavy for a low amount of sets are often shocked how hard it is to do their  exercises for say 5 sets of 12 reps.

One thing is a fact. A work ethic often trumps every other factor except genetic predisposition.

100% agree with the bold written statement (the rest of your posting as well).
I remember a recent meta-study of Brad Schoenfeld, that shows a relation between volume and the rate of hypertrophy with a near optimal volume of >=9 sets per muscle/week.
Applying both methods (a strength phase and a 'pump' phase) in a periodization scheme might lead to better results on the long term, but keep in mind, not everyone will respond the same.


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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #256 on: April 09, 2017, 04:21:27 PM »
100% agree with the bold written statement (the rest of your posting as well).
I remember a recent meta-study of Brad Schoenfeld...


Dat ninja dont even look like he lifts or a bodybuilder! Ninja looks like a DYEL'er! Ninja should stick to da studies and books!

I will say it took me twelve sets for chest every six days to bring dat shit up. I won a natty pro card doin da same shit every other BBer does. But I was curious about DC because I know this was da DC heyday back in da days!

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #257 on: April 09, 2017, 04:24:56 PM »
We ran that guy off years ago.

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #258 on: April 09, 2017, 04:27:58 PM »
We ran that guy off years ago.

I saw dat back in da days when I wasn't a memba here. Ninjas be treatin' dat ninja, and Meadows too, like dey gods or some shit.

Can't front doe. Looks like deez ninjas be making dat chedda at da end of da day!

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #259 on: April 09, 2017, 08:06:50 PM »
Here is the creator, Dante


that is a lot of out season

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #260 on: April 10, 2017, 03:32:11 AM »
Dat ninja dont even look like he lifts or a bodybuilder! Ninja looks like a DYEL'er! Ninja should stick to da studies and books!

I will say it took me twelve sets for chest every six days to bring dat shit up. I won a natty pro card doin da same shit every other BBer does. But I was curious about DC because I know this was da DC heyday back in da days!

This may come as a surprise to you, but you don't need to be muscular to conduct a meta-study.

As I said before, combining a DC with a volume phase might even lead to better gains.

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #261 on: April 10, 2017, 03:42:18 AM »
Ninja done got taste. Red as a tomato and dat suit needs ta tailad!

Where did he get his ninja-training?

Or are you using Ninja instead of Hebrew, Neegull,  Nukka,  Kneegrowth etc?
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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #262 on: April 10, 2017, 03:47:06 AM »
I saw dat back in da days when I wasn't a memba here. Ninjas be treatin' dat ninja, and Meadows too, like dey gods or some shit.

Can't front doe. Looks like deez ninjas be making dat chedda at da end of da day!

Why do you type like a neggar?

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #263 on: April 10, 2017, 03:50:17 AM »
Why do you type like a neggar?

Maybe he is one of the Don Dada-tribe?
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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #264 on: April 10, 2017, 05:14:19 AM »
This may come as a surprise to you, but you don't need to be muscular to conduct a meta-study.

As I said before, combining a DC with a volume phase might even lead to better gains.

Any of ya'll do the rinsed beef and olive oil thing?

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #265 on: April 10, 2017, 05:50:04 AM »
Any of ya'll do the rinsed beef and olive oil thing?

Was that a Dante recipe?

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #266 on: April 10, 2017, 08:15:13 AM »
Dat ninja dont even look like he lifts or a bodybuilder! Ninja looks like a DYEL'er! Ninja should stick to da studies and books!

I will say it took me twelve sets for chest every six days to bring dat shit up. I won a natty pro card doin da same shit every other BBer does. But I was curious about DC because I know this was da DC heyday back in da days!

You forgot to say ya feel me homie?

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #267 on: April 10, 2017, 12:10:59 PM »
You forgot to say ya feel me homie?

or "ya no i'm sayin, ma ninja?"

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #268 on: April 10, 2017, 03:47:13 PM »
You forgot to say ya feel me homie?

Ya know what I'm satin'? Are ya followin' me?

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #269 on: April 11, 2017, 02:07:41 PM »
I can smell him through the computer screen. Do they call it dog crap because of how he looks?

His back looks like it has more boils than the pits of hell...That's a lot of bunk dirty gear running thru those veins...



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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #270 on: April 11, 2017, 02:10:04 PM »
His back looks like it has more boils than the pits of hell...That's a lot of bunk dirty gear running thru those veins...




hes about 70lbs overweight.

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #271 on: April 11, 2017, 02:50:41 PM »
No one of any consequence has used it besides David Henry and he bastardized it.

Find what works best for you never anyone else..........especially a 300 pound fat guy.

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #272 on: April 11, 2017, 02:56:11 PM »
No one of any consequence has used it besides David Henry and he bastardized it.

Find what works best for you never anyone else..........especially a 300 pound fat guy.

That's what's up ma ninja!

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #273 on: April 12, 2017, 05:42:22 AM »
No one of any consequence has used it besides David Henry and he bastardized it.

Find what works best for you never anyone else..........especially a 300 pound fat guy.


Steve cuckhold and his mate that used to post on here( troponin) were big proponents...

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Re: Doggcrapp training
« Reply #274 on: April 13, 2017, 03:34:06 AM »
No one of any consequence has used it besides David Henry and he bastardized it.

Find what works best for you never anyone else..........especially a 300 pound fat guy.

Dusty Hanshaw used it, and then abandoned it. Actually it seems everyone who used it, shitcanned it later on.