I actually made sure I always took them together. Phillips had me believing. 
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I skimmed the Celltech label when ordering my baggie of creatine since it was also off. But now it only has 3 grams of creatine vs the 10 grams and I think way less carbs, too lazy to go check. The original had 75 grams of dextrose, the amount based on the glucose challenge test docs use to check for how you handle carbs (diabetes). Insulin will help uptake plus you get a carb load at the same time so you get even more weight gain/pumps. Milos for example will use the creatine with the insulin injections. Whether it's worth it in the end to try to get an insulin spike each time you take creatine can be debated but at least there's some basis for it, grape juice of course is shock full of dextrose. If someone does have a particularly high carb meal for example post workout it does make sense to take the daily creatine at that time. Bill's brother promoted a concoction for photoshoots: creatine, wine and glycerol mixed together

Someone said Milos' fave carb/sugar source is dates

Supposedly they IV the insulin around workouts preferably these days, but I don't think you can sustain that for long withhout messing up your veins in the arms.