15 Grams of Creatine Daily

[MCWAY]

I was putting 10 grams in each of my EAA shakes because it's so cheap now I wasn't expecting anything special, just added a baggie of it when buying bulk EAAs. Even if it "works" it's impossible to measure what it did, especially when taking EAAs and taking in lots of protein in general. Another amino Phillips hyped a bit was ornithine alpha ketoglutarate, based on some paper saying it was trialed in illness to boost anabolism. Aminos work, they obviously have biological functions, but how would you measure the effect? I'm taking taurine and acetylcysteine with glycine and acetylglutathione and some other aminos for antioxidant effects, which are proven, which I suspect might be good for me at the moment, but the effect is hard to gauge, it's just hope

Here's an example of a drug company selling a supplement with HMB to support wound healing etc.

https://www.juven.com/

I wouldn't say stuff like this is "proven" to actually work like advertised, even with a clinical study, more like there's indications it might be helpful 

I've used Juven before, when it was on clearance for $7 at a local store. It works well. But, it's more economical to buy its component ingredients: HMB, arginine, and glutamine. Plus, you can make it a bit stronger: 3 grams HMB, 5 grams arginine, and 10 grams glutamine vs. 1.5, 5, and 7 grams respectively as found in Juven.

[Marvin Martian]

I've used Juven before, when it was on clearance for $7 at a local store. It works well. But, it's more economical to buy its component ingredients: HMB, arginine, and glutamine. Plus, you can make it a bit stronger: 3 grams HMB, 5 grams arginine, and 10 grams glutamine vs. 1.5, 5, and 7 grams respectively as found in Juven.

Where do you buy your HMB - glutamine and arginine ?

[Van_Bilderass]

I've used Juven before, when it was on clearance for $7 at a local store. It works well. But, it's more economical to buy its component ingredients: HMB, arginine, and glutamine. Plus, you can make it a bit stronger: 3 grams HMB, 5 grams arginine, and 10 grams glutamine vs. 1.5, 5, and 7 grams respectively as found in Juven.

Yes little reason to buy brand name products nowadays when you can get all the components much more cheaply separately. Lots of brands use ineffective amounts in their products as well. The biggest bitch with supplements is the amount of fraud going on, a lot of times you don't know what you're getting.

[Humble Narcissist]

Phillips forgot to mention (unless you read his 1997 Supplement Review) that he was taking at least SIX GRAMS of HMB a day. His brand came in 250-mg capsules. So that's at least TWENTY-FOUR capsules a day, which means the big bottle (360 capsules) would last you a whopping TWO WEEKS!!

NFL Hall of Famer, Shannon Sharpe, used to endorse EAS supplements, right around the time the Broncos won those two Super Bowls. So, that really put EAS on the map

It really irritated the NFL that Sharpe and Romanowski wore EAS hats and shirts during interviews when they were not actually endorsed by the NFL.

[pamith]

Creatine just makes you hold water, that's it. You gain 10-15 lbs the first week (even though you are still eating the same amount of food as usual, daily)

[Phantom Spunker]

Creatine just makes you hold water, that's it. You gain 10-15 lbs the first week (even though you are still eating the same amount of food as usual, daily)

Didn't it also turn you gay for a bit? I remember something about an incident at GNC where you fucked a guy or something like that (srs). Might have just been fingers and kissing but you definitely did some shit for free samples.

[MCWAY]

Where do you buy your HMB - glutamine and arginine ?

Muscle & Strength, Piping Rock, or, when there are clearance sales, Vitamin Shoppe (in person, not online).

I used to hit Puritan's Pride. But, they suck now. All of their sports nutrition line (Myology) is gone.

Also, here in Orlando, there is a local grocery liquidation (aka "dented can") store that sells items that fall of the truck or are about to expire. That's where I first found Juven.

Creatine just makes you hold water, that's it. You gain 10-15 lbs the first week (even though you are still eating the same amount of food as usual, daily)

The water is in the muscle, as you definitely get a spike in strength.....at least, I did when I loaded with it back in '96.

Again, it was manna from heaven. No over-the-counter supplement, to that point, had ever hit like creatine. Twelve pounds in three weeks and more reps on the bar......It was UNREAL!!!

[pamith]

Didn't it also turn you gay for a bit? I remember something about an incident at GNC where you fucked a guy or something like that (srs). Might have just been fingers and kissing but you definitely did some shit for free samples.

Bro...

[Grape Ape]

Shut up pamith

[Van_Bilderass]

Creatine just makes you hold water, that's it. You gain 10-15 lbs the first week (even though you are still eating the same amount of food as usual, daily)

That's almost all steroids do for some folks.

Water in the muscle is generally a positive, what's the drawback, you get too muscular looking?

[Coach is Back!]

But Creatine “makes you feel young again” 😂

Q: Who believes this crap?

A: Beakdoctor

I would take if I could tolerate it.

[MCWAY]

Yes! That is right! I used it as a teenager. I remember the loading phase now. Shit, that was over 3 decades ago for me. But yeah, I tried as a teen. Don't remember feeling much but do remember the 'loading phase' can't recall the dosages. Haven't used it since unless it is an ingredient in a pre-workout but IIRC creatine was supposed to be taken every day whether you worked out or not and I don't need to take pre-workout 300 mgs of caffeine and DMHA and God knows what else on a day I'm not headed toward the gym.

Now that I think about it though. I think I purchased Kre-Alkalyn at the Arnold Classic expo. This was around the time Flex Wheeler got those shitty tattoos and was marketing himself as 'The Natural Freak' , as naive as I was - even then in my 30's- I was like WTF? There's no way on earth this guy expects us to believe he's natural. Anyway,  I digress, I got nothing from Kre-Alkalyn. So it's been awhile since I took it as a stand alone and my memory on the dosages is a little fuzzy. I thought 6 grams was the sweet spot.

You're a bit younger than I am. I was in my early 20s when I tried Phosphagen.

As stated earlier, creatine is like crack. The first time you load with it, it's DA BOMB!! But, by the late 2000s, folks were downplaying the need to load with creatine, except (of course) MuscleTech. Products like Kre-Alkalyn were supposed to negate the need for loading yet give similar results.

[Royalty]

Creatine made me younger. Way younger.

[beakdoctor]

Creatine made me younger. Way younger.

And dumber, way dumber.

It works better if you don't 'load' it up your ass, idiot.

[Royalty]

Creatine is the fountain of youth.

[1Patrick]

Regular monohydrate gives me bloats and brutal stomach discomfort .I’m using Kre Alkalyn .I def.do notice difference when on creatine 

[Royalty]

Regular monohydrate gives me bloats and brutal stomach discomfort .I’m using Kre Alkalyn .I def.do notice difference when on creatine

Nobody cares

[1Patrick]

Nobody cares I’m retard

I do care bro

[njflex]

Bulk supplements ,,,basic packaging no fluff and just ingredients on package.prices are great too.

[beakdoctor]

Creatine is the fountain of youth.

It's been marketed as potential for longevity.

No one said it was 'the fountain of youth'

But you've seized upon that reference like an autistic kid seizes on all the blue Legos.

Jesus christ you're pathetically stupid.

How long are you going to keep up with this? Is this your new 'small hands' fetish, or is it your new Paul Graham cum stain obsession,  or maybe it will replace your propensity for posting close ups of Arnold's penis? Will this unseat your latest Roseanne Barr craze. Is this the latest addition to your non-stop word salad that you've bombarded the board with for the past two years? Only time will what stupid-ass batshit crazy garbage comes out of the mind of royalty next.

[FitnessFrenzy]

[Rambone]

Anything under 15 grams is a waste. You’re barely tickling your creatine receptors at that point. You need to saturate them with a HOMEWRECKER dose!

[beakdoctor]

Creatine is the fountain of youth.

Creatine made me younger. Way younger.

A. Creatine 'helps' increase muscles mass. This should be agreed upon even by getbig skeptics.

B. Muscle mass is a key marker in longevity. This should be common knowledge by now.

Now, even the dumbest fucking member to ever grace the board with their remarkable stupidity *should* be able to apply A and B. Though it's very likely he can't.

Furthermore, as an extension of the work done by Matthews and colleagues 68, the Ferrante group 69 showed that lifespan was extended by 9.4, 17.7 and 4.4% when supplemented with 1, 2, or 3% creatine in the diet, respectively 69.Sep 15, 2014

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
A review of creatine supplementation in age-related diseases

This is one of the first results in searching online. There's dozens more.

Now, even a total fucking idiot should be able to see this and "get" it. But Royalty is a different breed of idiot.

Fortunately, there are an equal number of studies that show Creatine improves cognition. Wait!! What?! Say that again! Creatine improves cognition???

Holy shit! Jesus, Mary and Joseph! There's hope for Royalty yet! Praise the Lord and pass the Creatine to the blithering idiot. Royalty, though you wander God's green earth as a fool, you don't have to. God has provided you with all the nourishment you need to cure what ales you.

No need to thank me, asshole.

[1Patrick]

A. Creatine 'helps' increase muscles mass. This should be agreed upon even by getbig skeptics.

B. Muscle mass is a key marker in longevity. This should be common knowledge by now.

Now, even the dumbest fucking member to ever grace the board with their remarkable stupidity *should* be able to apply A and B. Though it's very likely he can't.

This is one of the first results in searching online. There's dozens more.

Now, even a total fucking idiot should be able to see this and "get" it. But Royalty is a different breed of idiot.

Fortunately, there are an equal number of studies that show Creatine improves cognition. Wait!! What?! Say that again! Creatine improves cognition???

Holy shit! Jesus, Mary and Joseph! There's hope for Royalty yet! Praise the Lord and pass the Creatine to the blithering idiot. Royalty, though you wander God's green earth as a fool, you don't have to. God has provided you with all the nourishment you need to cure what ales you.

No need to thank me, asshole.

That white powder Royalty is sniffing is not creatine.

[Van_Bilderass]

A. Creatine 'helps' increase muscles mass. This should be agreed upon even by getbig skeptics.

B. Muscle mass is a key marker in longevity. This should be common knowledge by now.

Now, even the dumbest fucking member to ever grace the board with their remarkable stupidity *should* be able to apply A and B. Though it's very likely he can't.

This is one of the first results in searching online. There's dozens more.

Now, even a total fucking idiot should be able to see this and "get" it. But Royalty is a different breed of idiot.

Fortunately, there are an equal number of studies that show Creatine improves cognition. Wait!! What?! Say that again! Creatine improves cognition???

Holy shit! Jesus, Mary and Joseph! There's hope for Royalty yet! Praise the Lord and pass the Creatine to the blithering idiot. Royalty, though you wander God's green earth as a fool, you don't have to. God has provided you with all the nourishment you need to cure what ales you.

No need to thank me, asshole.

On sites like reddit many users swear they notice cognitive effects from creatine, whether that is placebo is hard to say. I don't doubt at all that creatine is involved is involved in cognition but anecdotes are almost meaningless to most "scientists." I try to tell docs about certain sides or effects of drugs or even supps and they are often very skeptical and don't want to hear it, they only trust placebo controlled "gold standard" level studies
But those can't be trusted either, see how drug studies are later oftentimes thought lacking. They say science evolves all the time and data keeps piling up and the conclusions become more and more robust lol. This is sort of OT but I thought it noteworthy for example how in my lifetime opinions on antidepressant have shifted 180 degrees several times. First they worked, then 10 years later it was reevaluated and it appeared as though they didn't work any better than placebo, yet another 10 years later they obviously worked again. One head of a University hospital here laughed about it and said the science gets better and better with more datasets and you can trust it more and more as time goes on but maybe in another 10 years we have to steer the ship in another direction again 

A number of years ago a friend asked me if creatine would make him lose his hair. I hadn't kept up with the research but learned that creatine would increase DHT somewhat. I still said it's unlikely by my reading