The only way how to build real cannonball shoulders !!

[MAXX]

His Press behind neck was insane

Levrones pressing videos from the 90's/early 00's are great motivators still

[Donny]

Levrones pressing videos from the 90's/early 00's are great motivators still

yes one of my favourites

[joswift]

yes but cave man had to throw a spear to kill a Mammoth which involves upper pecs & shoulders.
I doubt very much cave man stood over a Mammoth thrusting downwards 

To kill mammoths in the Ice Age, people used planted pikes, not throwing spears, researchers say. UC Berkeley archeologists say the findings might help resolve the debate about Clovis points and reshape how we think about hunting some 13,000 years ago.

[Donny]

OK how did cave man paint in caves overhead & showing pictures of hunting the mammoth in groups as animals do trapping & throwing spears 

[joswift]

OK how did cave man paint in caves overhead & showing pictures of hunting the mammoth in groups as animals do trapping & throwing spears 

same way they drew spaceships with aliens climbing out

A fertile imagination...

[Donny]

same way they drew spaceships with aliens climbing out

A fertile imagination...

as was Doug´s upper pecs

[wes]

as was Doug´s upper pecs

[Krankenstein]

evolved from Apes....

Show me where they compared the muscle from the 'apes' back then to human of today.   I'll wait

[Krankenstein]

If doug Brignole was so correct why then was his chest weak in thickness especially in the upper regions all his life?

Maybe not enough pressing down to the waist

[Krankenstein]

we used to be on all fours

Do dogs lift things over their head?

Do dogs leg press?   Do they put a bar on their back and squat?  Do they don a thong for war in front of "adoring fans"

Geezus, your counterpoints are getting worse and worse

[IroNat]

evolved from Apes Aliens....

[Donny]

Do dogs leg press?   Doggy style is best 

 

[IroNat]

[joswift]

Do dogs leg press?   Do they put a bar on their back and squat?  Do they don a thong for war in front of "adoring fans"

Geezus, your counterpoints are getting worse and worse

no, they are not ego driven stupid twats like human beings

Why the fuck would any other animal do anything apart from hunt kill and eat...

Lifting weights is the stupidest thing anyone could do, and yes, I know I have done it most of my life

[Donny]

no, they are not ego driven stupid twats like human beings

Why the fuck would any other animal do anything apart from hunt kill and eat...

Lifting weights is the stupidest thing anyone could do, and yes, I know I have done it most of my life

Joe keep control of your feelings. 

[Irongrip400]

they work your delts way more than your pecs

Declines ,dips, cables are the only way to go for pecs

This may sound weird, I have a bad lower back and the motion of dips while I’m hanging will tweak it sometimes. It’s like a shock goes through, not that it leaves me fucked up afterwards like when I get jammed up squatting or hyperextensions.

[joswift]

This may sound weird, I have a bad lower back and the motion of dips while I’m hanging will tweak it sometimes. It’s like a shock goes through, not that it leaves me fucked up afterwards like when I get jammed up squatting or hyperextensions.

most low back spasams are caused by tension in the quads hams and glutes

Maybe its crossing your feet or tucking up your legs thats causing it

[Donny]

This may sound weird, I have a bad lower back and the motion of dips while I’m hanging will tweak it sometimes. It’s like a shock goes through, not that it leaves me fucked up afterwards like when I get jammed up squatting or hyperextensions.

do you have Lordosis ?

[falco]

His Press behind neck was insane

So was his Anadrol down the neck.

[Krankenstein]

no, they are not ego driven stupid twats like human beings

Why the fuck would any other animal do anything apart from hunt kill and eat...

Lifting weights is the stupidest thing anyone could do, and yes, I know I have done it most of my life

Yet you used them in an example to make your point.

Also, it would safe to say that what you eat is FAR from what the caveman did.  Not sure they had dat der cell tech back then

[Krankenstein]

most low back spasams are caused by tension in the quads hams and glutes

Maybe its crossing your feet or tucking up your legs thats causing it

Most low back "spasms" aren't spasms at all.

Ridiculous comment regardless.  Is this where you go on about how disc issues don't cause pain in the back?  Its like a patient I have that went to a provider who said the problem with her low back was due to her flat feet...and she should get orthotics.  Never mind the 9mm inferiorly EXTRUDED disc and associated severe foraminal stenosis.   Nawwww  just have her pay $300 for foot bullshit and let that myelopathy continue

[falco]

no, they are not ego driven stupid twats like human beings

Why the fuck would any other animal do anything apart from hunt kill and eat...

Lifting weights is the stupidest thing anyone could do, and yes, I know I have done it most of my life

Agree. At this point in my life, if i want to feel good, i have to skip weight training and stick to swimming.

[Krankenstein]

do you have Lordosis ?

You SHOULD have a lordosis in the lower back AND neck.  Its a kyphosis in the thoracic region.

45 - 55deg for lumbar region.

Multiple factors can contribute to the 'jamming up' with dips.  Now, if he is hyperextending with the concentric...even the dip belt causing focal pressure on the low back.  If someone were to have a grade 1 or 2 spondy....the weight belt pressure on dips may cause the vertebra to be pushed further forward

[Van_Bilderass]

Most low back "spasms" aren't spasms at all.

Ridiculous comment regardless.  Is this where you go on about how disc issues don't cause pain in the back?  Its like a patient I have that went to a provider who said the problem with her low back was due to her flat feet...and she should get orthotics.  Never mind the 9mm inferiorly EXTRUDED disc and associated severe foraminal stenosis.   Nawwww  just have her pay $300 for foot bullshit and let that myelopathy continue

Sorry to butt in, but I finally got results from an MRI regarding my upper back pain (complained about it at the docs like 18 months ago! Socialized medicine). "No disc herniation but possible issue with bone marrow, sent referral to orthopedist" (just text message, didn't speak to doc). It still hurts the same as when the pain first appeared. What does this mean with the bone marrow?

Kai Greene did dips for traps. Any reason to do dips for traps?

[Krankenstein]

Sorry to butt in, but I finally got results from an MRI regarding my upper back pain (complained about it at the docs like 18 months ago! Socialized medicine). "No disc herniation but possible issue with bone marrow, sent referral to orthopedist" (just text message, didn't speak to doc). It still hurts the same as when the pain first appeared. What does this mean with the bone marrow?

Kai Greene did dips for traps. Any reason to do dips for traps?

Disc issues in thoracic region are somewhat uncommon.  Facet arthrosis and endplate osteophytes are very common.

Is your doc talking about a hemangioma?  Otherwise certain infections can cause the reactive bone marrow signal on MRI