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Who did you have winning?

Nick Walker
8 (44.4%)
Derek Lunsford
10 (55.6%)

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2025, 09:54:50 PM »
Him winning the O was an insane accomplishment though, coming from the little guy class.

Hadi doing that a year earlier kinda made it a whatever moment for Lunsford

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2025, 10:04:24 AM »
God I hated the ancient fckrs in the 90’s always saying how the 90’s BB were garbage compared to the 80’s…. But these guys today look terrible. I absolutely respect that they pack a shit ton of muscle, but nobody can possibly look at a prime Dorian - Levrone - Coleman and say the guys today are better.
My wife is absolutely obsessed with training but never knew a thing about BB - we watch all of the shows now and she’s actually pretty damn accurate predicting (maybe not winner but she can always pick the top 3-5). But I showed her some of the prime Dorian pics and she was amazed. Never hearing me say a thing she said that today they look like inflated balloons. Will we ever see the dense grainy look Dorian had again?

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2025, 10:57:57 AM »
God I hated the ancient fckrs in the 90’s always saying how the 90’s BB were garbage compared to the 80’s…. But these guys today look terrible. I absolutely respect that they pack a shit ton of muscle, but nobody can possibly look at a prime Dorian - Levrone - Coleman

True. They aren't bigger either today. And the simple reason is there haven't been any real advancements in pharmacology in 30 years.

A fair criticism of Yates and Dorian was their guts. Particularly Coleman's. And the purists back then hated the direction these two took bb.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2025, 04:57:33 AM »
God I hated the ancient fckrs in the 90’s always saying how the 90’s BB were garbage compared to the 80’s…. But these guys today look terrible. I absolutely respect that they pack a shit ton of muscle, but nobody can possibly look at a prime Dorian - Levrone - Coleman and say the guys today are better.
My wife is absolutely obsessed with training but never knew a thing about BB - we watch all of the shows now and she’s actually pretty damn accurate predicting (maybe not winner but she can always pick the top 3-5). But I showed her some of the prime Dorian pics and she was amazed. Never hearing me say a thing she said that today they look like inflated balloons. Will we ever see the dense grainy look Dorian had again?

totally true, hell prime flex wheeler would smoke these guys

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2025, 05:36:59 AM »
They both fucking look like shit.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2025, 10:17:15 AM »
totally true, hell prime flex wheeler would smoke these guys

The purists thought even Flex went downhill after 93. He did fuck up a few bodyparts with Synthol, calves looked like shit.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2025, 10:24:10 AM »
The purists thought even Flex went downhill after 93. He did fuck up a few bodyparts with Synthol, calves looked like shit.

you are right 93 he looked incredible the perfect phyqique and only weight 225 i think

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2025, 06:51:27 AM »
you are right 93 he looked incredible the perfect phyqique and only weight 225 i think
flex was 215 in 93

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2025, 06:55:03 AM »
True. They aren't bigger either today. And the simple reason is there haven't been any real advancements in pharmacology in 30 years.

A fair criticism of Yates and Dorian was their guts. Particularly Coleman's. And the purists back then hated the direction these two took bb.
the difference today is 100% SEO abuse. Walker and lunsford abuse it. I believe Ruhl was the first and now these guys samson andrew jacked etc all abuse it. Check the back and hamstrings most of these guys lack both for an obvious reason. Andrew jacked is the worst standing relaxed he looks like a woman with fake tits. They ALL look like shit.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2025, 08:44:40 AM »
i honestly do not see why derrick is winning his shows i think he looks like a lump of shit myself. no detail his back is overated he has the iq and personality of a rock  as well.  claims to be a man of the lord and abuses more drugs than a crack whore i bet he cant even wipe his own ass either

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2025, 08:50:43 AM »
i honestly do not see why derrick is winning his shows i think he looks like a lump of shit myself. no detail his back is overated he has the iq and personality of a rock  as well.  claims to be a man of the lord and abuses more drugs than a crack whore i bet he cant even wipe his own ass either

This is normal behaviour for Mr Olympias and pro bodybuilding in general

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2025, 09:14:49 AM »
the difference today is 100% SEO abuse. Walker and lunsford abuse it. I believe Ruhl was the first and now these guys samson andrew jacked etc all abuse it. Check the back and hamstrings most of these guys lack both for an obvious reason. Andrew jacked is the worst standing relaxed he looks like a woman with fake tits. They ALL look like shit.

Yes it's standard now. Everyone put lots of it in the rear delts, if nothing else, most of the gear goes there. I think Flex was actually the first pro with Synthol, other pros like Shawn Ray thought Flex had gotten calf implants. Even Ronnie did plenty of site injecting, especially calves. Yates did use Esiclene but that's nothing in comparison.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2025, 09:50:44 AM »
Battle of the midgets


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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2025, 10:53:30 AM »
i honestly do not see why derrick is winning his shows i think he looks like a lump of shit myself. no detail his back is overated he has the iq and personality of a rock  as well.  claims to be a man of the lord and abuses more drugs than a crack whore i bet he cant even wipe his own ass either

When i was talking to Derek last night - He speaks highly of you  ;D

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2025, 11:51:49 AM »
Yes it's standard now. Everyone put lots of it in the rear delts, if nothing else, most of the gear goes there. I think Flex was actually the first pro with Synthol, other pros like Shawn Ray thought Flex had gotten calf implants. Even Ronnie did plenty of site injecting, especially calves. Yates did use Esiclene but that's nothing in comparison.

Actually manfred hoebrl was i think the first, greg valentino may have been second. Allegedly milos was putting it in his arms and got the attention of the rest of the ifbb. Now guys use it pecs shoulders arms traps lats quads. You would be nuts putting it in your calves. Good recipe to end up with a paralyzed leg. Too many nerves.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2025, 11:22:14 PM »
Actually manfred hoebrl was i think the first, greg valentino may have been second. Allegedly milos was putting it in his arms and got the attention of the rest of the ifbb. Now guys use it pecs shoulders arms traps lats quads. You would be nuts putting it in your calves. Good recipe to end up with a paralyzed leg. Too many nerves.

Yes,  Manfred, right. But I meant pro bodybuilders 8)

Milos actually stopped bodybuilding because of it, he had tissue necrosis, arms started to rot. Even back then he felt he had to do it because everyone else was doing it :D

For anyone who might care, I often argued that MCT oil, which Synthol is, shouldn't be harmful to health as people blamed it for kidney issues etc. But it was recently pointed out to me that constant inflammation from the shots can stress the  kidneys in the long run. Lots of gear nowadays is brewed with MCT, so it's not dangerous in small amounts 8)

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2025, 11:27:33 PM »

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2025, 12:43:36 PM »
When i was talking to Derek last night - He speaks highly of you  ;D

ha ha well that is nice to know ! team lunsford !

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2025, 11:53:52 PM »
Yes,  Manfred, right. But I meant pro bodybuilders 8)

Milos actually stopped bodybuilding because of it, he had tissue necrosis, arms started to rot. Even back then he felt he had to do it because everyone else was doing it :D

For anyone who might care, I often argued that MCT oil, which Synthol is, shouldn't be harmful to health as people blamed it for kidney issues etc. But it was recently pointed out to me that constant inflammation from the shots can stress the  kidneys in the long run. Lots of gear nowadays is brewed with MCT, so it's not dangerous in small amounts 8)

Small amounts may be fine but these guys now are pinning several ccs a day every day into as many myscles as they can afford. Imagine 20-30ccs a day if you add steroid use on top. Thats a tough job for your kidneys no doubt

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2025, 03:46:56 AM »
Both looked soft And both looked like dog shit

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2025, 06:02:01 AM »
Small amounts may be fine but these guys now are pinning several ccs a day every day into as many myscles as they can afford. Imagine 20-30ccs a day if you add steroid use on top. Thats a tough job for your kidneys no doubt

Yes. A common tactic year round is to put a couple of CCs into the muscles you train that day, particularly weak bodyparts, maybe not all parts. Interestingly an injection of MCT might be weakly anabolic, it activates the androgen receptor and the slight damage from the injection might activate other anabolic processes. Like how prolotherapy works. The way SEO works is mainly by building scar tissue. The body actually naturally builds collagen in parts you work daily, that's why meat from upper back of beef for example is more tender than legs and so on, less sinewy collagen. I don't now how bad the scar tissue from SEO is for muscle function and health but it probably may constrict blood flow and so on when it's too much, a guess.

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2025, 12:30:23 PM »

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Re: Nick Walker vs Derek Lunsford in Pittsburgh
« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2025, 02:20:36 PM »
i personally think derick and nick walker should hook up with callum vanmoger and make a gay porn called  "hard times"