Israel strikes Iran - 06-12-25

[LurkerNoMore]

Obsidian is a good dude.  I enjoy our chats on finance and AI subjects.  His political views need work though.       However, in this case he is not wrong.

You can't live by a Rules For Thee, None For Me attitude for so long and not expect it to catch up with you. 

[_bruce_]

Shalom, fellow non jews - what to do now?
Since, by pure coincidence, we're full to the brink of the same "natural" enemies shouldn't we join the brave fight and march to Jerusalem...

[Humble Narcissist]

Pakistan depends on international support for its conflicts with India. I don't think they'd involve themselves in a meaningful way.

China and Russia might give arms and intelligence, but I doubt they'd do more than that.

Pakistan does have nukes though so that's probably why they entered the conversation.

[Brenda Steunbeer]

This is pure gold!

The pieces of interior and the dust make that epic video complete hahaha

[obsidian]

You might laugh, but Pakistan possesses roughly 170 nuclear warheads and has conducted six nuclear tests. It shares a border with Iran, making logistical support—by land or air—a very real possibility. If Israel were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, Pakistan could supply Iran with nuclear weapons under the justification of collective self-defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

[OlympiaGym]

You might laugh, but Pakistan possesses roughly 170 nuclear warheads and has conducted six nuclear tests. It shares a border with Iran, making logistical support—by land or air—a very real possibility. If Israel were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, Pakistan could supply Iran with nuclear weapons under the justification of collective self-defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

Israel doesn’t need to use nukes. This will be settled shortly.

Iran’s only card is the Straight of Hormuz but if it messes with that it will become completely isolated and countries like China, who need Iran’s oil, will tell it to stand down or its current leadership will not be part of the picture going forward (assuming they’re still alive by the end of this week). The rational actors have no time for Iran’s nonsense.

[illuminati]

This is pure gold!

The pieces of interior and the dust make that epic video complete hahaha

Ha Ha Ha Allah just said FUCK YOU. 

[Van_Bilderass]

Israel doesn’t need to use nukes. This will be settled shortly.

Iran’s only card is the Straight of Hormuz but if it messes with that it will become completely isolated and countries like China, who need Iran’s oil, will tell it to stand down or its current leadership will not be part of the picture going forward (assuming they’re still alive by the end of this week). The rational actors have no time for Iran’s nonsense.

And Israel doesn't need the US either? In no way are they right now begging the US to enter the war in an offensive way? No way are the neocons in congress agitating for US interference like rabid dogs? Israel is probably completely calm and can sustain a war of attrition... no need for nukes... Israeli public is just as comfortable with being bombed and just as willing to sacrifice, as Iran. Israel is completely self sufficient, doesn't need outside help at all, the defensive Iron dome missiles will last a long time

“The ‘forever war’ is what Iran wants, and they’re bringing us to the brink of nuclear war. In fact, what Israel is doing is preventing this, bringing an end to this aggression,”

- Netanyahoo

I think Trump is being set up as the fall guy if he doesn't enter the war, thereby putting enormous pressure on him. Everyone has always predicted Israel will need the goyim to fight their future war with Iran. We'll see...

BTW, in one article above it says Iranians are celebrating and using Starlink that has been activated, now finally getting "freedom." It's ridiculous, Israel has a total media blackout, it's forbidden to film missile crash sites. Even with the Palestine issue, Israeli media has to clear all articles on it by censors. "Freedom" The fog of war is heavy all around, difficult to get accurate info.

[obsidian]

[LurkerNoMore]

You might laugh, but Pakistan possesses roughly 170 nuclear warheads and has conducted six nuclear tests. It shares a border with Iran, making logistical support—by land or air—a very real possibility. If Israel were to launch a nuclear strike on Iran, Pakistan could supply Iran with nuclear weapons under the justification of collective self-defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

This is true.  However, Pakistan will not do anything as it would just draw India into the conflict.  And THIS (Paki-Inida) is where WW3 will really start.  None of this Iran or China or NK bullshit.

[BigRo]

This is true.  However, Pakistan will not do anything as it would just draw India into the conflict.  And THIS (Paki-Inida) is where WW3 will really start.  None of this Iran or China or NK bullshit.

How do you know? Your a prophet?

[Van_Bilderass]

This is true.  However, Pakistan will not do anything as it would just draw India into the conflict.  And THIS (Paki-Inida) is where WW3 will really start.  None of this Iran or China or NK bullshit.

How do you know? Your a prophet?

Speaking of prophesy, both Jewish and American Evangelical Christian eschatology centers around a strong Israel, when Israel dominates the messianic age can come for the Jews, and Armageddon can commence for the Christians. It's prophesied. Wars for Israel and ethnic cleansing of Amalek is mandated by God. Jews may be atheist but still believe God gave them Israel. Therefore I fear wars like this with Iran can precipitate WWIII, when you believe God has sanctioned these actions dangerous things can happen. It sounds ridiculous but some on this forum say they support Israel due their Christian faith.

And you have this:

The Samson Option (Hebrew: ברירת שמשון, romanized: b'rerat shimshon) is Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has invaded and/or destroyed much of Israel.[1] Commentators also have employed the term to refer to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors have threatened conventional weapons retaliation.[2]

[Lartinos]

Trump says Tehran should evacuate. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/trump-urges-tehran-evacuation-iran-israel-conflict-enters-fifth-day-2025-06-17/

[Van_Bilderass]

Trump says Tehran should evacuate. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/trump-urges-tehran-evacuation-iran-israel-conflict-enters-fifth-day-2025-06-17/

Doesn't sound good at all to me.


Bannon says the Iran war, all the forever wars, are Deep State ideas. Ending forever wars is a central tenet of Trumpism. But what are we heading towards? Bannon thinks the coming 200 days are critical.

[loco]

“Israel has total superiority over Iranian air space. IDF planes can fly as freely over Tehran as they can over Tel Aviv. The ayatollahs have been unable to protect even the upper levels of their military command, which has been decimated almost at a stroke. This is unprecedented in the annals of warfare.

The same goes for some of the most important nuclear scientists who should have been among the most protected people in the country. Heavily guarded nuclear sites have been repeatedly struck, as has energy infrastructure. Substantial numbers of ballistic missiles and drones have been destroyed before they could be launched. Israeli special forces have been operating on the ground in Iran with impunity and the extent of intelligence penetration of the regime and its military seems breathtaking.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/khamenei-guards-militarily-defeated-rest-160201625.html

[LurkerNoMore]

How do you know? Your a prophet?

Yeah, something like that.

[Flexacon]

Markets aren't really panicking with what's going on. Inside chatter is that the walls are closing in for the current Iranian regime.

Israel, US and the Arab world are all aligned and are just waiting for the Irans supreme leader to surrender. Bombs may keep flying from both sides for a while though.

Russia and China won't be happy with Iran falling so that may need some smoothing over (it's probably happened already)

Guess who's winning again?

[Brenda Steunbeer]

Never forget

[Brenda Steunbeer]

“Israel has total superiority over Iranian air space. IDF planes can fly as freely over Tehran as they can over Tel Aviv. The ayatollahs have been unable to protect even the upper levels of their military command, which has been decimated almost at a stroke. This is unprecedented in the annals of warfare.

The same goes for some of the most important nuclear scientists who should have been among the most protected people in the country. Heavily guarded nuclear sites have been repeatedly struck, as has energy infrastructure. Substantial numbers of ballistic missiles and drones have been destroyed before they could be launched. Israeli special forces have been operating on the ground in Iran with impunity and the extent of intelligence penetration of the regime and its military seems breathtaking.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/khamenei-guards-militarily-defeated-rest-160201625.html

Israel = 22,000 km2 or 8,500 square miles of land
Iran = 1,650,000 km2 or 636,000 square miles of land

Israel = 10 million people
Iran = 86 million people

Staggering incompetence of the religious fundamentalist ayatollahs. They've had 45 years to prepare, and Israel humiliates them in 4 days.

[loco]

il Donaldo Trumpo
@PapiTrumpo
WHO DID THIS???😂😂😂

https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1933641292182896998

 

[Humble Narcissist]

Never forget

I went to school with a girl related to one of the hostages (uncle I think).

[OlympiaGym]

Doesn't sound good at all to me.


Bannon says the Iran war, all the forever wars, are Deep State ideas. Ending forever wars is a central tenet of Trumpism. But what are we heading towards? Bannon thinks the coming 200 days are critical.

They, and Bannon in particular, are fringe voices at this point.

The “Deep State,” if you want to call it that, was never going anywhere. Trump’s campaign rhetoric to end it was just that, rhetoric. 

[Irongrip400]

I read on BBC that Trump said “we have total control over Iran's skies”. Mimicking what Israel said but then adding that American weapons are superior to irans defense tech. I don’t like that kind of talk.

[Methyl m1ke]

Fuck iran
Fuck pakistan too
Anyone else here for the gangbang? Russia are you good? Theres plenty of room!

[Van_Bilderass]

Guess who's winning again?

Hate to say the obvious, but AGAIN?! When did America win a war the last time? Iraq and Afghanistan were hardly wins, they are national traumas. What are you referring to? Trump is between a rock and a hard place here, who thinks this will just be some bombing and then it's all over, the US can pivot to Asia?

They, and Bannon in particular, are fringe voices at this point.

The “Deep State,” if you want to call it that, was never going anywhere. Trump’s campaign rhetoric to end it was just that, rhetoric. 

Yeah, it wasn't going anywhere, you're probably right it was delusional to think that. I've said as much here for a long time. Other posters here said Trump has killed the Deep State, he's really doing it! "Fuck you, you love Biden!" If what you say is true it just means the so-called "MAGA base" is fringe, the "little guy" who Trump depended on for votes, ultimately doesn't matter. Trump has the same fucking neocons and Jews calling the shots now, almost everyone in his circle is actively working against his stated objectives, as Bannon says. I don't know if Bannon matters at all, I don't watch his podcast at all, but I've seen mentions in MSM that Bannon is hugely influential, the "base" listens to him. But it's the same base that is fringe. Not really having watched Bannon previously I was kind of impressed with this podcast. Tucker had the most watched show in the whole of US, did he not?

Trump keeping fucking Lindsey Graham around is absurd!

But I have a question, especially to the ones who support this Iran affair, if US goes on the offensive, should Trump put the question to congress before he does? Should Americans have a say?