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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #100 on: June 23, 2025, 05:01:31 AM »
Besides the old F-14 Tomcats the Iranians mainly use outdated Russian equipment, which is not near the level of the modern weapons produced in the US and Western Europe.

If they have no control or proper defence of the skies, repeated bombing of infrastructure such as power stations and water supply could set their country back generations.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #101 on: June 23, 2025, 05:11:08 AM »
Besides the old F-14 Tomcats the Iranians mainly use outdated Russian equipment, which is not near the level of the modern weapons produced in the US and Western Europe.

If they have no control or proper defence of the skies, repeated bombing of infrastructure such as power stations and water supply could set their country back generations.

Yes but Trump is apprehensive about doing that, like "now we are outta there, Iran MUST accept peace." He really doesn't want another forever war but may have no choice. Well, he made his bed.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
« Reply #102 on: June 23, 2025, 05:21:56 AM »
Here is my thing Coach. Is it like Iran has been chanting death to US and Israel and call them the big and little Satan, for no reason? They hate their "freedoms"? Are Iranians and the Muslims in general coming to bomb and overthrow governments and steal oil in the US and Israel or is it the other way around? How many innocent civilians have they  killed vs the other way around? Like I said, I'm not aware of any terrorist attacks by Iranians in the US? The empire has terrorized the middle east for how long? It's the height of hypocrisy, enough to make you vomit and dismiss anything Trump et al says. A character like Bin Laden directly said his reason for doing what he did is the US's involvement in the middle east. It's not about hating freeedom or any other BS reason. That's just for public consumption, for people who have no knowledge whatsoever. Like John McPhee said, "we are a bad friend." He loves bombs and killing Muslims but even he knows their reasons for fighting is valid. Do you disagree? Trump was just in Saudi Arabia and gave that speech about not wanting to go overseas to tell them how to live and overthrow their governments. Did you watch it? You should. If the US extricated itself from the middle east and put a leash on Israel the "terrorism" would stop. And stop importing the "enemy" into our countries too.

Now the US/Israel doesn't know where the nuclear material is, they don't know if they have secret facilities elsewhere. The Iranians claim Fordow was empty, and the fact that IAEA says there' no radiation detected supports that. I say the nuclear threat just got much worse, what do you think? Iran was ready for very tough inspections, you could say that was way imperfect a solution but how perfect is the situation now? Russia and China could also have come in with guarantees as both countries say they don't want Iran to have the bomb either and I believe them. Now Putin says they will put even more Russians into Bushehr, from 250 to 600, for their civilian nuclear reactor.

A gas mask is not enough if there's radiation :D Besides, there may be facilities elsewhere. And where is the nuclear material? It's been reported that many trucks were seen taking out something at Fordow. Could be anywhere, it's a BIG country :D

Trump's victory speech was an embarrassment. Like a 12 year old school kid wrote it. "God bless the Middle East!" "Thanks you God." :D

Who’s reporrting this? Why should those reports be more valid then the reports that say the bunkers were destroyed ?Who’s been monitoring trucks going in and out of the nuclear site?

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25
« Reply #103 on: June 23, 2025, 05:31:07 AM »
Who’s reporrting this? Why should those reports be more valid then the reports that say the bunkers were destroyed ?Who’s been monitoring trucks going in and out of the nuclear site?

Admittedly I didn't fact check it, there so MUCH info LOL, but the analyst, Alexander Mercouris, who said it had mentioned that satellite photos showed it, it was in the days leading up to the attack. Of course no one can know what was taken out. Even the US military says it's too early to assess the damage. The Iranians must have been really stupid if they left everything there when they knew this was coming, you gotta admit? Iranians claim, which they would of course even if false, that Fordow was empty. They also claimed damage at the entrances and little to no damage in the deep halls, but how would they know? One analyst I find interesting:

https://simplicius76.substack.com/

If you're the reading type it may be some nice reading. Waiting on his analysis. He may or may not be funded by the Kremlin, but the output, the volume, is amazing, can't be just one person :D

Simplicius says it's estimated Iran has 3000-28,000 ballistic missiles, and that they produce 300 themselves a month. They have burned through 500 so far. But if we go with 3000 inventory, he thinks Iran may start shooting an average of just 10 a day going forward because that's what they can produce without depleting existing stock. He thinks Russia will advice them today at the meeting to not attack US assets, and probably refrain from closing the Strait, just keep on attriting Israel. We'll see.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #104 on: June 23, 2025, 05:50:08 AM »
All this media and Leftist whining trying to come up with some way this isn't a win for USA and Trump.  More lies as usual like they've been doing for years for pants shitter Biden. 

All the quibbling doesn't matter, if they missed something they'll do it again.  The days of pussies are over for a generation now

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2025, 05:58:32 AM »
All this media and Leftist whining trying to come up with some way this isn't a win for USA and Trump.  More lies as usual like they've been doing for years for pants shitter Biden. 

All the quibbling doesn't matter, if they missed something they'll do it again.  The days of pussies are over for a generation now

It's said this bombing has been rehearsed with joint exercises like 2-3 times during the Biden admin. Of course you have to adapt it to the exact circumstances but this was a long time coming. A former CIA fella says Netanyahu has demanded several US Presidents bomb Iran, and the others said no and Trump finally did it. The fella says Israelis are hated in the CIA, while they are loved on Capitol Hill. Claims Obama and other Presidents hated Bibi and wouldn't even see him if he was in Washington but Bibi knew he owned Capitol Hill and was always received as a hero. Claimed Israelis were banned from CIA headquarters and they had a special location just for those meeting. The reason being Israelis always come with gifts and they always had listening devices put in the gifts :D

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Presidents are there for 4-8 years but the Deep State works on a longer time scale, CIA heads can be on their posts for decades. Trump only has 3 years left and whatever the Deep State works towards, if Trump goes against them, they can wait it out.

"They will just do it again"... the exact thing Trump is praying won't be necessary. But it will be necessary.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #106 on: June 23, 2025, 08:55:35 AM »
IMO worth reading the whole thing.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/shayrat-redux-trumps-invisible-fleet

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Iran Reinforced Fordow Nuclear Site Just Before U.S. Strikes!

Satellite images (June 19) show 16 dump trucks & earthmovers piling dirt near tunnel entrances of Iran’s Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, buried 90m underground. Signs of pre-emptive fortification before strikes.

Satellite imagery shows “unusual truck and vehicular activity” at the Fordow fuel enrichment facility two days before the strike, according to a senior analyst at the satellite firm Maxar. On June 19, there were 16 cargo trucks along the access road leading to the underground military complex. Imagery taken the next day shows that most of the trucks had moved about one kilometer northwest, farther from the facility.

Initial assumptions were that these were flatbeds hauling away the critical ‘enrichment materials’, but in fact that total relocation of the Fordow site had already taken place months ago, as Iranian figures like Mohsen Rezaee revealed. The above shows not flatbeds but dump trucks which appear to be filling Fordow’s tunnel entrances in order to fortify them against blast damage.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #107 on: June 23, 2025, 09:18:40 AM »
Who’s reporrting this? Why should those reports be more valid then the reports that say the bunkers were destroyed ?Who’s been monitoring trucks going in and out of the nuclear site?

If you see my posts Dave, I'm interested in your take, especially on the US officials' statements, Vance's etc.

He had no choice. This isn’t a war. We took out their nuclear facilities. So far the hit caused no injuries or deaths and there was no plan for regime change but I would imagine we might take out the ayatollah at some point

Are you still really confident about this Coach? What's you take on Trump's and Gaetz's posts? What do you think about the US officials saying they don't know if they took them out? Trump immediately claimed total obliteration. Israeli media quotes Israeli insiders saying the nuclear program cannot be destroyed even with another year of bombing with the Americans. Like Gaetz says, it's almost like this was always about regime change :D
I'm not a prophet or a genius but that's what I thought since Israel started their bombing. Destroy the regime and then plunge Iran into total chaos and bloodshed. Saying it's about freedom for the Iranians is extremely offensive. At least Bibi didn't say God bless the Middle East or Iran like Trump did  ::):D



"It's not about regime change!"

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Iran knew the exact epicenter the B-2s would have to converge on and yet was unable to even attempt to engage them? Could the scriptwriters have written a more schlockily improbable series of events? They could have at least added a few ‘glory moments’ of F-35s and F-22s shooting down a couple Iranian fighter craft for effect.

Recall that the US was having severe problems even operating just outside of Yemeni airspace, with not only F-35s nearly shot down, but two F-18s lost to panicked defensive maneuvers, as well as one other shot down by US air defense, and a fourth “nearly shot down” in the same operation.

So, Houthi air defenses can engage F-35s, but an entire sky swarming with B-2s, F-35s, F-22s, and other planes were not detected at all by Iran, whose IADS is likely dozens of times stronger than Yemen’s? Keep in mind the Pentagon spokesman also said the strike package included fourth generation craft that flew all the way to central Iran, which presumably refers to F-16s and F-15s—but for some bizarre reason Iran “never fired a shot”.

Sound suspicious to anyone else?

And after all these strikes, countless claims of Israeli “total aerial control”, there is still not a single video of a foreign craft over the skies of Iran. The B-2s were even seen flying back over New Jersey on their ‘heroe’s return’, yet no one in a nation of 90 million saw or heard anything on this most ‘mysterious’ of nights.

Something’s rotten in the state of HasbarAmerica.

So, yes, I’m convinced Iran decided to take US’ offer and allowed safe passage of the strike package to rain a few insignificant ‘token’ strikes on Fordow with the understanding that this was the US’ price for exiting the conflict.

Now, there are rumors that Israel may use the given ‘off-ramp’ as pretense to likewise conclude a new deal and end hostilities, given that Israel has exhausted itself and is now losing a war of attrition against Iran.


This is Trump’s way of alleviating neocon pressure—a sort of purity test for his Israeli handlers.

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Israeli paper Yedioth Ahronoth, citing Israeli officials: We will accept a ceasefire tomorrow if Khamenei announces that he wants one.


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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #108 on: June 23, 2025, 10:26:40 AM »
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #109 on: June 23, 2025, 10:30:35 AM »
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

Haha exactly. The nerve of some people. Bomb and say you are bringing peace, not war.

US bombs while demanding "negotiations." In the Ukraine-Russia war it's considered blasphemy to demand a negotiations before a ceasefire. The Russians are such barbarians and not serious.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #110 on: June 23, 2025, 10:33:07 AM »
America, FOOK YEAH, freedom is the only way, YEAH!!!




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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #111 on: June 23, 2025, 10:34:57 AM »
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

"Iran said its missile attack on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar matched the number of bombs dropped by the United States on Iranian nuclear sites this weekend, signaling Iran's likely desire to deescalate."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-launches-missiles-drones-israel-083917263.html


IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Please don't bomb me no mo"

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #112 on: June 23, 2025, 10:47:22 AM »



IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Don't bomb me no mo"

Are you saying they are pussies? Well, Iran didn't escalate in the first place. Seem Israel is also wanting to deescalate, after starting a war of aggression. Israel: "Oy Vey, please don't bomb us no mo, Khamenei, we're ready for a ceasefire"

Russia:

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Moscow’s partnership with Tehran is “unbreakable,” Russian’s deputy foreign minister said Monday, adding that Iran has the right to self-defense.

Iran “is acting within the framework of the implementation of the right to self-defense, this is an absolutely legitimate and correct presentation,” Sergei Ryabkov told reporters, Russian state news agency TASS reported.

“We interact with Iran in many areas,” the senior diplomat said, answering a question about whether Iran had requested military assistance from Russia.


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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #113 on: June 23, 2025, 10:57:44 AM »
Are you saying they are pussies? Well, Iran didn't escalate in the first place. Seem Israel is also wanting to deescalate, after starting a war of aggression. [

Damn VanB - never knew you were such a Muslim and leftwing sympathizer. i guess Sweden is officially lost now.


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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #114 on: June 23, 2025, 10:59:32 AM »
Iran “is acting within the framework of the implementation of the right to self-defense, this is an absolutely legitimate and correct presentation,” Sergei Ryabkov told reporters, Russian state news agency TASS reported.



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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #115 on: June 23, 2025, 11:03:36 AM »
Damn VanB - never knew you were such a Muslim and leftwing sympathizer. i guess Sweden is officially lost now.

I thought you were Jewish a long time ago. Correct? No offense intended, there are righteous Jews also.

If you would have read my ramblings you'd know I'm decidedly not a Muslim lover and specifically not an Irani lover :D And I'm not a leftwinger I don't think, I would be called a right wing extremist by most and a white supremacist. It's the leftwing Jews who have flooded my country with the damn Muslim scum >:( For whatever it's worth, these things may matter, I'm a Swedish citizen but ethnically a Finn. So not an Aryan Swede, not a slav either. Thankfully neighboring Finland isn't quite the hellish melting pot that Sweden is.

I've posted this a hundred times. Please take a look, just over a minute. A lovely "Swede." Awaiting you reaction :)



Edit. Misread BBCs post. Apologies BBC if you read my reply.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #116 on: June 23, 2025, 11:04:38 AM »
"Iran said its missile attack on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar matched the number of bombs dropped by the United States on Iranian nuclear sites this weekend, signaling Iran's likely desire to deescalate."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-launches-missiles-drones-israel-083917263.html


IRAN:  "We're even now, bro.  Don't bomb me no mo"

I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?


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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2025, 11:10:28 AM »
USA isnt at war with Iran just like japan wasnt at war with the US just a specific naval base!

Looks like Iran has bombed us air bases or attempted to from initial reports. Iran says they are just attacking air bases not the US, so dont retaliate!

A very fine analysis of the situation.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2025, 11:11:25 AM »
I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Well they see that Iran doesn't seek escalation but will defend itself. Some see this as a sign of weakness apparently. No matter what they do they will call Iran weak.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2025, 11:16:48 AM »
I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Yes. It was a face saving exercise for Iran. They even gave the US notice of their planned bombing.

Ball is now in Trumps court, but Iran will negotiate now. Posted this a couple of days ago.

Their primary objective (based on prophetical reasons) is to stay in power Iran. As long as they are not made to look weak or like cucks, they will take the negotiations/peace route

Markets are all green and oil is down, but doomers will keep dooming. Hilarious!

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #120 on: June 23, 2025, 11:24:32 AM »
Yes. It was a face saving exercise for Iran. They even gave the US notice of their planned bombing.

IOW Iranians are basically pussies and weak, just like the Russians, correct?

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #121 on: June 23, 2025, 11:32:12 AM »
Yes. It was a face saving exercise for Iran. They even gave the US notice of their planned bombing.

Ball is now in Trumps court, but Iran will negotiate now. Posted this a couple of days ago.

Markets are all green and oil is down, but doomers will keep dooming. Hilarious!
not very wise, trump agrees to the bombing and then lets one through killing US soldiers  so he can then carpet bomb the entire region

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #122 on: June 23, 2025, 11:32:32 AM »
Are you saying they are pussies?

I am in a bizzarro world. They retaliate and its taken as a sign of descalation?

Why oil is tumbling and stocks are rising after Iran launched missiles at US bases

“I think what you’re seeing in many ways is a symbolic attack by Iran,” Kirk Lippold, former commanding officer on the USS Cole, told CNN. “Ten missiles is not that much. Every one is dangerous, every one could kill or maim many Americans. But hopefully at this point we’re not going to see further responses by the Iranians.”

By comparison, Iran said it launched “hundreds” of missiles against locations across Israel on June 13 in response to Israeli strikes.

At the moment, all signs point to a limited response: Iranian officials gave Qatar advance notice that an attack was coming before launching missiles toward a US military base located there, according to a source familiar with the matter. The coordination was intended to minimize casualties and preserve an off ramp, the source said.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/23/investing/stock-market-dow-oil-iran


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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #123 on: June 23, 2025, 11:36:11 AM »
I am disappointed that Trump bombed them. But I don't know who else would be better in the white house. Maybe Rand Paul would have handled this better. I'm sure Bush/Hillary etc would have handled it worse.

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Re: USA attacks Iran with B-2 Bombers - 06-21-25 - Midnight Hammer
« Reply #124 on: June 23, 2025, 11:44:17 AM »
IOW Iranians are basically pussies and weak, just like the Russians, correct?
not very wise, trump agrees to the bombing and then lets one through killing US soldiers  so he can then carpet bomb the entire region

It has nothing to do with being pussies and none of this brinkmanship is wise. Pure political theatre

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