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Turkesterone still around?
« on: July 01, 2025, 07:18:18 AM »
The most delusional gullible industry is the fitness one but ...



Is Greg Douchette (sp?) still making $$$$$ selling that crap?

How come is not banned? not a single person has benefit from it other than Greg himself.


WOoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHH More fraudulent than last time

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2025, 07:53:07 AM »
LOL, "Turkesterone"

Remember "ecdysterone" it was some form of test booster made from insects? LOL.

Then there was Bulbine. Resveratrol was touted for a while as a test booster, derived from grapes. :D

The OG test booster was Tribulus. Then when it didn't work worth a shit it was 'well, you need to use tribulus terristeris, then it was Tribulus Altalus or some other bullshit...

Not to mention vanadyl sulfate and pyruvate. At some pointe there were articles claiming sarsparilla raised testosterone Last thing I heard being advertised as a test booster was Lemon Balm. Seriously.

There was also D Aspartic Acid the miracle that raised testosterone by 47% in the "Italian study"

Oh and Fenugreek, Tongcat Ali, and longjack, then supposedly it was Ashgwanda, then Garcina Cambogia...

You could take the highest quality,  "pharmaceutical grade" , highest possible dose of each and everyone of all these and you could take it everyday for months and you wouldn't see a difference.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2025, 12:03:57 PM »
Ecdysterone was actually studied in a WADA funded trial not that long ago and it showed dose dependent anabolic and strength boosting effects, so strong that WADA wants to ban it. It probably works through an estrogen receptor known to affect anabolism. Look at wiki for more. It's a plant steroid and may be insect-related but can still have biological effects.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/20-Hydroxyecdysone

If you have money to burn I would use this brand:

https://nootropicsdepot.com/beta-ecdysterone-20-hydroxyecdysone-50-tablets/?searchid=14492721&search_query=Ecdysterone

Turkesterone was the biggest scandal a while back because not a single one of the several dozen products contained any turkesterone. Nootropicsdepot I linked above did the analyses.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2025, 12:51:01 PM »
Ecdysterone was actually studied in a WADA funded trial not that long ago and it showed dose dependent anabolic and strength boosting effects, so strong that WADA wants to ban it. It probably works through an estrogen receptor known to affect anabolism. Look at wiki for more. It's a plant steroid and may be insect-related but can still have biological effects.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/20-Hydroxyecdysone

If you have money to burn I would use this brand:

https://nootropicsdepot.com/beta-ecdysterone-20-hydroxyecdysone-50-tablets/?searchid=14492721&search_query=Ecdysterone

Turkesterone was the biggest scandal a while back because not a single one of the several dozen products contained any turkesterone. Nootropicsdepot I linked above did the analyses.

Yes but WADA bans all kinds of supplements. For running and cycling events I think they have tested for caffeine levels in the past. WADA tests for Marijuana which I would argue does not enhance performance.

Pretty sure Errol Spence was baked for his fight versus Crawford. He certainly looked and sounded like it even before he got the snot knocked out of him.

I guess my point is: just because WADA bans it, doesn't mean it's effective.

That being said, I've never actually tried ecdysterone.  For all I know it may work wonders. About 20 years ago it was the new natural miracle test booster. But for whatever reason it didn't really seem to catch on.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2025, 01:11:07 PM »
I’ll stick to bee pollen, thank you very much

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2025, 01:12:10 PM »
As a kid and teen my parents gave me very little although they had some money. I would work hard and save just to buy some of these scams. They used to charge a ridiculous amount for Vanadyl Sulfate etc and that stuff is dirt cheap now.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2025, 01:18:45 PM »
Weider Anabolic mega packs and life essence were the staple bullshit of my starting days. That was my Christmas at 16, remember checking my progress a month later lol.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2025, 01:41:08 PM »
Douchette still sells it, and I think the More Plates guy too. Douchette was getting his ass kicked in a few weeks ago for signing one of the most unnatural fake natties around claiming it was "Turk Builder" that helped him.

Always hated the dose dependent hustle, it almost never works out well for normal people price and lifewise. In the end, just buy real drugs. That way your Deca will really feel like Deca.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2025, 05:55:06 PM »
I’d only try it if my Bulgarian source runs out of tribulus

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2025, 10:03:31 PM »
Yes but WADA bans all kinds of supplements. For running and cycling events I think they have tested for caffeine levels in the past. WADA tests for Marijuana which I would argue does not enhance performance.

Pretty sure Errol Spence was baked for his fight versus Crawford. He certainly looked and sounded like it even before he got the snot knocked out of him.

I guess my point is: just because WADA bans it, doesn't mean it's effective.

That being said, I've never actually tried ecdysterone.  For all I know it may work wonders. About 20 years ago it was the new natural miracle test booster. But for whatever reason it didn't really seem to catch on.

Here's something to consider. Just because something is a drug and many athletes use it doesn't mean it actually works as assumed. And conversely, just because something is "natural" or legal or not banned doesn't mean it doesn't work. Most of the drugs on the banned list either don't work or aren't very effective. And there are a bunch of drugs not on the banned list that do work to increase athletic performance. They may not be banable for political, societal, public health, or other reasons. Compared to many banned doping drugs creatine works absolutely massively. Every compound has to be evaluated separately.

Is ecdysterone worth taking? Almost impossible to say. I couldn't say it does absolutely nothing. The Russians did a ton of research on herbs like Leuzea Carthmoides, which is rich in ecdysterone and other plant steroids and they used them in athletes. For example they claimed they could extend the anabolic effects of steroids coming into an event and coming off for testing purposes. Russian pharmacies sell these supplements for active people, but then again they sell a lot of stuff that's probably ineffective, and that's including drugs. Lots of drugs in the US PDR are ineffective.

Even the much joked about HMB does have biological effects that may be useful in some contexts. Like disuse muscle loss.

Douchette still sells it, and I think the More Plates guy too. Douchette was getting his ass kicked in a few weeks ago for signing one of the most unnatural fake natties around claiming it was "Turk Builder" that helped him.

Always hated the dose dependent hustle, it almost never works out well for normal people price and lifewise. In the end, just buy real drugs. That way your Deca will really feel like Deca.

The turkesterone saga was eye opening to me. Not because turkesterone itself is terribly interesting but because almost every supplement company thought they were buying real ajuga turkestanica herb from China, turns out it was all fake lol. They relied on some faulty testing methodology. No one obviously offered refunds and many still keep selling it. If you can't even get a herbal supplement right then that's sad.

This Russian product might be real :D :D :D

https://cosmicnootropic.com/products/turkesterone/

That Ukrainian store which has US domestic shipping is fantastic, soo many Russian and Ukrainian drugs I'd love to try LOL. Several dozen, like a Meldonium/Mexidol combo inject:
https://cosmicnootropic.com/products/brainmax/  :P But shipping and customs clearance to me would be a bitch.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2025, 12:52:15 AM »
Weider Anabolic mega packs and life essence were the staple bullshit of my starting days. That was my Christmas at 16, remember checking my progress a month later lol.
Animal Pak from Universal was mine. Swallowing those massive pills was a workout itself.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2025, 02:57:25 AM »
Steak and eggs!!   ;)

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2025, 03:55:28 AM »
I remember the androstenedione from GNC when I was about 20, you chewed it and let it dissolve under your tongue. It may have worked. I had a few roommates in college that took methyl 1 test and that shit worked just like dbol.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2025, 03:59:18 AM »
Steak and eggs!!   ;)

Milk trumps those

It contains carbs and has more vitamins and minerals

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2025, 04:08:55 AM »
Milk trumps those

It contains carbs and has more vitamins and minerals
Yeah OK !
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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2025, 06:06:39 AM »
Reading every single comment, I can see why Turkesterone won't be banned or at least 
forced to put on their label it wont work" ;D




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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2025, 06:11:16 AM »
I saw in an old muscle mag a product called MuscleMix that actually came in a vial shaped bottle.  You put it under your tongue.  It was probably one of the original OGs of snake oil supps back then.

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Re: Turkesterone still around?
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2025, 06:26:56 AM »
I remember the androstenedione from GNC when I was about 20, you chewed it and let it dissolve under your tongue. It may have worked. I had a few roommates in college that took methyl 1 test and that shit worked just like dbol.

Ha! Yeah I remember when that was available over the counter. M1T,  T-Bomb etc...

My buddy always worked out with me. I was always in better shape, more muscular, less fat and stronger. One summer, he started to catch up to me. Getting stronger and bigger everyday.  Calling me up wanting to go to the gym all the time. I'm working my ass off trying to stay ahead of him. Everyday he's getting bigger and stronger and I'm getting burnt out, sore, overtrained. I'm like wtf is going on here? Finally he surpasses me. He's still getting bigger and stronger and is always up for going to the gym. I'm falling far behind him in strength and now I'm getting muscle strains, sore joints, no motivation etc...

Finally I ask Dude what the fuck? "Oh, nothing, I started taking this ..." WTF is this?   Oh, its from GNC.. lol....