You've mentioned that at one stage Tren was technically considered a SARM?
Good memory!

This also adresses the lower androgenicity of tren compared to test. Often when talking about doping substances the term used is 'testosterone & anabolic steroids.' The whole idea with 'anabolic' steroids was to reduce the undesirable androgenic effects while maximizing the desirable anabolic effects.
17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone) exhibits tissue selective anabolic activity: effects on muscle, bone, adiposity, hemoglobin, and prostateF Yarrow et al. Am J Abstract
Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) now under development can protect against muscle and bone loss without causing prostate growth or polycythemia. 17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone), a potent testosterone analog, may have SARM-like actions because, unlike testosterone, trenbolone does not undergo tissue-specific 5α-reduction to form more potent androgens. We tested the hypothesis that trenbolone-enanthate (TREN) might prevent orchiectomy-induced losses in muscle and bone and visceral fat accumulation without increasing prostate mass or resulting in adverse hemoglobin elevations. Male F344 rats aged 3 mo underwent orchiectomy or remained intact and were administered graded doses of TREN, supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate, or vehicle for 29 days. In both intact and orchiectomized animals, all TREN doses and supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate augmented androgen-sensitive levator ani/bulbocavernosus muscle mass by 35-40% above shams (P ≤ 0.001) and produced a dose-dependent partial protection against orchiectomy-induced total and trabecular bone mineral density losses (P < 0.05) and visceral fat accumulation (P < 0.05). The lowest doses of TREN successfully maintained prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations at sham levels in both intact and orchiectomized animals, whereas supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate and high-dose TREN elevated prostate mass by 84 and 68%, respectively (P < 0.01). In summary, low-dose administration of the non-5α-reducible androgen TREN maintains prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations near the level of shams while producing potent myotrophic actions in skeletal muscle and partial protection against orchiectomy-induced bone loss and visceral fat accumulation. Our findings indicate that TREN has advantages over supraphysiological testosterone and supports the need for future preclinical studies examining the viability of TREN as an option for androgen replacementPhysiol Endocrinol Metab. 2011 Apr.
Yes I know that but I mean drugs that are less androgenic
Dbol, drol, halo, tren, mast, cheque drops and methyl tren are all highly androgenic so not for me
Test is
the androgen.
Dbol was
the anabolic.
Mast is relatively low androgenic, if memory serves it was given to some females with cancer at 1800mg a week! I assume you're worried of negative psychotropic effects from "androgenicity. " How do you explain the lack of any "aggression" from Halo?
You could build most of your potential strength just using baseline test + Deca + Anavar. It is a bit disappointing you gave up on 'strength' due to a couple of bad workouts, though not surprising at all unfortunately. You said your weight to strength ratio was world class and you were a 'bench pess specialist' but now your strength genetics suck ass

I wonder if I was approaching 10% as a result of my illness, stomach might have been "10% level" LOL. It's a mircale considering I'm at 20+ 'naturally'
