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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2025, 11:55:32 AM »
So you’re saying only doctors are qualified and no one else can come to conclusions. Am I understanding you correctly?

When it comes to medicine? yes of course. That's the whole point of education. I also think that applies to physics, the law etc. others can certainly have opinions and even good ones but without proper vetting and training you end up with terrence howard who thinks 1x1 doesn't equal 1. Claims can be verified and those with degrees of that nature are considered experts.

I think the word qualified is key here. It implies expertise to my mind

Do I think its possible for a laymen or independent scholar to come to conclusions that are sound, yes? would I trust them, most likely not unless they have shown comprehension. This is the issue with him on medicine, health, he has not shown comprehension across the board as someone who studied the subject.

For example, I can learn how to bench press and probably pour over it in great detail, learn the anatomy, biomechanics and perhaps metabolic adaptations of hypertrophy, both sarcoplasmic and myofibrillar yet without knowing the bigger picture, how it relates to everything else on the body I will likely miss numerous things and cannot be considered an expert on biomechanics (since the body works via tensegrity anyhow).

If we just throw out proper qualifications, ones we all agree are required to be an expert, whats the point?

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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2025, 12:02:25 PM »
Supposedly the healthiest meal is white fish with fresh cooked spinach, dark berries of some kind and either oats or potatoes

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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2025, 12:03:57 PM »
Supposedly the healthiest meal is white fish with fresh cooked spinach, dark berries of some kind and either oats or potatoes

If you add 2 caps of GAKIC to that you would be correct.

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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2025, 12:40:12 PM »
If you add 2 caps of GAKIC to that you would be correct.

What's that?

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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2025, 12:43:00 PM »
What's that?

its a product by muscletech that stops myostatin in its tracks! its what jay cutler used to become mister olympia!!

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2025, 12:47:26 PM »
its a product by muscletech that stops myostatin in its tracks! its what jay cutler used to become mister olympia!!

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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2025, 02:32:05 PM »
When it comes to medicine? yes of course. That's the whole point of education. I also think that applies to physics, the law etc. others can certainly have opinions and even good ones but without proper vetting and training you end up with terrence howard who thinks 1x1 doesn't equal 1. Claims can be verified and those with degrees of that nature are considered experts.

I think the word qualified is key here. It implies expertise to my mind

Do I think its possible for a laymen or independent scholar to come to conclusions that are sound, yes? would I trust them, most likely not unless they have shown comprehension. This is the issue with him on medicine, health, he has not shown comprehension across the board as someone who studied the subject.

For example, I can learn how to bench press and probably pour over it in great detail, learn the anatomy, biomechanics and perhaps metabolic adaptations of hypertrophy, both sarcoplasmic and myofibrillar yet without knowing the bigger picture, how it relates to everything else on the body I will likely miss numerous things and cannot be considered an expert on biomechanics (since the body works via tensegrity anyhow).

If we just throw out proper qualifications, ones we all agree are required to be an expert, whats the point?

The highlighted. In what way? Just about his entire law background and litigation for the past 40 or so years was basically in that field environmental health. As far as vetting, based on the outcome of the last administration, especially DHS, there was little vetting and complete DEI appointment. Their vetting was basically, have a degree, be trans with no recent criminal background and adhear to the their agenda. Not kidding.

Wife's cousin was In charge of two Presidential transition teams. Vetting is rigorous (or should be)and takes months or you don't make it. Don't think for one second that this was the case for RFK simply because he is a Kennedy and a Democrat (former)

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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2025, 03:05:13 PM »
The highlighted. In what way? Just about his entire law background and litigation for the past 40 or so years was basically in that field environmental health. As far as vetting, based on the outcome of the last administration, especially DHS, there was little vetting and complete DEI appointment. Their vetting was basically, have a degree, be trans with no recent criminal background and adhear to the their agenda. Not kidding.

Wife's cousin was In charge of two Presidential transition teams. Vetting is rigorous (or should be)and takes months or you don't make it. Don't think for one second that this was the case for RFK simply because he is a Kennedy and a Democrat (former)



he has also repeatedly misquoted statistics from studies, orders of magnitude. He says things like beef tallow is healthy when there is little evidence to suggest that over say avocado oil. I posted a video above going through his claims and another just now.

He is trained as a lawyer, not doctor or health expert. In trials you call in experts in those fields, no one is going to listen to a lawyer who says trust me bro, I read this stuff. I am sure he did the same in all his cases. So while the word health might be involved here in his legal disputes, he would be expert in environmental health law, not environmental health, huge difference.

He keeps saying vaccines cause autism or has- yet every well reputed study, both in the US and outside with millions of kids show no connection. He was big on thimerosal being the cause (simply because he only knows mercury) yet when thimerosal was removed from vaccines no change in the rates of autism were noted. He has said vaccines have have toxins- he clearly doesn't understand the term, they could not. He has claimed they have fetal debris, they do not.

Now, I agree with him on the psychedelics, nutrition etc.. but I would bet he doesnt know how they work.







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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2025, 03:21:03 PM »
He has also claimed that HIV doesn't cause aids, that germ theory is incorrect and its do to miasmas and toxins from terrain theory. Its retarded!

The MAHA report had numerous citations that simply didn't exist, no credible doctor would ever do such a thing, its embarrassing. It wasn't formatting errors, they provided the citation, authors, title and quoted from the study that did not exist.

the brain drain that is occurring in the states is shocking. RFK wants to ban most journals and instead force those to use his journal lolol

Sad dystopian shit.






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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2025, 03:24:32 PM »
What's his cycle?

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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2025, 03:26:21 PM »
What's his cycle?

two gallons of raw milk emulsified in beef tallow and fresh air along with two shots of vocal cord grease. Pre-workout he relies on the strength of his lord and saviour jesus christ.

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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2025, 03:42:36 PM »
two gallons of raw milk emulsified in beef tallow and fresh air along with two shots of vocal cord grease. Pre-workout he relies on the strength of his lord and saviour jesus christ.

He does seem like quite the dickhead

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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2025, 04:28:00 PM »
Human origins or the origin of life? abiogenesis is a disputed topic but there are plenty of ideas that have been shown to work in actually biological systems. I do think the idea of life is problematic as is the idea of cognitive. Certain materials exhibit intelligent behaviour, tripaldi wrote a book called parallel minds which dives into this idea quite clearly and lucidly. We know that things like auto-catalytic sets, autopoetic systems and dissipative structures (systems far from equilibrium, like us) show order and organization that is self-propelled (self-organizing). Molecules show this behaviour. Chance and stochasticity is inherent in the system (we know this from chaos theory) and we know from complexity theory that local interactions lead to complex behaviour that is not co-ordinated except for simple local rules-- think of birds mumuring birds- each one follows simple rules based off the interactions adjacent or immediate to them and this forms complex patterns, simple cells do this to form complex organs etc.

I am not super up on evolution in terms of the newest stuff but it is very well established and makes a lot of predictions. Technically its a theory which is simply an explanation of facts, the fact that we have different species in explained by mutation and natural selection and the above concepts.

i think the idea that is missed in that article, which has been proven, is evolution is absolutely blind and requires chance/randomness.  For example they have done studies with bacterial lines in which the exact same local environments are set up (so that whatever occurs is inherent to the bacteria) and the lines all evolve differently, one even learned to eat the medium (citrate) that the others could not. It was random mutation and chance. So evolution is non-teleological- we didnt have to evolve and this explains why some creatures are poorly adapted, it didnt have to happen and once you add in context and environment (the idea of ecology) its impossible to predict.

I am not sure if that answers your question in any way lolol but I think stuart kaufmann is right with respect to abiogenesis and auto-catalytic sets were the cause.

I do think philosophically deleuzes idea of virtuality and difference helps understand this stuff more clearly, there is no outside force (transcendent) that guides things along or was needed, its all immanent and the possibilities of life exceed the actualities we see, things self-organize or are autopoetic and recursive.

Thanks. I know too little science to even have a vague opinion on what you said her lol. One idea that has been floated, perhaps by total morons, is that human life or a predecessor arrived from outer space ??? :D Hell, many think our "reality" is just an illusion :D

Regarding this other wider discussion on who is an expert on health or whatever, my first post on the bodybuilding forums was "who are the experts?" because I wanted to read the most well regarded ones first to get some type of overview. There have been discussions here on who or what to believe on for example subjects like Covid and vaccines. I was saying that it's sort of ridiculous when a total layman has very strong opinions on this stuff, never having studied it or without even having any science related education. I have zero education on anything myself but more educated ones here said it's absolutely moronic to believe in "experts" or "studies" and folks can easily determine Covid and the vaxx was fake and so on. I remember asking MajorDomo on how to know what info to believe but I got none the wiser (not an attack on you Major, just honestly curious about all this). Of course I have my own views on Covid and am critical of how it was handled by TPTB, but at the same time I thought absolute morons had some very strong unfounded opinions too... nanorobots, killing most of the world on purpose and so on. I personally enjoy the conspiracy theory that the virus was US made, which has been advanced by Ron Unz. Suspicion is one thing but being sure is another.


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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2025, 04:37:41 PM »
Supposedly the healthiest meal is white fish with fresh cooked spinach, dark berries of some kind and either oats or potatoes

I've been eating a lot of leafy greens lately, spinach and aragula leaves (I think that's the US word for what we call ruccola).

Some call oats a nature's junk food. I'm not saying it, "they" are. Oats do hinder some vitamin and mineral absorption for example. Love potatoes.

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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2025, 04:51:18 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2025, 05:53:19 PM »
I’m sure switching from corn syrup to cane sugar and seed oils to tallow will make these fat excessive calorie consuming Americans slim down nicely…….

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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2025, 06:17:57 PM »


he has also repeatedly misquoted statistics from studies, orders of magnitude. He says things like beef tallow is healthy when there is little evidence to suggest that over say avocado oil. I posted a video above going through his claims and another just now.

He is trained as a lawyer, not doctor or health expert. In trials you call in experts in those fields, no one is going to listen to a lawyer who says trust me bro, I read this stuff. I am sure he did the same in all his cases. So while the word health might be involved here in his legal disputes, he would be expert in environmental health law, not environmental health, huge difference.

He keeps saying vaccines cause autism or has- yet every well reputed study, both in the US and outside with millions of kids show no connection. He was big on thimerosal being the cause (simply because he only knows mercury) yet when thimerosal was removed from vaccines no change in the rates of autism were noted. He has said vaccines have have toxins- he clearly doesn't understand the term, they could not. He has claimed they have fetal debris, they do not.

Now, I agree with him on the psychedelics, nutrition etc.. but I would bet he doesnt know how they work.

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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2025, 08:38:26 PM »
I've been eating a lot of leafy greens lately, spinach and aragula leaves (I think that's the US word for what we call ruccola).

Some call oats a nature's junk food. I'm not saying it, "they" are. Oats do hinder some vitamin and mineral absorption for example. Love potatoes.

Potatoes do a great job of making ya feel.full

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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2025, 05:19:49 AM »
I’m sure switching from corn syrup to cane sugar and seed oils to tallow will make these fat excessive calorie consuming Americans slim down nicely…….

Seed oils cause inflammation in the arteries which results in atherosclerosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis

A high carb diet (typical Western diet) causes high insulin production which makes the body store fat and and ultimately results in a failing pancreas and diabetes.
This fat storage mechanism was a useful survival process in primitive times of food scarcity but in modern society where food is plentiful just makes people fat.

This is why the very low/no carb diet (Gironda meat and eggs) burns fat and gets you ripped.

You don't have to go that extreme but you should greatly reduce carb consumption from the 300-400 grams a day Western Diet.

Your daily carb intake should be below 100 grams. 

Processed foods in the U.S. just about always contain both seed oils and lots of carbs. 

"Metabolic syndrome is a clustering of at least three of the following five medical conditions: abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high serum triglycerides, and low serum high-density lipoprotein. Metabolic syndrome is associated with the risk of developing cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes."


Typical Western Diet that results in Metabolic Syndrome.




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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2025, 06:21:38 AM »
Seed oils cause inflammation in the arteries which results in atherosclerosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis

A high carb diet (typical Western diet) causes high insulin production which makes the body store fat and and ultimately results in a failing pancreas and diabetes.
This fat storage mechanism was a useful survival process in primitive times of food scarcity but in modern society where food is plentiful just makes people fat.

This is why the very low/no carb diet (Gironda meat and eggs) burns fat and gets you ripped.

You don't have to go that extreme but you should greatly reduce carb consumption from the 300-400 grams a day Western Diet.

Your daily carb intake should be below 100 grams. 

Processed foods in the U.S. just about always contain both seed oils and lots of carbs. 

Typical Western Diet that results in Metabolic Syndrome.

"Metabolic syndrome is a clustering of at least three of the following five medical conditions: abdominal obesity, high blood pressure, high blood sugar, high serum triglycerides, and low serum high-density lipoprotein. Metabolic syndrome is associated with the risk of developing cardiovascular disease and type 2 diabetes."



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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2025, 06:42:33 AM »
Hopefully someone kills him very soon

Good riddance shitstainn

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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2025, 07:03:19 AM »
I would ask taht you please refrain from giving out any nutrition advice except on the nutrition board. There I can monitor and cull you as I see fit. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2025, 07:31:34 AM »
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« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2025, 09:02:36 AM »
No shit

What a pussy

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You're fat.