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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #75 on: Today at 10:11:16 AM »
No type 2 diabetes.  My fasting glucose, fasting insulin, A1C, and HOMA-IR are all normal to optimal.

Why are you doing carnivore?

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« Reply #76 on: Today at 10:43:44 AM »
Why are you doing carnivore?

I started to help prevent or delay dementia, which runs in my family.  I've stuck with it consistently for 6 years because of the multitude of health benefits I've discovered and enjoyed while eating this way, and because it's freaking delicious.  I love it.

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #77 on: Today at 10:46:59 AM »
I have one shot as I had to for work.

I understand.

Rookie numbers...  ;D

what about you, slick… what are your numbers looking like?

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #78 on: Today at 10:50:17 AM »
I started to help prevent or delay dementia, which runs in my family.  I've stuck with it consistently for 6 years because of the multitude of health benefits I've discovered and enjoyed while eating this way, and because it's freaking delicious.  I love it.

are you a lean mass hyperresponder?

what is your LDL like?

I am thinking about doing it as I love the way I feel on keto.

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #79 on: Today at 01:03:46 PM »
are you a lean mass hyperresponder?

I don't believe my LDL is high enough or my Triglycerides low enough to qualify, but as I get leaner my numbers may change to the point I will be considered a lean mass hyper-responder.

what is your LDL like?

My LDL did go up after I started keto/carnivore. It was 181 mg/dL when I checked last year.  It fluctuates up and down by about 10 mg/dL every time I check it.  I believe most lean mass hyper-responders have LDL levels greater than 200 mg/dL.

My Triglycerides dropped down to 64 mg/dL.  My HDL increased to 56 mg/dL.  I reversed hypertension after fighting it for decades.  I lost 34 lbs of excess body fat.  So my overall heart health actually improved despite my increased LDL.

After 5 years of consistent exposure to high LDL levels, I finally did a Coronary Artery Calcium (CAC) test and my score is zero.

After entering my numbers into the American College of Cardiology ASCVD Risk Estimator below, my risk of developing Atherosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease in the next 10 years is less than 4% despite my high LDL.
https://tools.acc.org/ascvd-risk-estimator-plus/#!/calculate/estimate/

My increased LDL is most likely an increase in the proportion of larger, less harmful LDL particles while decreasing the proportion of smaller, dense LDL particles, which are more strongly linked to heart disease.  This is very commonly seen in people who have an increased LDL induced by a keto/carnivore diet.  One of these days I'm going to pay out-of-pocket for a LDL particle size test just to satisfy my curiosity.

I am thinking about doing it as I love the way I feel on keto.

Go for it, only way to find out whether it works for you.

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #80 on: Today at 01:11:24 PM »
Here's my labs before and after doing keto/carnivore/low carb.
No bloodwork in 2020.
Lost 25 lbs since starting low carb/carnivore.  I cheat on the weekends.
I seem to be a lean mass hyper-responder from what I've read about it.
67 years old now.
I chart it out like this for reference.


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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #81 on: Today at 01:20:14 PM »
Here's my labs before and after doing keto/carnivore/low carb.
No bloodwork in 2020.
Fasting glucose was 88 last time.
I seem to be a lean mass hyper-responder from what I've read about it.
67 years old now.
I chart it out like this for reference.

Impressive!  I wish I had done more blood work before keto/carnivore and tracked it like you have.

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #82 on: Today at 01:59:35 PM »
Here's my labs before and after doing keto/carnivore/low carb.
No bloodwork in 2020.
Fasting glucose was 88 last time.
Lost 25 lbs since starting low carb/carnivore.  I cheat on the weekends.
I seem to be a lean mass hyper-responder from what I've read about it.
67 years old now.
I chart it out like this for reference.

Did you post videos of you training some time here? Someone was lifting outside if I recall...

You're doing the DiPasquale 'Anabolic Diet' 5 days no carb, carb loading for 2 days :D

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #83 on: Today at 02:34:09 PM »
Here's my labs before and after doing keto/carnivore/low carb.
No bloodwork in 2020.
Fasting glucose was 88 last time.
Lost 25 lbs since starting low carb/carnivore.  I cheat on the weekends.
I seem to be a lean mass hyper-responder from what I've read about it.
67 years old now.
I chart it out like this for reference.

I think the lipid energy model explains the lean mass hyper responder phenotype to a degree, probably all the keto folks but there is something unique among that phenotype going on.

Ketones, namely BHB seem to have a plethora of health benefits, from neurons to gut cells (like do to butyrate activity). The only negative health wise I have seen is that there is a degree of peripheral insulin resistance that occurs, but this also occurs with substantial fasting and it may simply be a shift away from carbs to upregulating things like hormone sensitive lipase.

Only downside I notice is I seem to get a bit flat on keto and definitely look smaller.

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #84 on: Today at 02:50:25 PM »
Did you post videos of you training some time here? Someone was lifting outside if I recall...

You're doing the DiPasquale 'Anabolic Diet' 5 days no carb, carb loading for 2 days :D

No vids for me but I workout in my garage sometimes with the door open.  ;D

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Re: Glucose Taking a Beating From Weights
« Reply #85 on: Today at 04:06:07 PM »
The only negative health wise I have seen is that there is a degree of peripheral insulin resistance that occurs, but this also occurs with substantial fasting and it may simply be a shift away from carbs to upregulating things like hormone sensitive lipase.

Dr. Ben Bikman, whose research at BYU focuses on the causes and consequences of insulin resistance, says that isn't insulin resistance.  Instead, it's temporary glucose intolerance caused by a lack of pre-formed insulin in pancreatic beta cells:

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Only downside I notice is I seem to get a bit flat on keto and definitely look smaller.

This is because of the depletion of glycogen and fluids within muscles.  This too is temporary.  Once your body is fully fat adapted, glycogen stores are restored and muscles look full again.  However, full fat adaptation can take up to six months for some people, and you have to stay consistently on a keto/carnivore diet.

You also have to make sure you don't undereat, which is very easy to do eating this way for many people because protein and fat are so satiating.

And you have to make sure you don't undertrain because of a lack of energy.  You have to drink plenty of water and sodium before lifting to increase blood volume and make sure you feel energized. Feeling low energy when training on keto/carnivore is temporary too, until you are fully fat adapted.