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Re: California’s unconstitutional gerrymandering
« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2025, 02:13:30 PM »
No one is trying to parent you.  That's weird.

Not sure what you mean by "lead factory," but I get 100 percent of my protein from plant-based sources.

recent study showed plant protein powder is crazy high in lead concentrations.


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« Reply #76 on: October 27, 2025, 02:59:35 PM »
recent study showed plant protein powder is crazy high in lead concentrations.

What study?  Do you have a link?  I'd like to read it. 

Saying "plant protein powder" is pretty broad.  Was it soy, pea, rice, etc.?  I guess I can determine that from reading the study . . . .

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« Reply #77 on: October 27, 2025, 05:05:11 PM »
What study?  Do you have a link?  I'd like to read it. 

Saying "plant protein powder" is pretty broad.  Was it soy, pea, rice, etc.?  I guess I can determine that from reading the study . . . .

It was a consumer report, they tested specific brands and powders which is very cool as you can make an informed decision.

https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-levels-of-lead-a4206364640/

Larger investigation/study

https://cleanlabelproject.org/protein-study-2-0/

it would make sense that plant protein has more lead- it should have more metals but then again lots of plants have chelators in them as well so what that means for your health who knows. Whey was the lowest if I recall, which also makes sense.

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Re: California’s unconstitutional gerrymandering
« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2025, 05:33:32 PM »
What is this gay leaded protein talk ???
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« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2025, 05:51:25 PM »
What is this gay leaded protein talk ???

i get mine straight from the tap to be fair. Spermidine is good for longevity.

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« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2025, 07:23:00 PM »
i get mine straight from the tap to be fair. Spermidine is good for longevity.
Unleaded I assume?
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« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2025, 07:26:24 PM »
It was a consumer report, they tested specific brands and powders which is very cool as you can make an informed decision.

https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-levels-of-lead-a4206364640/

Larger investigation/study

https://cleanlabelproject.org/protein-study-2-0/

it would make sense that plant protein has more lead- it should have more metals but then again lots of plants have chelators in them as well so what that means for your health who knows. Whey was the lowest if I recall, which also makes sense.

Thanks.  Interesting.  I use two of those on their bad list.  So they concluded all protein powders have unacceptable levels of lead, but plant protein powders are worse.  Meh.  Not going to change what I do.  It's too late already anyway because I've using them for most of my life.  And I don't really trust what "experts" say if they don't have specific experience with bodybuilding nutrition.   

For more than two-thirds of the products we analyzed, a single serving contained more lead than CR’s food safety experts say is safe to consume in a day—some by more than 10 times.

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« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2025, 07:29:13 PM »
Thanks.  Interesting.  I use two of those on their bad list.  So they concluded all protein powders have unacceptable levels of lead, but plant protein powders are worse.  Meh.  Not going to change what I do.  It's too late already anyway because I've using them for most of my life.  And I don't really trust what "experts" say if they don't have specific experience with bodybuilding nutrition.   

For more than two-thirds of the products we analyzed, a single serving contained more lead than CR’s food safety experts say is safe to consume in a day—some by more than 10 times.
Don't care to read the article but where did they say the lead was coming from? Is it a processing issue?
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« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2025, 07:41:05 PM »
Don't care to read the article but where did they say the lead was coming from? Is it a processing issue?

They are not sure, but probably manufacturing.  An excerpt:

"Lead could enter pea protein at the manufacturing plant, when the dried peas are dehulled and ground into flour, depending on the type of machines and metals used, says Goldman. It could also be introduced during the process where the flour is mixed with water to separate the protein from the starch and fiber, if the water wasn’t tested for contamination. The final step of the process, where the protein is coagulated with food-grade acid, neutralized, and spray-dried into the powder found in many foods and supplements, also offers opportunities for contamination, depending on the materials used.

Many companies don’t disclose where they source their pea protein, making it hard to know exactly where the products we tested came from. Historically, though, much of the pea protein used in U.S. food production is imported from China, according to data from the U.S. International Trade Commission. That’s notable because while the FDA has the authority to audit foreign supplement makers, it rarely does."


But I don't place much stock what these people have to say overall.  Especially when they say stuff like this:

"The average healthy adult needs roughly 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight (0.36 grams per pound), according to federal nutrition guidelines. For a 170-pound adult, that breaks down to about 61 grams of protein, which can be achieved by eating a cup of plain Greek yogurt and 3.5 ounces of chicken breast (or 5 ounces of tempeh)."

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« Reply #84 on: October 27, 2025, 07:49:46 PM »
They are not sure, but probably manufacturing.  An excerpt:

"Lead could enter pea protein at the manufacturing plant, when the dried peas are dehulled and ground into flour, depending on the type of machines and metals used, says Goldman. It could also be introduced during the process where the flour is mixed with water to separate the protein from the starch and fiber, if the water wasn’t tested for contamination. The final step of the process, where the protein is coagulated with food-grade acid, neutralized, and spray-dried into the powder found in many foods and supplements, also offers opportunities for contamination, depending on the materials used.

Many companies don’t disclose where they source their pea protein, making it hard to know exactly where the products we tested came from. Historically, though, much of the pea protein used in U.S. food production is imported from China, according to data from the U.S. International Trade Commission. That’s notable because while the FDA has the authority to audit foreign supplement makers, it rarely does."


But I don't place much stock what these people have to say overall.  Especially when they say stuff like this:

"The average healthy adult needs roughly 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight (0.36 grams per pound), according to federal nutrition guidelines. For a 170-pound adult, that breaks down to about 61 grams of protein, which can be achieved by eating a cup of plain Greek yogurt and 3.5 ounces of chicken breast (or 5 ounces of tempeh)."
That pretty much says it all doesn't it? Also how does a cup of yogurt and 3.5oz of chicken breast = 61 grams of protein? LOL
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Re: California’s unconstitutional gerrymandering
« Reply #85 on: October 27, 2025, 08:26:21 PM »
That pretty much says it all doesn't it? Also how does a cup of yogurt and 3.5oz of chicken breast = 61 grams of protein? LOL

Two chicken breasts and greek yogurt yes, but not one breast.  If you want to look like a distance runner then follow the "federal nutrition guidelines."  lol

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« Reply #86 on: October 27, 2025, 09:27:57 PM »
No one is trying to parent you.  That's weird.

Not sure what you mean by "lead factory," but I get 100 percent of my protein from plant-based sources.

Are you vegeterian?

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« Reply #87 on: October 27, 2025, 09:58:11 PM »
Are you vegeterian?

Yep.  But I am a meat and potatoes vegetarian.  I use meat substitutes, so my diet isn't much different than a carnivore, except I use the fake stuff.  It has gotten really good the past 20 years or so.  I supplement too.  I get at least 200 grams of protein a day.  Never lost any muscle or strength.  I'm as strong today as I was as a very young man.  Second best health decision I have ever made.  The first is getting 8 hours of sleep a night. 

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« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2025, 05:26:05 AM »
That pretty much says it all doesn't it? Also how does a cup of yogurt and 3.5oz of chicken breast = 61 grams of protein? LOL

That is technically true though. If we are talking need not optimal.

There were several powders that had low lead a few had near perfect levels.

There isn't anything to believe or not believe with the study, they just tested the powders and these are the findings, the samples were tested by a reputable source and it is in line with previous studies.

What that means, who knows.

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« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2025, 03:27:56 PM »
That is technically true though. If we are talking need not optimal.

There were several powders that had low lead a few had near perfect levels.

There isn't anything to believe or not believe with the study, they just tested the powders and these are the findings, the samples were tested by a reputable source and it is in line with previous studies.

What that means, who knows.
Just curious where the contamination comes from, if they are claiming the plant or the process.
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« Reply #90 on: Today at 05:36:34 AM »
Just curious where the contamination comes from, if they are claiming the plant or the process.

Plants absorb metals from there surroundings/milieu so the soil, water and even air, so thats the most likely source but it can also happen during manufacturing. Thats the reason the whey protein had far lower levels, no real mechanism for absorption so its purely processing.