2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[Coach is Back!]

Great answer

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTkn3o7xt/

[Necrosis]

Still feeding into the bullshit I see.

The sad truth here is that trump is exactly how he appears, a conman with little intellect that has duped fools like you.

[deadz]

The sad truth here is that trump is exactly how he appears, a conman with little intellect that has duped fools like you.

Yea, Trump was able to “dupe” millions of voters and get elected twice. You are a dumb mothefucker, no doubt about that.

[Royalty]

I will definitely NOT vote for Trump in 2028, UNLESS he decides to run again. In that case, I will absolutely vote for Trump.

[ProudVirgin69]

And there were no new wars

 

What do you call our attack on Iran? 

[deadz]

What do you call our attack on Iran?

NECESSARY!!

[Grape Ape]

NECESSARY!!

C'mon man.

They only enriched uranium to 60% instead of 90 and had missiles that could hit much further than was known, but were not  trans-atlantic.

So they were no threat to us.

They would have just stopped and put the uranium away and scrapped the long range missile procurement if we just left them alone.

[Necrosis]

Yea, Trump was able to “dupe” millions of voters and get elected twice. You are a dumb mothefucker, no doubt about that.

Because you guys are morons lol.

You think the election was stolen and probably think the vaccine was a hoax.

[Necrosis]

C'mon man.

They only enriched uranium to 60% instead of 90 and had missiles that could hit much further than was known, but were not  trans-atlantic.

So they were no threat to us.

They would have just stopped and put the uranium away and scrapped the long range missile procurement if we just left them alone.

Probably shouldnt have ripped up that agreement based on a man's ego.

Imagine ripping up an agreement then telling another country what they can and can't do lol. They still have the uranium, no regime change has occurred and it looks like they will get concessions all while causing huge economic problems worldwide.

Of course you guys obliterated there nuclear capabilities last year right? that wasn't a lie was it?

[ProudVirgin69]

C'mon man.

They only enriched uranium to 60% instead of 90 and had missiles that could hit much further than was known, but were not  trans-atlantic.

So they were no threat to us.

They would have just stopped and put the uranium away and scrapped the long range missile procurement if we just left them alone.

 


Same old talking points used to start the Iraq war and we all know how that turned out.  Well, apparently not. 

[Necrosis]

Same old talking points used to start the Iraq war and we all know how that turned out.  Well, apparently not.

its the WMD's all over again, only this time they obliterated them not even a year ago but didn't, but they actually did though!

[LurkerNoMore]

Same old talking points used to start the Iraq war and we all know how that turned out.  Well, apparently not.

Hey, at least Bush followed through consistently with that war.  Unlike this scared ass fuckwaddle that keeps talking tough and then backing down over and over.  Didn't you know?  We are on a permanent extension. 

[Necrosis]

Hey, at least Bush followed through consistently with that war.  Unlike this scared ass fuckwaddle that keeps talking tough and then backing down over and over.  Didn't you know?  We are on a permanent extension.

But didn't you guys already win?

[obsidian]

We could easily take control. Problem is our government half asses these things, goes in half hearted then starts playing some dumb half ass political game. If we stuck with the mantra of Might is Right and took control things might be different. Instead we are trying to barter with terrorists.

How would the US easily take control of the Strait? The Navy wanted nothing to do with it because they don't want dead sailors and sinking ships. Trump wants to win and its got nothing to do with the government half assing anything. Israel controls both parties in the US. There's massive motivation and yet Iran controls the Strait - lol! You can stomp your feet and be mad about it but that changes nothing.

Rusting USS Gerald R. Ford - clogged toilets, mysterious fires...

[LurkerNoMore]

But didn't you guys already win?

We won.  It was beautiful.  People are saying they have never seen winning like the winning that Duhnold won. 

[obsidian]

C'mon man.

They only enriched uranium to 60% instead of 90 and had missiles that could hit much further than was known, but were not  trans-atlantic.

So they were no threat to us.

They would have just stopped and put the uranium away and scrapped the long range missile procurement if we just left them alone.

Iran was apparently 2 weeks away from making nukes and somehow never decided to make one. Seems to me Iran could have avoided all this damage to their infrastructure and lost lives if they just made nukes and tested them. Then the US would not have attacked them. They would be fools if they don't assemble nukes ASAP. Israel is just itching to send 100 nukes their way. Both Trump and Israeli leaders have claimed they wanted to send Iran back to the stone age and wipe out their civilization. That's a big motivation right there for Iran!

[GymnJuice]

Iran was apparently 2 weeks away from making nukes and somehow never decided to make one. Seems to me Iran could have avoided all this damage to their infrastructure and lost lives if they just made nukes and tested them. Then the US would not have attacked them. They would be fools if they don't assemble nukes ASAP. Israel is just itching to send 100 nukes their way. Both Trump and Israeli leaders have claimed they wanted to send Iran back to the stone age and wipe out their civilization. That's a big motivation right there for Iran!

Iran is on the 5 yard line for nukes just like we were on the 5 yard line at winning this almost-a-war.

[Grape Ape]

Same old talking points used to start the Iraq war and we all know how that turned out.  Well, apparently not.

You just used talking points to counter what you perceive as talking points.

WMD did not have the same level of proof as the enriched uranium.  This is why I asked the forum at the beginning if the 60% was truthful, or just a theory, because I wanted to establish a base to expand further conversation.

Now folks act like this, and the missiles, didn't exist, when they were previously established as fact.

[Grape Ape]

Iran was apparently 2 weeks away from making nukes and somehow never decided to make one. Seems to me Iran could have avoided all this damage to their infrastructure and lost lives if they just made nukes and tested them. Then the US would not have attacked them. They would be fools if they don't assemble nukes ASAP. Israel is just itching to send 100 nukes their way. Both Trump and Israeli leaders have claimed they wanted to send Iran back to the stone age and wipe out their civilization. That's a big motivation right there for Iran!

They ARE fools.

Iran made a very foolish decision to think they could negotiate with the US by showing 60% enriched uranium as them showing "restraint".

And you know the civilization comment was made towards the regime, not the people:

As a former SEAL that has sat in briefing rooms in theater, run ops against jihadist networks, and built a platform interviewing many sharp people in both operations and intelligence, you of all people should understand how strategic warfare actually works.

Despite all of that, you are sitting here and pushing posts like a cable news commentator with rimmed glasses on a communist news network, framing decisive pressure against the world's leading state sponsor of militant jihadist terrorism as "chaos" and "loss."

Let's cut through this selective timeline you laid out:

Trump issued a brutal, unmistakable warning over the Strait of Hormuz, the chokepoint Iran's regime was weaponizing to strangle global energy and fund its proxies.

That wasn't just some bluster for fun, it was quite literally combatant messaging 101 in asymmetric conflict against an enemy that only respects raw and credible power.

Jihadist Islamists like the IRGC, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, and their ilk don't negotiate in good faith or respond to polite diplomacy, and you absolutely know this.

They only respond to negotiations from positions of strength.

If you do not negotiate that way, they will probe weaknesses, exploit hesitation, and interpret restraint as invitations to push attacks.

History from the Beirut barracks to the USS Cole to Benghazi and to decades of proxy attacks has proven that.

You've had guests that have spoken about these things, yet you act ignorant of them now?

This apocalyptic rhetoric is the only language these people understand, and you know it.

Iran blinked because of that rhetoric, floated a ceasefire tied to reopening the strait, and the administration secured a pause to lock in gains. That is not "lighting the world on fire then calling the fire department," you two bit propagandist, that is literally the way war has always worked.

It is coercion through strength: downgrade the enemy's capacity, signal willingness to escalate decisively, then offer the off ramp on your terms.

[obsidian]

They ARE fools.

Iran made a very foolish decision to think they could negotiate with the US by showing 60% enriched uranium as them showing "restraint".

And you know the civilization comment was made towards the regime, not the people:

Ending a civilization means ending everything in it. Infrastructure, schools, hospitals, energy production, food production. These are all things that makes a civilization. You cannot separate the regime from the people. The people support the leaders in Iran. Their leaders did not bomb them and kill hundreds of school girls like the US did. The US gave Saddam chemical weapons in the 80s which was used on Iran when Iraq attacked it. 200,000 Iranians died.

I agree, the Iranians were fools not to manufacture nuclear weapons. There is no point in negotiating with any US regime. The US is the Empire of Lies. There can be no negotiations with it.

Iran's argument is they wanted to show the world they are reasonable which is why they went though the motions of negotiating with the US. But they knew it was very likely that the US would not be a good faith actor. Most nations know now you cannot deal with US and any agreement can be ripped up a few years from now.

The best deterrent will be to develop missiles that can reach the US mainland and deliver 500kt - 1 mt nukes. Iran will need about 100-200 or more. Comparable to India, Pakistan, and Israel. I am still amazed that Russia or Pakistan has not provided any. Apparently 20% of Israel's population are Russian. So Putin appears to be just as cucked as Trump when it comes to them.

[Grape Ape]

Ending a civilization means ending everything in it. Infrastructure, schools, hospitals, energy production, food production. These are all things that makes a civilization. You cannot separate the regime from the people. The people support the leaders in Iran. Their leaders did not bomb them and kill hundreds of school girls like the US did. The US gave Saddam chemical weapons in the 80s which was used on Iran when Iraq attacked it. 200,000 Iranians died.

I agree, the Iranians were fools not to manufacture nuclear weapons. There is no point in negotiating with any US regime. The US is the Empire of Lies. There can be no negotiations with it.

Iran's argument is they wanted to show the world they are reasonable which is why they went though the motions of negotiating with the US. But they knew it was very likely that the US would not be a good faith actor. Most nations know now you cannot deal with US and any agreement can be ripped up a few years from now.

The best deterrent will be to develop missiles that can reach the US mainland and deliver 500kt - 1 mt nukes. Iran will need about 100-200 or more. Comparable to India, Pakistan, and Israel. I am still amazed that Russia or Pakistan has not provided any. Apparently 20% of Israel's population are Russian. So Putin appears to be just as cucked as Trump when it comes to them.

Oh yeah, they're just the best.

 

[GymnJuice]

Great answer

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTkn3o7xt/

I agree. It's a good coherent answer to the question.

I still think we're worse off now than we were before this whole mess started. I wish Trump had listened more to what Rubio and Vance were saying behind closed doors, and less to Graham and Netanyahu.