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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2950 on: June 20, 2026, 04:47:15 AM »
I just have to quote the beginning of this wonderful article by the far right white supremacist Greg Johnson. For the wonderful saying coined by Steve Bannon before the 2016 election, which I had forgotten about.

https://www.unz.com/article/letter-to-j-d-vance/

Letter to J. D. Vance
Greg Johnson • June 15, 2026

Dear Vice President Vance,

Since this is an open letter, please indulge me as I spell out some things that you surely know but which some readers may not.

Donald Trump has done the impossible. He has created a global humanitarian and political crisis, yet he has managed to get most of the world to tune it out simply by lying about it continually. Trump has now announced that a “deal” with Iran is imminent 39 times. This is what Steve Bannon called flooding the zone with bullshit.”

The only reason to take the latest announcement seriously is that Iran and Pakistan are also speaking about it. They, at least, have some credibility   
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"Flooding the zone with shit" is a political and media strategy attributed to Steve Bannon that involves overwhelming the information ecosystem with a high volume of noise, disinformation, and controversy to disorient opponents and distract the public.  The core objective is not to persuade through facts, but to saturate the media environment so thoroughly that the public loses the ability to distinguish truth from fiction, leading to cynicism and a retreat into pre-existing beliefs   


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2951 on: June 20, 2026, 04:54:41 AM »
The real problem:

https://www.trackaipac.com/shame

I agree. This is the underlying reason behind most of our Middle East interventions. Yes, Trump is the leader and ultimately responsible for the final decision. But I imagine he consults different advisors and factions before making the call. And in my view, it’s those AIPAC sponsored politicians who aggressively push for bombing Iran, not because it serves their constituents, but because it appeases the AIPAC lobby.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2952 on: June 20, 2026, 06:39:26 AM »
The real problem:

https://www.trackaipac.com/shame

My rep is on there. I vote against him every time in the primaries, but it’s never close. The district is deep red and the old boomers see his prosthetic legs think he’s a true patriot. He’s the Dan Crenshaw of FL. He literally wore an IDF uniform at Capitol Hill and has accepted $779+K in donations tied to Israel. Bizarre and treasonous behavior.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2953 on: June 20, 2026, 07:24:45 AM »
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2954 on: June 20, 2026, 07:37:09 AM »
Geez, gas is never going to go down.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/20/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon

Iran says it’s closing Strait of Hormuz over Lebanon fighting
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2955 on: June 20, 2026, 07:46:44 AM »
Geez, gas is never going to go down.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/20/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon

Iran says it’s closing Strait of Hormuz over Lebanon fighting
Damn jews are really screwing the whole world up.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2956 on: June 20, 2026, 01:19:15 PM »
Geez, gas is never going to go down.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/20/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon

Iran says it’s closing Strait of Hormuz over Lebanon fighting

Trump totally fucked this up. Iran is doing this to further drive the wedge between him and bibi. Trump will now blame Israel for this latest closure, and rightfully so.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2957 on: June 20, 2026, 01:25:23 PM »
Trump totally fucked this up. Iran is doing this to further drive the wedge between him and bibi. Trump will now blame Israel for this latest closure, and rightfully so.

It’s the final step in the shart of the deal

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2958 on: June 20, 2026, 01:58:45 PM »
Trump totally fucked this up. Iran is doing this to further drive the wedge between him and bibi. Trump will now blame Israel for this latest closure, and rightfully so.
Smart move by Eeron.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2959 on: June 20, 2026, 03:34:16 PM »
And in another news

Gaza celebrating

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2960 on: June 20, 2026, 03:37:06 PM »
Smart move by Eeron.

LOLOLOL

you support an absolute fucking moron. Just wanted to remind you.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2961 on: June 20, 2026, 06:11:34 PM »
And in another news

Gaza celebrating


I would love to see the mainstream media play this

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2962 on: June 20, 2026, 09:35:48 PM »
And in another news

Gaza celebrating


If these videos are not AI generated then that's actually badass. Imagine getting bombed like that and still partying in the night and graduating from university.

SaharTV (Sahar Mazoz) is Jewish. He is an Israeli content creator born and raised in Israel, and he openly identifies as Jewish while advocating for Israel and the Jewish people.

He's trying to paint Palestinians in a bad light when it does the opposite. He wants them to roll over and die and not party or graduate like normal humans. He's scum.  ;D 8)

Palestinians partying while their cities look like this after Khazarians bombed them. That's awesome!






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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2963 on: June 21, 2026, 12:14:45 AM »
Palestinians partying while their cities look like this after Khazarians bombed them. That's awesome!

Remember Jews were seriously saying Gaza looked like that because Hamas had rigged their own infrastructure with explosives and set them off, Israel had nothing to do with it.

Kushner and Witkoff toured Gaza:

"It looked like a nuclear bomb had gone off,” Kushner said. “People were walking back to where their homes used to stand, pitching tents. It was heartbreaking. They have nowhere to go."

During this conflict the Jews were crying because the world did not understand how difficult it was to go into a bomb shelter. After they attacked the country that was now sending missiles at them, killing their religious leader, "why do they always attack us, we never did anything." I put up a video of an Israeli saying that on this thread. Palestinians had tents at best, which were then bombed, in designated safe zones.

The Jews claimed as this Jew does there was no starvation and famine, all the pictures we've seen have been of people with cancer or something else totally unrelated to lack of food, all pictures staged. Meanwhile they were blocking all aid for long periods of time. No medicine going in. The Palestinians might build a fucking bomb from an insulin pen so can't have that.

"Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich implied on Monday that he believes blocking humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip is “justified and moral” even if it causes two million civilians to die of hunger, but the international community won’t allow that to happen."

No shame whatsoever. AH said:

"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them."

Edit. I was reminded of this, Netanyahu at the UN general assembly just 3 weeks before Oct 7. The timing. Now the Arab states may seek new security arrangements since the US failed to protect them, normalization with Iran instead of Israel. Remains to be seen. There have been back channel comms during the war between the Gulf states and Iran and we saw Iran avoid certain countries at points during its attacks. The last days they avoided the UAE for example when everyone thought that should have been one of the main targets.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2964 on: June 21, 2026, 05:16:47 PM »
Bibi will definitely not stop at least until he's reelected.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2965 on: June 21, 2026, 05:49:49 PM »
Can we bomb isreal next?
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2966 on: June 21, 2026, 11:14:39 PM »
How is AIPAC even allowed to exist?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2967 on: June 22, 2026, 07:37:33 AM »
What do you think comes of the nuclear talks now in Switzerland, do we get them to acquiesce to our demands or do we get chumped?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2968 on: June 22, 2026, 07:40:50 AM »
What do you think comes of the nuclear talks now in Switzerland, do we get them to acquiesce to our demands or do we get chumped?
Same bullshit as the last 12 meetings.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2969 on: June 22, 2026, 08:03:07 AM »
Same bullshit as the last 12 meetings.

Iran only understands bombs.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2970 on: June 22, 2026, 09:09:45 AM »
Iran only understands bombs.
The US is running out of bombs, we have no bombs left to give. :(
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2971 on: June 22, 2026, 10:07:59 AM »
What do you think comes of the nuclear talks now in Switzerland, do we get them to acquiesce to our demands or do we get chumped?

We are negotiating from a position of weakness. We lack international backing, we failed to force a regime change, and our munitions are depleted. Frankly, we cannot enforce any agreement we sign. Our sole focus must be an uninterrupted exit. Preventing a nuclear buildup, missile strikes on Israel, or defunding Hezbollah should not be our responsibility. Let Iran's neighbors deal with it and the consequences.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2972 on: June 22, 2026, 10:51:51 AM »
The US is running out of bombs, we have no bombs left to give. :(

There's the nuclear option 8)

Iran only understands bombs.

If you mean instead accepting total capitulation and accepting their partner breaking all agreements then yes, America responding by killing them all would be the other option. I think it's really rich for some Americans to insinuate that since America signed a bad deal then America should resort to bombs. How about honoring commitments? It's also pathetic to insinuate Iran is unreasonable and can't be trusted bearing in mind everything that happened here. It's also interesting that just the other day Trump said the Iranians are very smart and great negotiators, the thing Trump sees himself as. He knows the Iranians aren't irrational and suicidal as many Americans see them as.

Trump is getting absolutely roasted by both sides of the isle so now he's immediately back to making murderous and genocidal threats to get back some of his lost credibilty as a tough man. The deal forbids threats. Trump even threatened Aragchi and Ghalibaf by saying they might not even get back to their country. That's ridiculous and not honorable but some peoplr don't care about such silly things. I fear if the war resumes because Trump fears looking weak (when in fact he's corageous) the nuclear option becomes more likely. Obviously the conventional means didn't work and the types of missiles used so far, like the Tomahawk, have almost ran out.

One thing that might force Trump to eat dirt for the time being is that the oil reserves have run out. If hostilities resume now the "bedlam" he talked about will become real. If the oil flows Iran is doing the US a favor. It's in Iran's favor too though, not denying that, but they have lots of hardliners who are opposed to this but the government is attempting anyway.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2973 on: June 22, 2026, 11:16:22 AM »
The Israel agents like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are fuming and are furious at Trump, albeit in a passive aggressive way, indirectly. Levin demands that this turning on Israel must stop! He also says if Iran had a nuke it would immediately fire it as us, "as sure as I'm alive." First of all Iran could have had a nuke a long time ago if it wanted to,  but it didn't. If Iran had wanted to destroy Israel in a suicidal act it could have done so in a couple of days with their conventional missiles. Imagine if it fired all of their arsenal at Israel all at once. Ghalibaf also said that Iran already has a nuke, it's called the Strait of Hormuz, no need for a real one. A much preferable option and not suicidal. Iranians are to a large extent business men or it wouldn't engage in these negotiations at all. It's the US that has acted irrationally by starting all this.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2974 on: June 22, 2026, 11:57:06 AM »
There's the nuclear option 8)

If you mean instead accepting total capitulation and accepting their partner breaking all agreements then yes, America responding by killing them all would be the other option. I think it's really rich for some Americans to insinuate that since America signed a bad deal then America should resort to bombs. How about honoring commitments? It's also pathetic to insinuate Iran is unreasonable and can't be trusted bearing in mind everything that happened here. It's also interesting that just the other day Trump said the Iranians are very smart and great negotiators, the thing Trump sees himself as. He knows the Iranians aren't irrational and suicidal as many Americans see them as.

Trump is getting absolutely roasted by both sides of the isle so now he's immediately back to making murderous and genocidal threats to get back some of his lost credibilty as a tough man. The deal forbids threats. Trump even threatened Aragchi and Ghalibaf by saying they might not even get back to their country. That's ridiculous and not honorable but some peoplr don't care about such silly things. I fear if the war resumes because Trump fears looking weak (when in fact he's corageous) the nuclear option becomes more likely. Obviously the conventional means didn't work and the types of missiles used so far, like the Tomahawk, have almost ran out.

One thing that might force Trump to eat dirt for the time being is that the oil reserves have run out. If hostilities resume now the "bedlam" he talked about will become real. If the oil flows Iran is doing the US a favor. It's in Iran's favor too though, not denying that, but they have lots of hardliners who are opposed to this but the government is attempting anyway.

Hey dude - until Iran gets a new government - fuck them.

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