2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[Van_Bilderass]

Hey dude - until Iran gets a new government - fuck them.

I wouldn't prefer to live under Islamist rule either. But I kind of feel their way of life and religion is up to the Iranians. A while back Trump held a speech in Saudi, probably written by Vance, saying the US will stop telling ME countries how to live and govern, they can decide as thhey themselves know best. These other coubtries like Saudi that the US has an economically beneficial relatiobship with are Islamist too and execute and torture protesters and regime critics. Not a peep from supposedly principled anti-Islamists. Furthermore Iran has other good qualities, it can keep this oppressive Zionism in check. Who wants Jewish world government, is that the ideal?

BTW if the US and Israel managed regime change in Iran and to put in a Zionist government, nothing stops there. Israel is eyeing Turkey and Egypt and Pakistan next. Where does it end? Should the US go to war with Turkey next like Israel wants? Can't have Israel fight its own wars!

[oldschoolfan]

My rep is on there. I vote against him every time in the primaries, but it’s never close. The district is deep red and the old boomers see his prosthetic legs think he’s a true patriot. He’s the Dan Crenshaw of FL. He literally wore an IDF uniform at Capitol Hill and has accepted $779+K in donations tied to Israel. Bizarre and treasonous behavior.

damm rambo he reminds me of a  weird and certain delta force commando on this forum !

[oldschoolfan]

uncle donald and his fake hair gel  boy hesgerth has allready cost us a half trillion and counting for this goofy war   they backed out of , but hey america first !!

[GymnJuice]

BTW if the US and Israel managed regime change in Iran and to put in a Zionist government, nothing stops there. Israel is eyeing Turkey and Egypt and Pakistan next. Where does it end? Should the US go to war with Turkey next like Israel wants? Can't have Israel fight its own wars!

The leaders of Israel and Turkey criticize each other publicly, but I think it is just political theater to rally their bases. I think Turkey and Israel probably cooperate more than most people realize behind the scenes. I think a lot of those Arab countries do too.

A real war between them would be highly unlikely IMO. Turkey is a NATO member. So them being in open conflict with Israel would put the US in an extremely awkward position.

[Griffith]

The leaders of Israel and Turkey criticize each other publicly, but I think it is just political theater to rally their bases. I think Turkey and Israel probably cooperate more than most people realize behind the scenes. I think a lot of those Arab countries do too.

A real war between them would be highly unlikely IMO. Turkey is a NATO member. So them being in open conflict with Israel would put the US in an extremely awkward position.

An attack on one member is considered an attack on all according to the treaty.

[Van_Bilderass]

The leaders of Israel and Turkey criticize each other publicly, but I think it is just political theater to rally their bases. I think Turkey and Israel probably cooperate more than most people realize behind the scenes. I think a lot of those Arab countries do too.

A real war between them would be highly unlikely IMO. Turkey is a NATO member. So them being in open conflict with Israel would put the US in an extremely awkward position.

Yes, Turkey sells oil to Israel and many have pointed out the hypocrisy, but OTOH the back and forth comments have been very harsh lately. War with Turkey would be a complete disaster and there are strong incentives on both sides to avoid it but my point is that Israel is almost at war with the whole world. I mean to include the social media war, LOL, which is the most important war according to Netanyahu.

The Arab Gulf nations have cooperated a lot with Israel and the US but may seek other arrangements now that the US failed in protecting them.

[Irongrip400]

Yes, Turkey sells oil to Israel and many have pointed out the hypocrisy, but OTOH the back and forth comments have been very harsh lately. War with Turkey would be a complete disaster and there are strong incentives on both sides to avoid it but my point is that Israel is almost at war with the whole world. I mean to include the social media war, LOL, which is the most important war according to Netanyahu.

The Arab Gulf nations have cooperated a lot with Israel and the US but may seek other arrangements now that the US failed in protecting them.

They already bombed Iran and Erdogan didn’t do shit. Just saber rattling on his part. He’s no Ataturk.

[Van_Bilderass]

They already bombed Iran and Erdogan didn’t do shit. Just saved rattling on his part. He’s no Ataturk.

Correct. I don't know much about Turkey and its history, but I saw Doug McGregor say Turkey would be a nightmare to start a war with, they are a martial and warlike people that would "fight to the end once a war starts," and said in his opinion their military is in the top 5 in the world. I do think Israel sees Turkey as an enemy. Erdogan is recently again calling Bibi the Hitler of our times, the butcher of Gaza and a war criminal

A small part of Turkey is also included in the Greater Israel plan and that probably doesn't please the Turks

[AbrahamG]

Correct. I don't know much about Turkey and its history, but I saw Doug McGregor say Turkey would be a nightmare to start a war with, they are a martial and warlike people that would "fight to the end once a war starts," and said in his opinion their military is in the top 5 in the world. I do think Israel sees Turkey as an enemy. Erdogan is recently again calling Bibi the Hitler of our times, the butcher of Gaza and a war criminal

A small part of Turkey is also included in the Greater Israel plan and that probably doesn't please the Turks

Hopefully the Ottoman Empire Part 2 is in the works. 

[Donny]

Erdoğan is another little Dictator
He's a Goat fucker

[Van_Bilderass]

Erdoğan is another little Dictator
He's a Goat fucker

None of the commentators I watch like him at all. Duplicitous.

More comments on the Turkey threat by Israelis. Ten thousand times worse than Iran LOL. First Israel along with the US funded the Sunni terrorists to get rid of Assad, but now they're a problem. And at the same time Trump wants Al Jolani to take care of  Hezbollah LOL.

[chaos]

Seems to be a common denominator here.

[Coach is Back!]

Van might be a bigger propagandist/conspiracy theorist than any lib rag I’ve ever read all wrapped up into one

[Irongrip400]

Van might be a bigger propagandist/conspiracy theorist than any lib rag I’ve ever read all wrapped up into one

The market did great under Obama, so it would seem a successful economy isn’t always a sign of great political policy.

How do you feel we look today regarding Iran?

[Coach is Back!]

The market did great under Obama, so it would seem a successful economy isn’t always a sign of great political policy.

How do you feel we look today regarding Iran?

Dragged out for too long. You can’t negotiate with terrorists especially ones that have chanted everyday for 47 years “Death to America” “Death to Israel”. All layers of their “leadership” are gone. IRGC is charge and I’m pretty sure everyone in the administration knows no matter what’s agreed on and signed they will never hold their end of the deal.

You can’t say Trump didn’t try to use diplomacy but regardless we should have leveled what needed to be leveled and eliminated who needed to be eliminated. Enough is enough. I rarely get pissed at Trump but this dragging out thing pissed me off. It’s frustrating. But then again like everyone else, I’m not there so we really don’t know what’s being said.

You can’t negotiate with a regime who only bases their fights on religious ideology and are willing to become martyrs for it.

[Royalty]

Dragged out for too long. You can’t negotiate with terrorists especially ones that have chanted everyday for 47 years “Death to America” “Death to Israel”. All layers of their “leadership” are gone. IRGC is charge and I’m pretty sure everyone in the administration knows no matter what’s agreed on and signed they will never hold their end of the deal.

You can’t say Trump didn’t try to use diplomacy but regardless we should have leveled what needed to be leveled and eliminated who needed to be eliminated. Enough is enough. I rarely get pissed at Trump but this dragging out thing pissed me off. It’s frustrating. But then again like everyone else, I’m not there so we really don’t know what’s being said.

You can’t negotiate with a regime who only bases their fights on religious ideology and are willing to become martyrs for it.

Let’s not forget that just prior to the war, Iran hanged one of their own Olympic Wrestlers who was only 19 years old. He was executed in public in order to send a warning to the rest of the Iranian population.

Iran is notorious for executing wrestling champions. They feel it’s the best way to keep the rest of the population in check.

[B_B_C]

Let’s not forget that just prior to the war, Iran hanged one of their own Olympic Wrestlers who was only 19 years old. He was executed in public in order to send a warning to the rest of the Iranian population.

Mr Trump attacked Iran because it uses capital punishment?

[Royalty]

Mr Trump attacked Iran because it uses capital punishment?

Hi Supreme Leader of Iran!!

[chaos]

Dragged out for too long. You can’t negotiate with terrorists especially ones that have chanted everyday for 47 years “Death to America” “Death to Israel”. All layers of their “leadership” are gone. IRGC is charge and I’m pretty sure everyone in the administration knows no matter what’s agreed on and signed they will never hold their end of the deal.

You can’t say Trump didn’t try to use diplomacy but regardless we should have leveled what needed to be leveled and eliminated who needed to be eliminated. Enough is enough. I rarely get pissed at Trump but this dragging out thing pissed me off. It’s frustrating. But then again like everyone else, I’m not there so we really don’t know what’s being said.

You can’t negotiate with a regime who only bases their fights on religious ideology and are willing to become martyrs for it.

On day 1.

[Coach is Back!]

Mr Trump attacked Iran because it uses capital punishment?

Exposed....what you're saying is that those executions are justified on innocent people. Got it. Tard

[B_B_C]

Exposed....what you're saying is that those executions are justified on innocent people. Got it. Tard

if that is what you want to believe but remember that many people (silly libturds of course) believe more than few innocent people have been executed here   but  no foreign power used that a reason to attack another country
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https://x.com/atrupar/status/2069471573044576560?s=20

Q: What will you say to allies of yours like Ted Cruz who have been critical of the Iran deal?

TRUMP: I think anybody who has been critical of it has to be educated

[Van_Bilderass]

Van might be a bigger propagandist/conspiracy theorist than any lib rag I’ve ever read all wrapped up into one

Please, if you will, tell me what is conspiratorial and false about what I'm posting now? Seems to me most of what I've speculated about has later been shown to be correct, often by Trump's own words. For example I said Trump made this deal due to the catastrophic oil reserve levels. You posted silly oil price charts. Sure enough, Trump confirmed it. BEDLAM!

Please, by all means define conservative and liberal to us all. I know you won't but would be illuminating if you did. Clearly your definitions are far from the usually accepted ones.

Dragged out for too long. You can’t negotiate with terrorists especially ones that have chanted everyday for 47 years “Death to America” “Death to Israel”. All layers of their “leadership” are gone. IRGC is charge and I’m pretty sure everyone in the administration knows no matter what’s agreed on and signed they will never hold their end of the deal.

You can’t negotiate with a regime who only bases their fights on religious ideology and are willing to become martyrs for it.

The US has lots of religious nuts as well. You are one, a Zionist Christian and these are some of the most delusional ones, with their end times theology where Trump is supposed to usher in Armageddon. So push for total war, like you do, it's what Jesus wants and will hasten the coming of the end.

Tell me again about religious extremists.


Iran has held all their promises so far. Trump broke the terms within hours by threats of genocide and murder. Vance had to placate the Iranians by telling them not to pay any mind to Trump's public outbursts. As US diplomats have done previously as well. You can never trust the US, at least under Trump but the same is true of everyone else as well historically, everyone around the world knows this. Putin and Lavrov have both said numerous times, and Lavrov in recent days again, that the Trump reneged on everything they agreed to in Anchorage. Do you think they are lying? I sure don't. The Russians call Americans "not agreement capable." Explain that. You can never trust the Russians I assume and it's them who break all agreements?

The US attacked Iran TWICE during negotiations! Trump just threatened to kill the Iranian negotiators. Spare me the retarded rhetoric about the irrational Iranians. NOW you're saying you're disappointed in Trump. Of course everyone knew you would come to this Zionist view. But you were just posting JD Vance pressers, obviously saying that the deal was great, unlike what us conspiracy theorists said (it's "bad" in the sense that the US "lost," but actually good in that, if we were to believe Trump is sincere, he's finally coming to his senses).

[Van_Bilderass]

Exposed....what you're saying is that those executions are justified on innocent people. Got it. Tard

That's not what he's saying you mental midget. Tell us again that Trump is concerned with capital punishment for innocent protesters. You think Trump should be making deals with these religious extremists? Saudi either whips or beheads homos. Saudi is an ALLY LOL, an ally who spends a lot of money in America, buys US weapons etc, so who cares right?

You are a complete fuckhead.

"Saudi Arabia imposes the death penalty for consensual same-sex sexual relations under its uncodified system of Sharia (Islamic law). Beheading with a sword is the state’s primary method of execution. While the government frequently states that capital punishment is reserved for terrorism, murder, and violent crimes, human rights organizations have documented instances where individuals were executed after being convicted of homosexual acts."

Who are you calling a Muslim lover again?

[Van_Bilderass]

Did you not get the memo advising you should not argue with the coach unless you are his intellectual equal ?

Haha, I only have an IQ of 100 if I'm lucky so it should be easy for Coach to "win" arguments on here but for some reason he's not demonstrating his considerable intellect. He's also assured us he does more "research" that any of us.
He only uses objective sources too, not liberal rags like myself and others.

[Rambone]

Iran made Trump look like a chump. The shart of the deal folks!