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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #3225 on: July 27, 2026, 02:35:29 PM »
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Iran has a stronger hold on this situation today than it did when it first kicked off.

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Iran has a stronger hold on this situation today than it did when it first kicked off.

This is correct. Trump got bad intel going into this one, thinking the regime change would cause the to people to rise up but it didn’t.

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This is correct. Trump got bad intel going into this one, thinking the regime change would cause the to people to rise up but it didn’t.

Do we know who gave him the bad intel?
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This is correct. Trump got bad intel going into this one, thinking the regime change would cause the to people to rise up but it didn’t.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-intelligence-assessment-trump-ad20c1f1168d4318af516d7b19d372e7

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A U.S. intelligence assessment completed shortly before the United States and Israel launched a war in Iran had determined that American military intervention was not likely to lead to regime change in the Islamic Republic, according to two people familiar with the finding.

The National Intelligence Council’s assessment in February concluded that neither limited airstrikes nor a larger, prolonged military campaign would be likely to result in a new government taking over in Iran, even if the current leadership was killed

What info do you have that refutes this article?
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How I see it:

Iran can never relax again, not that it ever could before. Trump cannot leave it like this even if he wanted to. Iran knows the US and Israel are committed to destroying the regime, either in the near future or at some future date. The nuclear capability also has to be destroyed.

I really want the US to go all out now and let's see what happens. He sort of bitched out now that Kaine and JD etc told him the US is out of precision missiles and can't protect it's allies. They are now letting missiles hitting "non-critical" targets fly through so as not to deplete the PAC3s further etc. Not to worry, Bibi will convince him to bomb Pickaxe mountain and do another decapitation strike on the mullahs and current leadership.

There are so many problems that come with further war. Even if the regime is destroyed the headache doesn't stop there. The US knows it now has to worry about terrorism for decades to come; they have to worry about lone wolf attacks against any US personnel anywhere in the world. And indeed the US has now warned all Americans abroad to be cautious. "Blood for Blood" the Iranians are now saying, making videos about killing Melania, Barron etc.

The US is now bitching about China and Russia helping Iran with targeting; Rubio just "warned" Lavrov LOL. But they really have no room to complain since Trump's admin has tried to assassinate Putin and are actively involved in the bombing deep inside Russia. Iran's capabilities have been utterly destroyed so many times now yet their missiles are more precise than lethal than before LOL.

"We have far more weapons than anyone in the world and far more than we need" - Trump

Ok Donnie, we totally believe you. Go all out, take the advice of Netanyahu. Flatten them and erase the bloodlines like Coach says, let's see what happens. Bomb Pickaxe and declare another win. You won't disrupt world oil supply, after all the US is totally not dependent on the SoH nor the BaM.

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Iran can never relax again, not that it ever could before. Trump cannot leave it like this even if he wanted to. Iran knows the US and Israel are committed to destroying the regime, either in the near future or at some future date. The nuclear capability also has to be destroyed.

Actually, I think Trump is one of the few people who could leave it like this and claim victory.

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https://apnews.com/article/iran-intelligence-assessment-trump-ad20c1f1168d4318af516d7b19d372e7

What info do you have that refutes this article?

The allegation is that Trump was told by everyone in the admin as well as the generals what the article says but he went with what Bibi and Mossad head David Barnea assured him: that regime change was going to happen. I think that is correct but I wasn't there obviously. There is also an allegation that JD had a contentious call with Bibi a couple of months back where JD blamed Bibi for the debacle it turned into. And we can see how Jews across the board hate JD currently; I'm sure you're seeing it? I think Bibi is now assuring Trump that just a little more bombing will finally make it happen.

The new Jew MAGA of Levin, Shapiro et al is telling Trump that further war will spill gentile blood but has to be done and it surely will be worth it in the end!

"We" as in you gentiles, not "us Jews" obviously

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Actually, I think Trump is one of the few people who could leave it like this and claim victory.

I totally agree, in theory he could if he was willing to take on all the Jews that totally own the US political machine, but at the same time realistically he can't or won't. IMHO only of course. Everyone against the war says Trump is the one guy who can claim victory in any situation and can get away with it. But it would require enormous cojones and risking everyone in the political machine turning against him.

As Ann Coulter says, "pull out now, declare victory and we will all rally behind you and totally support that."

But...

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The allegation is that Trump was told by everyone in the admin as well as the generals what the article says but he went with what Bibi and Mossad head David Barnea assured him: that regime change was going to happen. I think that is correct but I wasn't there obviously. There is also an allegation that JD had a contentious call with Bibi a couple of months back where JD blamed Bibi for the debacle it turned into. And we can see how Jews across the board hate JD currently; I'm sure you're seeing it? I think Bibi is now assuring Trump that just a little more bombing will finally make it happen.

The new Jew MAGA of Levin, Shapiro et al is telling Trump that further war will spill gentile blood but has to be done and it surely will be worth it in the end!

"We" as in you gentiles, not "us Jews" obviously

Right, Israel did present these scenarios, which Ratcliffe and Rubio dismissed as bullshit.  So, despite his own intelligence rejecting the regime change outcome, as well as his senior officials, the reason Trump attacked Iran was because he thought it would lead to regime change, as irongrip is claiming?
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Right, Israel did present these scenarios, which Ratcliffe and Rubio dismissed as bullshit.  So, despite his own intelligence rejecting the regime change outcome, as well as his senior officials, the reason Trump attacked Iran was because he thought it would lead to regime change?

I mean that's the allegation or claim at least. I don't know what Trump really thought, what do you think? What do you think he's thinking or considering now? I saw where he said he was really surprised at the Ayatollah funeral turnout, "I thought they hated the regime?!" There's been all sorts of allegations that Trump hates Netanyahu personally and he's rebuffed him and cursed him out numerous times and so on but to me it seems the Jews always get what they want in the end. It was alleged Trump initially refused to meet Bibi in connection to the Graham funeral, that at first Bibi cancelled his plans to attend as that meeting was his condition, but it happened anyway as usual.

No doubt Bibi and the rest will stress to Trump that the Iranian's have plans to kill him and his family, Melania, Barron etc to convince him to "destroy" Iran; use emotion and make it personal

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I mean that's the allegation or claim at least. I don't know what Trump really thought, what do you think? What do you think he's thinking or considering now? I saw where he said he was really surprised at the Ayatollah funeral turnout, "I thought they hated the regime?!" There's been all sorts of allegations that Trump hates Netanyahu personally and he's rebuffed him and cursed him out numerous times and so on but to me it seems the Jews always get what they want in the end. It was alleged Trump initially refused to meet Bibi in connection to the Graham funeral, that at first Bibi cancelled his plans to attend as that meeting was his condition, but it happened anyway as usual.

No doubt Bibi and the rest will stress to Trump that the Iranian's have plans to kill him and his family, Melania, Barron etc to convince him to "destroy" Iran; use emotion and make it personal

I believe he thought he was stopping Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, and the timing was good because Israel was going to hit them anyway.

I also believe we underestimated the timeframe it would take to do this appropriately, and we should have hit them much harder, especially after they attacked a ship post "deal". 

I also believe the ease of the Maduro campaign may have created some hubris that gave them increased confidence they could just do stuff like this everywhere.

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