How about those job numbers?

[Necrosis]

Hey guys!!

How about those job numbers

what do you think happened there?

Dont think there has been a job loss for a 9 month period for like 40 years or more, pretty impressive.

[IroNat]

Loss of jobs due to AI perhaps.

[chaos]

Hey guys!!

How about those job numbers

what do you think happened there?

Dont think there has been a job loss for a 9 month period for like 40 years or more, pretty impressive.

Talk to your prime minister, maybe he could tell you what he did with those jobs.

[Necrosis]

Talk to your prime minister, maybe he could tell you what he did with those jobs.

what do you think about the jobs number in the US?

[chaos]

what do you think about the jobs number in the US?

Doesn't look good does it?

[Necrosis]

Doesn't look good does it?

I concur.

What do you think the cause is?

[chaos]

I concur.

What do you think the cause is?

Hell if I know. If this shit in the middle east drags on several of the industries I deal with will get busy fast.

[Grape Ape]

I concur.

What do you think the cause is?

Here's the key sector/industry breakdown for February 2026 changes (in thousands of jobs, seasonally adjusted, based on BLS data and consistent reporting across sources):

Health care: -28,000 (largely due to strike activity, e.g., at Kaiser Permanente affecting ~30,000+ workers during the survey period; some sources note offices of physicians specifically lost ~37,000)
Manufacturing: -12,000
Information (including tech/media): -11,000 (continuing a trend of ~5,000 average monthly losses over the prior year)
Federal government: -10,000 (part of a longer decline of ~330,000 since October 2024 peak)
Construction: -11,000 (weather-sensitive, impacted by cold snap)
Transportation and warehousing: -11,000 (e.g., losses in couriers/messengers partially offset by air transport gains)
Mining and logging (including oil/gas): -2,000 (small decline)

Other major sectors (e.g., retail trade, wholesale trade, financial activities, professional/business services, leisure/hospitality, other services) showed little net change or were not highlighted as significant movers in the report.
Note that health care's loss was temporary and strike-related (workers returned in subsequent months), and some analysts viewed parts of the report as distorted by one-off events rather than broad weakness. For the full official details, refer to the BLS Employment Situation report (Table B-1 for detailed industry changes). The private sector accounted for most of the net loss (~-86,000), with government contributing the rest.

Manufacturing would be the concern, followed by tech sector, which could be AI related.

Other stuff looks temporary......we'll see.

[Humble Narcissist]

Loss of jobs due to AI perhaps.

It is only just the beginning.

[Necrosis]

Manufacturing would be the concern, followed by tech sector, which could be AI related.

Other stuff looks temporary......we'll see.

For sure, this doesn't really hint at the etiology per se. The fact that manufacturing is decreasing is counter point to the policies enacted. I also would imagine AI is going to fuck things up royally

[Grape Ape]

For sure, this doesn't really hint at the etiology per se. The fact that manufacturing is decreasing is counter point to the policies enacted. I also would imagine AI is going to fuck things up royally

Manufacturing will not come back instantly.  Promise of domestic investment takes time - stuff has to be built, repurposed, etc.

But also, this happened in Jan:

The January 2026 jobs report showed a resilient U.S. labor market, with nonfarm payrolls increasing by 130,000 and the unemployment rate dipping to 4.3%. The private sector drove growth with 172,000 new jobs, led by significant gains in health care (+82,000) and construction (+33,000), despite government employment shrinking.

I get folks want to jump on anything that points to Trump=bad, but we'll have to see where it goes.  I've said from the beginning, Trump is betting on growth from 2026 onward, so I have to see how that plays out.

But it doesn't matter, he may very well have closed the border, gotten rid of Maduro and the ayatollah, increased domestic production, etc......and they'll still criticize everyting.

NYT day two headline on the Iran strikes confirms that the national media will always portray most of what he does in a negative light.

[Necrosis]

Manufacturing will not come back instantly.  Promise of domestic investment takes time - stuff has to be built, repurposed, etc.

But also, this happened in Jan:

I get folks want to jump on anything that points to Trump=bad, but we'll have to see where it goes.  I've said from the beginning, Trump is betting on growth from 2026 onward, so I have to see how that plays out.

But it doesn't matter, he may very well have closed the border, gotten rid of Maduro and the ayatollah, increased domestic production, etc......and they'll still criticize everyting.

NYT day two headline on the Iran strikes confirms that the national media will always portray most of what he does in a negative light.

Yes it will take far longer then he has planned and thus won't happen. Why would any business operate with clearly moving goalposts,the countries highest court just ruled it was illegal for example. Manufacturing isn't coming back because its simply not cheaper.

His tariffs weren't reciprocal and certainly not an emergency in any fashion or definition of the word.

Iran is silly imo and has the potential to wreck the economy. Why are they attacking Iran? didnt they wipe out the program as they stated only a few months ago?

Whatever way we cut it, he has not been good for the economy. The argument that Biden caused inflation is a not taking into account that the world also say inflation skyrocket, if it was a singular phenomenon, sure, but there were extraneous circumstances. The recovery would be more telling then the increase since everywhere saw inflation from supply bottlenecks etc.

Do you support tariffs?

[chaos]

Yes it will take far longer then he has planned and thus won't happen. Why would any business operate with clearly moving goalposts,the countries highest court just ruled it was illegal for example. Manufacturing isn't coming back because its simply not cheaper.

His tariffs weren't reciprocal and certainly not an emergency in any fashion or definition of the word.

Iran is silly imo and has the potential to wreck the economy. Why are they attacking Iran? didnt they wipe out the program as they stated only a few months ago?

Whatever way we cut it, he has not been good for the economy. The argument that Biden caused inflation is a not taking into account that the world also say inflation skyrocket, if it was a singular phenomenon, sure, but there were extraneous circumstances. The recovery would be more telling then the increase since everywhere saw inflation from supply bottlenecks etc.

Do you support tariffs?

What are the moving goalposts for businesses?
Manufacturing is not only driven by inflation but corporate greed and large companies that have to impress their investors with record profits every quarter. Nothing to do with tariffs or who is president. Government regulations also drive the cost of manufacturing higher in the US. For example, at any time I can find material from Pakistan or India at a fraction of the cost of material from the US. Why is that?

I know we all like to sit here and bash the current president but there is a larger picture here that has impacted our country's manufacturing sector and it's the government overreach and oppressive nature mixed with greedy corporations. Trump would be better off trying to relieve some of the stricter guidelines on manufacturing than applying tariffs.

[Grape Ape]

Yes it will take far longer then he has planned and thus won't happen. Why would any business operate with clearly moving goalposts,the countries highest court just ruled it was illegal for example. Manufacturing isn't coming back because its simply not cheaper.

His tariffs weren't reciprocal and certainly not an emergency in any fashion or definition of the word.

Iran is silly imo and has the potential to wreck the economy. Why are they attacking Iran? didnt they wipe out the program as they stated only a few months ago?

Whatever way we cut it, he has not been good for the economy. The argument that Biden caused inflation is a not taking into account that the world also say inflation skyrocket, if it was a singular phenomenon, sure, but there were extraneous circumstances. The recovery would be more telling then the increase since everywhere saw inflation from supply bottlenecks etc.

Do you support tariffs?

I'm not on board with "thus it won't happen".  Fixing this issue is going to be a long process.

As for "supporting tariffs", that's a broad statement.  If they are reciprocal, sure.  If they are used as a negotiation too, sure.  If they fuck up stuff long term, no,  All I know is China has a 100-150 year plan to take over everything, and we let them get too comfortable getting their hooks in here, and getting all the production over there.  So reversing that course is going to be painful.