Justin Gatlin

[240 is Back]

what is the mph that the top guys achieve?  I think that would make more sense to the average man to really conceptualize how fast the guys move.

[flurby]

europe!europe!europe!

stfu fucking goat fucker, you dont belong to europe nor the USA.

you belong to desert, sand and camels.

[Ursus]

well they are running over 10m/s.

lets say fastest was 10m/s even tho sum stages wud be faster.
in a min they wud do 600m
in an hr 36000m

so roughly 22.5mph tho its prob at peak speed 25ish i think i saw b4 on uk athletics.

showed wat spped they reached. 100 is long. i usd to sprint and if u lok down the track u appreciate how fast these athltes r really running.

gatlin was caught and banned before. he may be caught again asafa powell is more impressive. at the commonwealth games he didnt even try at all and he was insanely fast slowed down so much at end of each race looked too easy. although the americans werent there other top nations were

[dorkeroo]

what is the mph that the top guys achieve?  I think that would make more sense to the average man to really conceptualize how fast the guys move.

You want meters per second or km/h? I don't know if I can find mph.
 Meters per second, it is said the maximum reached was by Donovan Bailey at around 12.1m/s, that translates into about 27km/h.

[disco_stu]

Imagine the times that Johnson would have put up if he had not been caught. He was so far ahead of his time!

a stupid comment indeed. how about your boys in '68?...and anyone else ''using''. i suppose Griffith Joyner and Kratchilova (E.Ger) were ahead of their time also?...gimme a break.

take some anapolan right up to a 100m olympic final and see how it helps ya....

[disco_stu]

best speeds posted by BJ was 0.83 for 10m. I believe Bailey went under 0.83, but not as low as 0.82. Lewis regularly posted 0.83 also.

Enjoy the WR while it lasts. Asafa Powell will break it again.

[disco_stu]

You want meters per second or km/h? I don't know if I can find mph.
 Meters per second, it is said the maximum reached was by Donovan Bailey at around 12.1m/s, that translates into about 27km/h.

nope ..multiply m/s by 3.6 to get km/h.

then divide by 1.6 to get mph.

i.e. 44km/hr, or 27mph.



ps i just checked the story out.....it was aided by a maximum possible wind of 2m/s. This is the legal limit allowable. So he had the best wind conditions he could want.

Generally 1 m/s wind at your back is between 0.05 and 0.08 seconds assistance depending on the athlete. A head wind is actually relatively worse.

as an example, if Justin had run a non WR at 9.8 with 1 m/s, then it could be argued that it was a superior performance to the WR 9.76 with 2m/s.

an example of how good the conditions were was that second place finisher recorded 9.84s...a PB and natinal record...and this guy is an also ran in Championships..

so please, lets keep it in perspective.

if it was 9.71 then that would be different.

[LuciusFox]

a stupid comment indeed. how about your boys in '68?...and anyone else ''using''. i suppose Griffith Joyner and Kratchilova (E.Ger) were ahead of their time also?...gimme a break.

take some anapolan right up to a 100m olympic final and see how it helps ya....

  Do you really think Ben Johnson was the only one using? Plenty have used and they were not as fast as him.

[dorkeroo]

nope ..multiply m/s by 3.6 to get km/h.

then divide by 1.6 to get mph.

i.e. 44km/hr, or 27mph.



ps i just checked the story out.....it was aided by a maximum possible wind of 2m/s. This is the legal limit allowable. So he had the best wind conditions he could want.

Generally 1 m/s wind at your back is between 0.05 and 0.08 seconds assistance depending on the athlete. A head wind is actually relatively worse.

as an example, if Justin had run a non WR at 9.8 with 1 m/s, then it could be argued that it was a superior performance to the WR 9.76 with 2m/s.

an example of how good the conditions were was that second place finisher recorded 9.84s...a PB and natinal record...and this guy is an also ran in Championships..

so please, lets keep it in perspective.

if it was 9.71 then that would be different.

I must be tired, I don't usually make mistakes like that lol thank you for the correction.

[LuciusFox]

nope ..multiply m/s by 3.6 to get km/h.

then divide by 1.6 to get mph.

i.e. 44km/hr, or 27mph.



ps i just checked the story out.....it was aided by a maximum possible wind of 2m/s. This is the legal limit allowable. So he had the best wind conditions he could want.

Generally 1 m/s wind at your back is between 0.05 and 0.08 seconds assistance depending on the athlete. A head wind is actually relatively worse.

as an example, if Justin had run a non WR at 9.8 with 1 m/s, then it could be argued that it was a superior performance to the WR 9.76 with 2m/s.

an example of how good the conditions were was that second place finisher recorded 9.84s...a PB and natinal record...and this guy is an also ran in Championships..

so please, lets keep it in perspective.

if it was 9.71 then that would be different.

  Wow, you must be a track expert

[disco_stu]

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top 20 100m all time not adjustment for wind            top 20 100m all time adjusted for wind            
                        
                     adjusted time   
1   9.76   Justin Gatlin      1   9.79   Maurice Greene   9.80   
2   9.77   Asafa Powell      2   9.82   Maurice Greene   9.81   
3   9.79   Maurice Greene      3   9.8   Maurice Greene   9.81   
4   9.8   Maurice Greene      4   9.86   Frank Fredericks   9.84   
5   9.82   Maurice Greene      5   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.84   
6   9.84   Donovan Bailey      6   9.86   Maurice Greene   9.85   
7   9.84   Bruny Surin      7   9.87   Maurice Greene   9.85   
8   9.84   Asafa Powell      8   9.84   Bruny Surin   9.85   
9   9.85   Leroy Burrell      9   9.87   Obadele Thompson   9.86   
10   9.85   Maurice Greene      10   9.76   Justin Gatlin   9.86   
11   9.85   Justin Gatlin      11   9.77   Asafa Powell   9.87   
12   9.85   Asafa Powell      12   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.87   
13   9.86   Carl Lewis      13   9.86   Maurice Greene   9.87   
14   9.86   Frank Fredericks      14   9.88   Ato Boldon   9.87   
15   9.86   Maurice Greene      15   9.94   Maurice Greene   9.88   
16   9.86   Ato Boldon      16   10.03   Viktor Bryzgin   9.88   
17   9.86   Ato Boldon      17   9.88   Maurice Greene   9.88   
18   9.86   Ato Boldon      18   9.84   Donovan Bailey   9.88   
19   9.86   Ato Boldon      19   9.87   Asafa Powell   9.88   
20   9.86   Maurice Greene      20   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.88   
                        

[disco_stu]

  Wow, you must be a track expert

i like sports..and unlike yourself, have half a brain. why the sarcasm?....are you annoyed and behind on your daily post target?

[LuciusFox]

you might like this...

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top 20 100m all time not adjustment for wind            top 20 100m all time adjusted for wind            
                        
                     adjusted time   
1   9.76   Justin Gatlin      1   9.79   Maurice Greene   9.80   
2   9.77   Asafa Powell      2   9.82   Maurice Greene   9.81   
3   9.79   Maurice Greene      3   9.8   Maurice Greene   9.81   
4   9.8   Maurice Greene      4   9.86   Frank Fredericks   9.84   
5   9.82   Maurice Greene      5   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.84   
6   9.84   Donovan Bailey      6   9.86   Maurice Greene   9.85   
7   9.84   Bruny Surin      7   9.87   Maurice Greene   9.85   
8   9.84   Asafa Powell      8   9.84   Bruny Surin   9.85   
9   9.85   Leroy Burrell      9   9.87   Obadele Thompson   9.86   
10   9.85   Maurice Greene      10   9.76   Justin Gatlin   9.86   
11   9.85   Justin Gatlin      11   9.77   Asafa Powell   9.87   
12   9.85   Asafa Powell      12   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.87   
13   9.86   Carl Lewis      13   9.86   Maurice Greene   9.87   
14   9.86   Frank Fredericks      14   9.88   Ato Boldon   9.87   
15   9.86   Maurice Greene      15   9.94   Maurice Greene   9.88   
16   9.86   Ato Boldon      16   10.03   Viktor Bryzgin   9.88   
17   9.86   Ato Boldon      17   9.88   Maurice Greene   9.88   
18   9.86   Ato Boldon      18   9.84   Donovan Bailey   9.88   
19   9.86   Ato Boldon      19   9.87   Asafa Powell   9.88   
20   9.86   Maurice Greene      20   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.88   
                        

 Maurice called himself the G.O.A.T. for good reason

[dorkeroo]

you might like this...

hope the formatting works

                        
                        
top 20 100m all time not adjustment for wind            top 20 100m all time adjusted for wind            
                        
                     adjusted time   
1   9.76   Justin Gatlin      1   9.79   Maurice Greene   9.80   
2   9.77   Asafa Powell      2   9.82   Maurice Greene   9.81   
3   9.79   Maurice Greene      3   9.8   Maurice Greene   9.81   
4   9.8   Maurice Greene      4   9.86   Frank Fredericks   9.84   
5   9.82   Maurice Greene      5   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.84   
6   9.84   Donovan Bailey      6   9.86   Maurice Greene   9.85   
7   9.84   Bruny Surin      7   9.87   Maurice Greene   9.85   
8   9.84   Asafa Powell      8   9.84   Bruny Surin   9.85   
9   9.85   Leroy Burrell      9   9.87   Obadele Thompson   9.86   
10   9.85   Maurice Greene      10   9.76   Justin Gatlin   9.86   
11   9.85   Justin Gatlin      11   9.77   Asafa Powell   9.87   
12   9.85   Asafa Powell      12   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.87   
13   9.86   Carl Lewis      13   9.86   Maurice Greene   9.87   
14   9.86   Frank Fredericks      14   9.88   Ato Boldon   9.87   
15   9.86   Maurice Greene      15   9.94   Maurice Greene   9.88   
16   9.86   Ato Boldon      16   10.03   Viktor Bryzgin   9.88   
17   9.86   Ato Boldon      17   9.88   Maurice Greene   9.88   
18   9.86   Ato Boldon      18   9.84   Donovan Bailey   9.88   
19   9.86   Ato Boldon      19   9.87   Asafa Powell   9.88   
20   9.86   Maurice Greene      20   9.86   Ato Boldon   9.88   
                        

Any idea how accurate this is? I am not doubting you personally, but, that seems a little too neat a fit for something like this. I mean it isn't like they are running rectangles. Humans have funny shapes and I just wonder how accurate this is.

[LuciusFox]

i like sports..and unlike yourself, have half a brain. why the sarcasm?....are you annoyed and behind on your daily post target?

 You're right, I don't have half a brain, I have a whole brain

[disco_stu]

Any idea how accurate this is? I am not doubting you personally, but, that seems a little too neat a fit for something like this. I mean it isn't like they are running rectangles. Humans have funny shapes and I just wonder how accurate this is.

there is a website out there that did significant studies into the subject. you are correct, different body shapes, angles and so forth...as well as the fact that the wind fluctuates in both strength and angle. That is why they settled at a legal limit.

Still, even with a legal limit, some athletes benefit more than others...but something has to be decided, otherwise all records are moot.

the general acceptance is that 0.06s/m/s of wind is the figure.

it's interesting nonetheless.

[pumpster]

Johnson was almost 20 years ahead of where they are now, and there's no reason to assume that these guys aren't on something as well; the Americans are better at masking it. Johnson probably would've been around 9.75 if he hadn't raised his hand towards the end of the Olympics final, and baring injury, might've gotten to the low 9.7s.

Speed Trap's an excellent book that predates by over a decade much of the in-depth drug protocol detailed recently in Juiced. It includes some of the info that came out in the Canadian inquiry of the late 80s. It can be found on amazon.ca from time to time. Francis was recently involved with training American sprinters Montgomery & Jones.

Gatlin's connection with Balco is his coach, who was responsible for the scandal by bringing a syringe with a then-unknown steroid to the authorities. That coach's athletes have had various drug-related infractions over the years and it looks like he incriminated Balco as payback for something that happened, not because he has higher moral standards.

It's estimated that the .01 of a second that he took off the existing record comes out to about 4".

[Tre]

Didn't he attend college at the University of Tennessee?  Seems like I remember that name, I'm about 1/2 hr from the campus.

Yes, he was on scholarship at UT, but he came out early to turn pro.  

When I saw him at NCAAs a few years back, he was the fastest collegian I'd ever seen on a track.  He was a tall, lanky lightweight kid and ran like a gazelle.  At USATF Nationals a few years later, he'd put on quite a few pounds and although not huge like Green and Drummond, he had definitely become more of a power sprinter.

Congrats to him on this new world record. 

[LuciusFox]

Yes, he was on scholarship at UT, but he came out early to turn pro.  

When I saw him at NCAAs a few years back, he was the fastest collegian I'd ever seen on a track.  He was a tall, lanky lightweight kid and ran like a gazelle.  At USATF Nationals a few years later, he'd put on quite a few pounds and although not huge like Green and Drummond, he had definitely become more of a power sprinter.

Congrats to him on this new world record. 

 How long do you think it will last?

[ironneck]

stfu fucking goat fucker, you dont belong to europe nor the USA.

you belong to desert, sand and camels.

what the fuck are you talkin you fucking furby
i was born in germany and by the way turkey also belongs to europe

[Hedgehog]

Well that is great for the US.  Until they do a drug test and they find roids.  Then it will be another black eye for us.

Why do you think the drug test will be found positive?

YIP
Zack

[Scimowser]

   It was amazing the year Donovan Bailey won! It was estimated that he reached the highest peak speed of any Olympic athlete ever!

i watched him equal the record he set after pulling up 15metres from the end with a hamstring pull. He would have shattered the record had he finished properly and it would still be standing today

[ether]

   It was amazing the year Donovan Bailey won! It was estimated that he reached the highest peak speed of any Olympic athlete ever!

Synthol

[LuciusFox]

i watched him equal the record he set after pulling up 15metres from the end with a hamstring pull. He would have shattered the record had he finished properly and it would still be standing today

  It's always a shame when someone gets hurt during a great race! I wonder if he was approaching his physical limit when it happened. Remember his 150m race with Michael Johnson?

[pumpster]

Of course in sprints they're virtually always at their physical limit, thus a high likelihood of injuries like that.