Author Topic: The Maryland Muscle Machine on Ronnie Coleman (Read 25584 times)

Hulkster · « **Reply #75 on:** May 12, 2006, 02:54:10 PM »

this thread is retarded. How many more retarded shots will ND take?

Who's next ND? Jocelyn Pelletier has better biceps that Ronnie?

Kevin was flat out wrong saying he should have won in 2000. He had no back compared to Ronnie, no biceps compared to Ronnie, a worse chest, worse hams, glutes etc even though Ronnie was off.

check out the physique:

Ronnie was off, but easily won fairly. check out the most muscular at the end. And the back. And the quads...

IF kevin was in his 1992 form, then maybe he would have an arument.

But kevin in 2000 was SMOOTH SMOOTH SMOOTH. his legs were a shell of their former glory.

Here are a few more reasons why Kevin did not deserve to win in 2000:

sorry, but Ronnie looked like he was babysitting Kevin in 2000.

ps that ridiculous shot ND posted of Ronnie hardly even flexing in the back double bi next to kevin is laughable.

then again, ND is dumb enough to probably argue that Kevin had a better back

In 2002 Ronnie was way off, and Kevin has more of a valid argument.

But saying he should have beaten Ronnie in 2000 is nothing more than him being a sore loser.

totally off base.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #76 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:41:18 PM »

I didn't take the shot , I just agree with it !! here is Peter McGoughs assesment of 2000 Kevin

" Kevin Levrone ( 243 lbs ) For the last several years , Levrone has alternated between being big ( around 250lbs ) but not supercut and more streamlined ( around 235lbs ) but not full. At thos event , he produces an outstanding blend of size and condition. His back is wide, thick and detailed. His glutes are striated in a manner we haven't seen since his runner-up spot at the 92 Olympia, and his serratusnis in the Shawn Ray mold. Kick in the best delts and tris in bodybuilding and Levrone is loaded for bear. The ONLY real drawback is flattish front thighs. "

So Peter McGough directly contradicts your assesment that Kevin was " SMOOTH SMOOTH SMOOTH " and he was at the event , I feel Kevin was good enough to beat a less than stella Ronnie who was 264lbs and holding a ton of water and his quads were smooth as a beachball , but most of all Ronnie should have lost for his gut , like I've said since day one thats not what bodybuilding is about , honestly Hulkster , Kev was basically stating what a lot of people were feeling .

Hulkster · « **Reply #77 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:45:22 PM »

Peter McGough also criticized Ronnie Coleman in 2003 when the rest of the entire bodybuilding world was in awe of his physique.

So that tells you how credible his opinion is.

He has always been biased against Ronnie just like you and suckmyasshole are.

kicker · « **Reply #78 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:46:40 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on May 12, 2006, 11:53:58 AM

Yes, Kevin has better abs....everything else is Big Ron

Kev has him on delts and tri's.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #79 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:55:35 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on May 12, 2006, 04:41:18 PM

I didn't take the shot , I just agree with it !! here is Peter McGoughs assesment of 2000 Kevin

" Kevin Levrone ( 243 lbs ) For the last several years , Levrone has alternated between being big ( around 250lbs ) but not supercut and more streamlined ( around 235lbs ) but not full. At thos event , he produces an outstanding blend of size and condition. His back is wide, thick and detailed. His glutes are striated in a manner we haven't seen since his runner-up spot at the 92 Olympia, and his serratusnis in the Shawn Ray mold. Kick in the best delts and tris in bodybuilding and Levrone is loaded for bear. The ONLY real drawback is flattish front thighs. "

So Peter McGough directly contradicts your assesment that Kevin was " SMOOTH SMOOTH SMOOTH " and he was at the event , I feel Kevin was good enough to beat a less than stella Ronnie who was 264lbs and holding a ton of water and his quads were smooth as a beachball , but most of all Ronnie should have lost for his gut , like I've said since day one thats not what bodybuilding is about , honestly Hulkster , Kev was basically stating what a lot of people were feeling .

Where does McGough say that Kevin should have won?

Hulkster · « **Reply #80 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:56:27 PM »

Quote from: kicker on May 12, 2006, 04:46:40 PM

Kev has him on delts and tri's.

abs, delts and tris are not enough to win a Mr. Olympia.

You need mandatory poses:

Most Muscular: Coleman easily (see the clip)
Front double bi: see above
Back double bi: see above
Rear lat spread: see above
Front lat spread: see above
Side Tri: Kevin
Side Chest: Kevin
Ab and thigh: Kevin

Easy win for Ronnie 5 to 3 in 2000.

ND, I can understand you agreeing with 2002, but why 2000? Kevin's back looked like a toddler's back compared to Ronnie and that is a HUGE disadvantage going into a contest.

ps if you watch the clip you will note that Ronnie's quads were probably MORE CUT than kevin's were in 2000. Levrone lost his sliced thighs in the late 90's.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #81 on:** May 12, 2006, 04:57:31 PM »

Quote from: kicker on May 12, 2006, 04:46:40 PM

Kev has him on delts and tri's.

where? these pictures tell a different story than your comment

LuciusFox · « **Reply #82 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:00:33 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on May 12, 2006, 04:57:31 PM

where? these pictures tell a different story than your comment

I think Ronnie's delts are better. More separation and detail.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #83 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:02:27 PM »

Just to make sure that I understand!
Levrone trains for a few months out of the year and expects to beat one of the best ever? LOL
Here is an idea, why not train for the full year then come back and we'll talk.

ND makes a point that Kevin was competitive but not the winner. He has 1 or 2 parts better Ronnie, how many does Ronnie have over him. Why don't you look at the big picture?

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #84 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:05:06 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on May 12, 2006, 04:57:31 PM

where? these pictures tell a different story than your comment

Even Ronnie's waist is narrower than K-Lo's in that shot with them and Flex

Hulkster · « **Reply #85 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:05:35 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 05:00:33 PM

I think Ronnie's delts are better. More separation and detail.

ronnie in good shape has delts that are better than Levrone's ever were (WAY more seperation, better shape - see the Coleman delt thread).

However, in 2000, Ronnie was holding some water, so the advantage is not as great.

Kevin of course, has him on triceps.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #86 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:06:54 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on May 12, 2006, 04:45:22 PM

Peter McGough also criticized Ronnie Coleman in 2003 when the rest of the entire bodybuilding world was in awe of his physique.

So that tells you how credible his opinion is.

He has always been biased against Ronnie just like you and suckmyasshole are.

Oh please thats exactly why I think so highly of Peter McGough , while everyone was kissing Ronnie's ass , Peter has the balls to say what a lot of people are thinking and boy are you sick of being proved wrong? Peter said the best phsyique he ever seen was 2001 Arnold Classic Ronnie and he is biased ? you're a jackass dude , your blind devotion is sad and Peter McGough has fogotten more about bodybuilding than you and Ronnie ever learned .

LuciusFox · « **Reply #87 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:07:34 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on May 12, 2006, 05:05:35 PM

ronnie in good shape has delts that are better than Levrone's ever were (WAY more seperation, better shape - see the Coleman delt thread).

However, in 2000, Ronnie was holding some water, so the advantage is not as great.

Kevin of course, has him on triceps.

I'll give Kevin triceps.

thisiskeith12 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:10:20 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 05:07:34 PM

I'll give Kevin triceps.

What about shoulders?

flurby · « **Reply #89 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:12:00 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on May 12, 2006, 02:54:10 PM

this thread is retarded.

No,there are no retarded threads, only retarded people who start em.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #90 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:12:32 PM »

Quote from: thisiskeith12 on May 12, 2006, 05:10:20 PM

What about shoulders?

Nope!

thisiskeith12 · « **Reply #91 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:13:07 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 05:12:32 PM

Nope!

Aw, Kevin is known more for having shoulders!

Hulkster · « **Reply #92 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:14:44 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on May 12, 2006, 05:06:54 PM

Oh please thats exactly why I think so highly of Peter McGough , while everyone was kissing Ronnie's ass , Peter has the balls to say what a lot of people are thinking and boy are you sick of being proved wrong? Peter said the best phsyique he ever seen was 2001 Arnold Classic Ronnie and he is biased ? you're a jackass dude , your blind devotion is sad and Peter McGough has fogotten more about bodybuilding than you and Ronnie ever learned .

When did Peter say 2001 Ronnie was the best he has ever seen?

He said that 2001 Ronnie was the best that Ronnie's ever been, not the best he has ever seen, there is a big difference (Flex 2003 Olympia coverage).

he took all kinds of shots at Ronnie throughout that entire issue.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #93 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:17:05 PM »

Quote from: thisiskeith12 on May 12, 2006, 05:13:07 PM

Aw, Kevin is known more for having shoulders!

Escilene

candidate2025 · « **Reply #94 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:18:08 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on May 12, 2006, 11:58:49 AM

Another Coleman fan who equates quantity with quality , Ronnie was bigger but these are the same people who argue Shawn Ray should've beat Yates

NarcissisticDeity your a fuckih nidiot. not only is ronnie bigger than levrone, but has a bigger taper and more pronounced x frame. plus, his muscle quality+seperation is unmatched. do i even have to go into how much better conditioned ron was???

compare their guts you fuckin moron.

Hulkster · « **Reply #95 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:18:29 PM »

Quote from: thisiskeith12 on May 12, 2006, 05:13:07 PM

Aw, Kevin is known more for having shoulders!

that's only because the rest of ronnie was so good people forgot about his shoulders!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #96 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:22:27 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on May 12, 2006, 05:14:44 PM

When did Peter say 2001 Ronnie was the best he has ever seen?

He said that 2001 Ronnie was the best that Ronnie's ever been, not the best he has ever seen, there is a big difference (Flex 2003 Olympia coverage).

he took all kinds of shots at Ronnie throughout that entire issue.

On Ironage ! and Ronnie 2003 sucked period , the sad part is most of you feel thats is his best ever !!

Hulkster · « **Reply #97 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:26:04 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on May 12, 2006, 05:22:27 PM

On Ironage ! and Ronnie 2003 sucked period , the sad part is most of you feel thats is his best ever !!

LOL - you love dorian 93 but think ronnie 2003 sucked. get some consistency.

do you fuck both men and women interchangably too?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #98 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:27:36 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on May 12, 2006, 05:22:27 PM

On Ironage ! and Ronnie 2003 sucked period , the sad part is most of you feel thats is his best ever !!

Wow. You really are blind

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #99 on:** May 12, 2006, 05:37:35 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on May 12, 2006, 05:26:04 PM

LOL - you love dorian 93 but think ronnie 2003 sucked. get some consistency.

do you fuck both men and women interchangably too?

Can't stick to the topic at hand? can you , no my name isn't Zach_G I only like women

and from a purebodybuilding standpoint 2003 Coleman is a joke a complete joke and I was boggling my mind in 1993 how Yates with just a wide waist to beat Flex Wheeler , nevermind 2003 Coleman and I do have consistancy I wanted Flex to beat Yates and strictly in a Coleman vs Yates debate I say Dorian is the lesser of the two evils and I would choose him over Ronnie any day of the week .